Farewell

[Nigel Brooks]

Back in April 2005 I had a wonderful cathartic moment and chose neither to renew my BU membership nor take any active interest in the off-field ‘shenanigans.

I became an apparatchik simply following (and sometimes even enjoying following) Brentford. The constant lurching from crisis to crisis, the overt incompetence, the hidden agenda and the constant failure to deliver on promises made were no longer of any concern to me.

I still retained an interest, from a combination of morbid curiosity and as a source of amusement in the postings and musings on the GPG. There were, of course, the keyboard warriors (I count myself guilty, on occasion, in this regard) but some wonderfully erudite and witty posts, many from those whose contributions could and should have made a real difference if only they had been acknowledged. There was always a whinge factor but the generally positive and constructive balance meant that there was a lack of constancy in the negativity and that the GPG was still, at the least, an entertainment.

It is sad then to look at the GPG today. Little more than an organ for constant and incessant whining about every minute facet of life the universe and everything (apologies Douglas Adams) with only the occasional, and you have to search hard, insightful comment or news snippet . Even the banter has taken a down-turn, what was once an entertainment is now a chore.

So time to move on. It was fun sharing a laugh, expounding club-saving ideologies, theorising over “what, who and when”. It seems so recent.

That’s it then, my last post, I wish it could be more uplifting, must be the 'GPG effect'. The PMs are turned off, the profile edited.

Farewell.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

I don't know Nigel Brooks at all other than what he posts on here. I have always found him to be a perfectly pleasant, reasonable person always ready to offer help to anyone who asks.

The GPG is reflecting the mood of supporters at the moment whch I guess is inevitable. Nigel's right - it doesn't make for happy reading but hey, things change and I hope Nigel feels able to re-think and add his point of view when he sees fit.

If not, good luck Nigel.

 

[Mad Bee]

I don't know Nigel Brooks at all other than what he posts on here. I have always found him to be a perfectly pleasant, reasonable person always ready to offer help to anyone who asks.

The GPG is reflecting the mood of supporters at the moment whch I guess is inevitable. Nigel's right - it doesn't make for happy reading but hey, things change and I hope Nigel feels able to re-think and add his point of view when he sees fit.

If not, good luck Nigel.

All the best Nigel.

 

[shaggy]

...The GPG is reflecting the mood of supporters at the moment whch I guess is inevitable. ....

The "cesspit of vitriol" has had this dimension for a while. How long do you think the "mood of the supporters at the moment" has been like this? When was it not like this?

 

[Brain-dead Bee]

He probsbly won't see this, but good luck Nigel - normally one of the more balanced contributors - and another old f**t who remember old Hanwell etc

There has been a worsening of the tone of the GPG of late - perhaps the cumulative effect of so many disappointments in recent years. Certainly Leroy is getting the "get out" messages quicker than Wally did, but when every light at the end of the tunnel turns out to be an oncoming train it's hard to be too positive

 

[rebus]

The "cesspit of vitriol" has had this dimension for a while. How long do you think the "mood of the supporters at the moment" has been like this? When was it not like this?

When we were only fed things via the chron. The internet has opened up a whole new level of scrutiny.

 

[Stanley]

He'll be back...they always are..

If he really felt like that about the GPG you wouldn't even bother to post an "obituary"

 

[Paulo Bee]

Back in April 2005 I had a wonderful cathartic moment and chose neither to renew my BU membership nor take any active interest in the off-field ‘shenanigans.

I became an apparatchik simply following (and sometimes even enjoying following) Brentford. The constant lurching from crisis to crisis, the overt incompetence, the hidden agenda and the constant failure to deliver on promises made were no longer of any concern to me.

I still retained an interest, from a combination of morbid curiosity and as a source of amusement in the postings and musings on the GPG. There were, of course, the keyboard warriors (I count myself guilty, on occasion, in this regard) but some wonderfully erudite and witty posts, many from those whose contributions could and should have made a real difference if only they had been acknowledged. There was always a whinge factor but the generally positive and constructive balance meant that there was a lack of constancy in the negativity and that the GPG was still, at the least, an entertainment.

It is sad then to look at the GPG today. Little more than an organ for constant and incessant whining about every minute facet of life the universe and everything (apologies Douglas Adams) with only the occasional, and you have to search hard, insightful comment or news snippet . Even the banter has taken a down-turn, what was once an entertainment is now a chore.

So time to move on. It was fun sharing a laugh, expounding club-saving ideologies, theorising over “what, who and when”. It seems so recent.

That’s it then, my last post, I wish it could be more uplifting, must be the 'GPG effect'. The PMs are turned off, the profile edited.

Farewell.

Anyone think Nigel's been told off for spending too much time on "messageboards" at work?

 

[shaggy]

When we were only fed things via the chron. The internet has opened up a whole new level of scrutiny.

Yeah, but thats been for the last... decade? (Dunno, you'll probably be able to tell me when the Red & White Taverna first started on InsideTheWeb)

 

[The H]

yes, but it was only well reasoned people on then.... now any old **** can get a PC for £400

 

[SpiderBee]

Voyeurs

I can't help thinking he'll be having a sneaky peeky at this thread however.
There are many times that I have posted on here to see the kneejerk reaction of GPGers.
Of course, it is much easier to be negative on here but, in truth, there isn't too much to be positive about at the moment.
Unlike many Bees fans, I don't get to many games now but I always want to know all that is happening at GP. The official site is not there to be negative so this is the place to get the real feel at GP.
Contrast the mood with a year ago and, like life in general, these things go in cycles.
The only positive thing recently is the Ealing Road roof.
I look forward to seeing it!

 

[Simon C]

yes, but it was only well reasoned people on then.... now any old **** can get a PC for £400

Or logon down the local library and spam the GPG during half term.

 

[rebus]

Yeah, but thats been for the last... decade? (Dunno, you'll probably be able to tell me when the Red & White Taverna first started on InsideTheWeb)

January 1998 is when it started. I don't detect a different tone, but more people saying the same things. This is natural due to the higher percentage of people now online.

We have further access to information now that the majority shareholding is owned by Bees United as I'm sure a few tit bits you hear down at The Griffin would not be released if BFC were privately owned.

 

[Banana]

January 1998 is when it started.

1997 I believe

 

[Luton Bee]

I don't feel the tone of the board (or indeed the posters) has changed much. What does seem to have gone is the debating. Topics now just seem to end up in name calling and or shouting the same point over and over.

 

[Jimbee]

I agree with what Nigel says to an extent and I now rarely bother with threads relating to off the field matters at the Club.

However, I find posts like these very self-indulgent and am not sure what the hanky-waving, tearful 'farewell' (though more likely an 'au revoir') is meant to achieve.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

I don't feel the tone of the board (or indeed the posters) has changed much. What does seem to have gone is the debating. Topics now just seem to end up in name calling and or shouting the same point over and over.

No they don't, you ****.

 

[Dangerous]

It is all :banana: fault.

 

[Bigbee]

Its sad to see a fellow Hanwellen leave the GPG.Now I guess Nigel can give more time to the organisation,which ironically was concieved too late to help him self


http://www.gingerkids.org/index.html

 

[Top Cat]

I've always found Nigel to be a true ****.

(Why won't it let me spell **** ??)

I'm sure once his period of denial is over he'll come back to the fun-factory and suffer with the rest of us.

 

[Ashford Bees]

Yeah, but thats been for the last... decade? (Dunno, you'll probably be able to tell me when the Red & White Taverna first started on InsideTheWeb)

The famous red and white taverna, and the internet baiting of fulham. joyous times.

 

[big neil]

 

[Boston Bee]

I'm not as in-the-know as many/most,l but have followed the team passionately - and the off-field as closely as this board allows. While I'll not post my own obit, I do find that my impulse to read this before my own work email has diminished this season.

Personal reason: The knowledgeable football fans on this board have said since August that we weren't good enough in the center of the pitch, and it has proven to be true over and over and over. We've put together a team not good enough for this level and we're reaping the proverbial whirlwind. I find this club a frustrating one to watch on a number of levels.

The 'vitriol' to me seems well intentioned, the product of many seeing the cliff ahead and that no one seems willing or able to turn the train around. I honestly haven't been able at any point to see in Brentford a team that survives at this level, even in the startling early results.

So we wait for the relegation, more in resignation than in anger anymore. And I post less.

[notice how I wrote that without once blaming LR?]

[D'oh]

 

[Wise old Bee]

When you have supported the club as long as Nigel has you do sometimes need to turn away from events much in the same way that you would avert your eyes from a particularly nasty road crash. I know exactly how he feels and have a lot of respect for the views of someone I have known since our junior school days. Perhaps he can be coaxed into taking the odd stroll along "Memory Lane" where people like me bang on about the 67 takeover bid, Ollie Mansley, John O'Mara etc. etc.? I find this quite cathartic. Imagine what it would have been like if the internet had existed in the 60s and we would have had endless threads about how we always used to beat Arsenal in division 1 and how good Tommy Lawton was. Anyway Nigel, don't rely on the local press for any up-to-date information from GP in the meantime.

 

[mhead bee]

I know how he feels but my solution is to just come on here less and less. I go weeks sometimes without bothering to read this.
I would not cut it off forever as things always change, but at the moment there is so much bickering and pontificating on here that it is impossible to know who you should or should not believe.

 

[Rod Gowers]

Back in April 2005 I had a wonderful cathartic moment and chose neither to renew my BU membership nor take any active interest in the off-field ‘shenanigans.

I became an apparatchik simply following (and sometimes even enjoying following) Brentford. The constant lurching from crisis to crisis, the overt incompetence, the hidden agenda and the constant failure to deliver on promises made were no longer of any concern to me.

I still retained an interest, from a combination of morbid curiosity and as a source of amusement in the postings and musings on the GPG. There were, of course, the keyboard warriors (I count myself guilty, on occasion, in this regard) but some wonderfully erudite and witty posts, many from those whose contributions could and should have made a real difference if only they had been acknowledged. There was always a whinge factor but the generally positive and constructive balance meant that there was a lack of constancy in the negativity and that the GPG was still, at the least, an entertainment.

It is sad then to look at the GPG today. Little more than an organ for constant and incessant whining about every minute facet of life the universe and everything (apologies Douglas Adams) with only the occasional, and you have to search hard, insightful comment or news snippet . Even the banter has taken a down-turn, what was once an entertainment is now a chore.

So time to move on. It was fun sharing a laugh, expounding club-saving ideologies, theorising over “what, who and when”. It seems so recent.

That’s it then, my last post, I wish it could be more uplifting, must be the 'GPG effect'. The PMs are turned off, the profile edited.

Farewell.

Congratulations! You have taken self-grandising, smug, pomposity to new heights on the GPG. Have an arrow-root biscuit and calm down.

 

[Voice from the Braemar]

I know how he feels but my solution is to just come on here less and less. I go weeks sometimes without bothering to read this.
I would not cut it off forever as things always change, but at the moment there is so much bickering and pontificating on here that it is impossible to know who you should or should not believe.

funnily enough the site seems to have improved with your regular absences


no, really it has


you wait till I do my fond farewell..........I'll be naming and shaming......don't you worry about that lol

 

[Andrew]

Watch out for the door on the way out....

I'm probably going to get a bashing for this but *cough* attention whore *cough*

 

[GlasgowBee]

Back in April 2005 I had a wonderful cathartic moment and chose neither to renew my BU membership nor take any active interest in the off-field ‘shenanigans.

I became an apparatchik simply following (and sometimes even enjoying following) Brentford. The constant lurching from crisis to crisis, the overt incompetence, the hidden agenda and the constant failure to deliver on promises made were no longer of any concern to me.

I still retained an interest, from a combination of morbid curiosity and as a source of amusement in the postings and musings on the GPG. There were, of course, the keyboard warriors (I count myself guilty, on occasion, in this regard) but some wonderfully erudite and witty posts, many from those whose contributions could and should have made a real difference if only they had been acknowledged. There was always a whinge factor but the generally positive and constructive balance meant that there was a lack of constancy in the negativity and that the GPG was still, at the least, an entertainment.

It is sad then to look at the GPG today. Little more than an organ for constant and incessant whining about every minute facet of life the universe and everything (apologies Douglas Adams) with only the occasional, and you have to search hard, insightful comment or news snippet . Even the banter has taken a down-turn, what was once an entertainment is now a chore.

So time to move on. It was fun sharing a laugh, expounding club-saving ideologies, theorising over “what, who and when”. It seems so recent.

That’s it then, my last post, I wish it could be more uplifting, must be the 'GPG effect'. The PMs are turned off, the profile edited.

Farewell.

Whats your point caller...you got to be in it to win it...

I always tell the kids if they don't like something they have two options, walk away and it stays poor, or work with it and try to facilitate some change for the better (OK I don't use jargon like 'facilitate' with the kids...more like "stick in there and make a change")

It smacks of girlie whinging to be honest...sorry to be sexist...but my much better half would do this sort of post just to see who would agree with her!

I am getting a visual of the above poster going down with the ship but in a Benny Hill sort of way, futile saluting, manic blinking and a tongue bitten out at a jaunty angle!

Salut!

PS "apparatchik", is this a groupie for a certain army regiment?

 

[mhead bee]

funnily enough the site seems to have improved with your regular absences


no, really it has


you wait till I do my fond farewell..........I'll be naming and shaming......don't you worry about that lol

:zzzzz:

point made!

 

[SmiffyBee]

you wait till I do my fond farewell.........

Is this the most eagerly awaited event in BFC history EVER ????

 

[Worthing Red]

Talk about the ego has landed. Never did understand all his long words anyway.

 

[The H]

Is this the most eagerly awaited event in BFC history EVER ????

you almost feel a thread coming on

 

[beesbeesbarmyarmy]

Congratulations! You have taken self-grandising, smug, pomposity to new heights on the GPG. Have an arrow-root biscuit and calm down.

Thats funny, I felt the same about this statement.

---------------------------------------

"I regret to inform you that on monday last I officially resigned from the BU board. I apologise straight away to anybody who helped elect me last year and who now feels I may have let them down.

"The main reason for my decision to resign is because I believe that for the BU board to preside and act appropriately for the benefit of its members, it has to be knowledgeable at all times to events happening within GP and BFC. Unfortunately it seems to me that the communication between BU and the football club are negligable, and therefore it is impossible for the board to behave and act in a professional way. There remains a prevalent culture of "non-transparency and secrecy" within GP that allows bad practise to remain within the club.


"The second reason for my decision to resign is because, with BFC and BU facing mountainous debts, I would have thought the main focus (perhaps only focus) of the Board, would be to increase membership and funds for the trust, and also for the club. Again, in my opinion, opportunities here have been missed, and I don't believe fundraising is being given enough priority. I still intend to fundraise for the club, but believe I could better do this outside the yolk of the Bu board.

"My frustration with the present situation and my decision to quit the BU board in no fashion is a criticism of the present good people on the BU board, many of whom are working tirelessly and without thanks for the fans, or of Jon Gosling the BU board representative, who also works tirelessly for the fans.

"For Brentford to truly become a fans run club the procedures and management structures within GP must change, and everybody working within the club should be accountable."

 

[Davee]

Am I bothered? Am I? Do you think I'm your butler?

 

[ineedtherapbee]

Nigel liked humour so here is some.

Nigel wont be back on here........... He cannot be bargained with, he cannot be reasoned with, he does not feel pain or remorse...................

He is the Nigelnator!


Dah dah dut dah dahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....................dah dah dut dah dahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

 

[Carri Bee Un]

Thats funny, I felt the same about this statement.

lol bit of a smackdown there. :box: lol

 

[pandora]

See what I find worrying is how many just go ???

for Nigel who says goodbye, what is the number of people who just leave?

 

[Brain-dead Bee]

See what I find worrying is how many just go ???

for Nigel who says goodbye, what is the number of people who just leave?

As it's the GPG he's leaving, rather than stopping supporting the Bees (unless I misread it), it's no disaster if more leave - and that includes me of course. The GPG is good for info (though it's not always reliable) and it can be good for a laugh, but if you don't enjoy it any more then no material harm is done to the club by you signing off.

Someone could probably check the Members list to see how many once-regular posters have stopped contributing over the last x months, but I don't know what it would prove

 

[pandora]

As it's the GPG he's leaving, rather than stopping supporting the Bees (unless I misread it), it's no disaster if more leave - and that includes me of course. The GPG is good for info (though it's not always reliable) and it can be good for a laugh, but if you don't enjoy it any more then no material harm is done to the club by you signing off.

I strongly disagree. The GPG is so important. It engages people, it maintains interest and to some, it introduces bfc......

If fans are leaving here they are leaving Griffin Park as well

 

[InkyWest]

nigel brooks supposed departure

It is hardly ever that I comment on postings on this board but for the large ginger headed one I have to make an exception. Nigel, what the ****'s up? I thought you were emigrating to Australia or something not pissed off with this silly message board. Get a grip man!
Ciao!
Ian West

 

[Banana]

It is hardly ever that I comment on postings on this board but for the large ginger headed one I have to make an exception. Nigel, what the ****'s up? I thought you were emigrating to Australia or something not pissed off with this silly message board. Get a grip man!
Ciao!
Ian West

Surprised you read the Lievine, less believe it!

 

[brooks]

PS "apparatchik" is this a groupie for a certain army regiment?

It's a teenage communist girl in a very short skirt.

 

[scudnut]

It was a pleasure to meet you big man.

 

[Voice from the Braemar]

:zzzzz:

point made!

3 points would have been better lol

 

[Voice from the Braemar]

Is this the most eagerly awaited event in BFC history EVER ????

if that happened, youd have no-one to talk to


go on, admit it.........youd miss me soooooooooo much

 

[hanworthbee]

:zzzzz: who cares things are not that bad.

 

[nocoat]

Nigel liked humour so here is some.

Nigel wont be back on here........... He cannot be bargained with, he cannot be reasoned with, he does not feel pain or remorse...................

He is the Nigelnator!


Dah dah dut dah dahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....................dah dah dut dah dahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

 

[marmabe]

keep ya chin up

I expect all this doom and gloom from me old dad , but come on lads!
Don't expect miracles, we have no money (or fit players). I, like us all, hope we weather the storm. What I don't do is moan my nuts off about who is to blame.
Best you can all do is turn up each week pay your money and support.

 

[sgaz]

Anyone think Nigel's been told off for spending too much time on "messageboards" at work?

lol