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David Raya
Indeed. Complete laser precision and better than ever.His passing is absolutely ridiculous. ?
PING!
There goes another one.
An absolute pleasure to witness.
Indeed. Complete laser precision and better than ever.His passing is absolutely ridiculous. ?
Incredible!!Just rewatched the game on Sky. That ball to Rico reminded me of Neil Smillie googly against Portsmouth back in the day ?
Even their Manager Mowbray didn‘t rate him. He once said of David ‘ He thinks he can play in the Premiershup… we’ll see!’Late in the game, drawing 0-0 to Spurs, most teams in our position would have a mindset in which their goalkeepers are encouraged to play it safe, hold onto the ball and aim to retain possession to see the game out.
Instead our players continue to take calculated risks in these scenarios and it pays off, the result nearly a late winner here and there have been several other late goals this season of significance because we are brave and carry on believing in our abilities until the final whistle. Takes a bold coach and a strong mentality within the group to do that.
But mentality is just one part of it. To pull off a quick volleyed ball forward like that with the perfect amount of backspin to reach Rico in his stride before the Spurs defender gets there is ridiculous and requires serious ability. I used to believe that Szczesney would never be beaten as “best ever Brentford goalkeeper” but Raya maybe edges it.
To think, some Blackburn fans were not overly disappointed to lose him, and in particular some believed distribution was a weak point!
I think the problem with Spurs is that too many of their players are not good enough for the top 4, nothing to do with Conte. If he is still there in the close season and he is backed by Levy, we will see a big clear out of players who have not been doing it for some time, and 4 or 5 new Conte signings. Similar problem at Man Utd x5.Whatever the outcome of those kicks, it's a constant reminder that, from our own penalty box in a few seconds, we can still get in behind the full backs, so defenders have to get back or stay back to defend their final third. Likewise, I think it's always a good idea to take a few long-range shots early on so a 'keeper is always unsure whether to come to the edge of his box or not.
I think Spurs' issue is that Conte has got them playing in a very predictable way.
There's that, too!I think the problem with Spurs is that too many of their players are not good enough for the top 4, nothing to do with Conte. If he is still there in the close season and he is backed by Levy, we will see a big clear out of players who have not been doing it for some time, and 4 or 5 new Conte signings. Similar problem at Man Utd x5.
He rarely makes mistakes these days. I think he learned from the mistakes he made before, fixed them and was supported by his team mates and manager. He’s probably better with the ball at his feet than the vast majority of Bees outfield players pre-Benham era.True and dropped after the Hull and Stoke mistakes, he’ll make others but save many more whilst regularly beating the press with a pass that makes you moist.
The curve and spin on the ball ???
From another angle:
The curve and spin on the ball ???
From another angle:
I never think it's entirely fair to slap people with the 'hindsight stick'.What say you now Mr Mowbray ?
Bochum apparently couldn’t believe we were willing to pay as much as 500k for Vitaly! Blades fans still think they did us over with Egan and O’Connell and get particularly irate when none of us agreed even after they were the core of their team that got to the PL and had a great first season.I never think it's entirely fair to slap people with the 'hindsight stick'.
Maybe at Blackburn under Mowbray and their coaching setup, he wouldn't have made it to the Premiership or been good enough to.
But under our management and coaching setup it's an entirely different matter. We obviously saw things in Raya, Blackburn didn't see.
I remember seeing in a video interview with Janelt a while ago, giving the reasons for why he joined. He explained the Brentford presentation to him and it wasn't so much the areas that he did well, but the areas where Brentford felt he could improve and would work on with him. No doubt the same was applied to Raya.
If he stands in the middle of the goal he'd be unsighted on both sides, as the wall would be blocking his view of the wall. The wall, plus distance from goal, often means a FK has to be top bins to have the best chance of going, so it's all percentages. He's got a better chance by being slightly off centre, having sight of the ball being struck and then being able to dive across if required.I still don't like his positioning at free kicks behind a wall of defenders. Standing in the middle of the goal would give him a chance of saving a shot over the wall but standing to one side of the goal and relying on the wall to cover the other side is asking for trouble. ( A certain Leicester player for example ). And why doesn't he wear a hat at the East Stand end ???
If a keeper isn’t going to take advantage of a wall why bother with more than a single player in the direct line of the free kick and have the rest marking? Getting caught out by very low probability strikes is by definition a low risk approach.If he stands in the middle of the goal he'd be unsighted on both sides, as the wall would be blocking his view of the wall. The wall, plus distance from goal, often means a FK has to be top bins to have the best chance of going, so it's all percentages. He's got a better chance by being slightly off centre, having sight of the ball being struck and then being able to dive across if required.
I suspect it allows his starting position to consider any sideways movement or cross? All I know is the wall is there to help cover as much of the goal as possible and make it harder to hit those areas where a goal is more likely ?If a keeper isn’t going to take advantage of a wall why bother with more than a single player in the direct line of the free kick and have the rest marking? Getting caught out by very low probability strikes is by definition a low risk approach.
Yeah i was always under the assumption that the correct move is to let the wall mostly handle one side and the keeper takes the other. That also allows the keeper to only have to move in one direction, so it's more about determining how far they have to go to make the save as opposed to having to also decide which way to go.I suspect it allows his starting position to consider any sideways movement or cross? All I know is the wall is there to help cover as much of the goal as possible and make it harder to hit those areas where a goal is more likely ?![]()
A sombrero perhaps?I still don't like his positioning at free kicks behind a wall of defenders. Standing in the middle of the goal would give him a chance of saving a shot over the wall but standing to one side of the goal and relying on the wall to cover the other side is asking for trouble. ( A certain Leicester player for example ). And why doesn't he wear a hat at the East Stand end ???
Thought Monday was probably the worst distribution I've seen from him. Not sure he found one of ours all night. He's a class act but Monday was not his best.Was interesting to watch and compare David Raya with De Gea on Monday night - my conclusion was despite De Gea begin an excellent shot stopper our own Spanish Dave was light years ahead in terms of modern day, comfortable on the ball, sweeper keeper. Really hope Man Utd's new manager wasn't watching thinking I need one of those![]()
I don't remember thinking it was particularly bad on Monday tbh and he looked so much more comfortable with the ball at his feet than De Gea did - especially under pressure.Thought Monday was probably the worst distribution I've seen from him. Not sure he found one of ours all night. He's a class act but Monday was not his best.
Yes agree, not his usual high standards on distribution.Thought Monday was probably the worst distribution I've seen from him. Not sure he found one of ours all night. He's a class act but Monday was not his best.
A couple went AWOL on Monday for sure but he was generally so much more assured than DeGea who looked like a cat on a hot tin roof everytime his defenders passed back to him.Thought Monday was probably the worst distribution I've seen from him. Not sure he found one of ours all night. He's a class act but Monday was not his best.
No argument from me. Think Raya is outstanding. Just for me, along with a few others, not quite on top of their game.A couple went AWOL on Monday for sure but he was generally so much more assured than DeGea who looked like a cat on a hot tin roof everytime his defenders passed back to him.
There are a number of players who are well known for their skill of the aerial dip over the wall. We know who they are. We have probably the best in Christian Eriksen. How about moving the wall to the goal line with David Raya out side the six yard box.....Oh someone already thought of it...... Still worth seeing if Eriksen can score in training.
I saw this on Twitter and although Raya’s distribution wasn’t great by his standards on Monday, watching this does make you appreciate how good he is with the ball at his feet and how vital his passing is to starting the attack.
Didn’t see the game but he looked a bit ‘quiffed’ in that clip. Had he forgotten his brylcreem?If that was designed as a critique of DdG it pretty much missed the target as the majority of those back passes put him under unnecessary pressure, and of the others his team mates were man marked for the outlet ball.
The OP doesn't let a lack of evidence ruin a narrative though.
Yep.How about that “air kick” in the 2nd half, felt sure Var would say pen but obviously no contact.
Never a pen.How about that “air kick” in the 2nd half, felt sure Var would say pen but obviously no contact.
Kettering Bee was in front of me. ?Never a pen.
Lucky you had a calming influence next to you ?
He seemed to underestimate just how rapid Armstrong isHe nearly got caught a couple times today but once again showed what a great keeper he really is!