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Hamer & Bennett

Have both said they want permanent deals sorted in Jan, and won't remain on loan.

Can we afford them? Would they want to stay here?

Bennett has said he has 'unfinished business' in the Championship, so I presume he's hoping to go somewhere higher.

if they go I'm not sure where this leaves our defence for a promotion push... in tatters I guess.
 

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Davee said:
Have both said they want permanent deals sorted in Jan, and won't remain on loan.

Can we afford them? Would they want to stay here?

Bennett has said he has 'unfinished business' in the Championship, so I presume he's hoping to go somewhere higher.

if they go I'm not sure where this leaves our defence for a promotion push... in tatters I guess.
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Where did you read this Davee ?
 

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Funny that both are requesting this at the same time, especially now that £175,000 has come our way from the FA Cup!

Sounds like maybe someone is putting a bit of pressure on the Board so that we can secure these two for good! :idea:

Thats of course if its true in the first place...
 

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Bennett can talk about the Championship all he wants, no one in that League would take a punt on him.
 

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I would be delighted if we bring in Hamer and Bennett. If we were to get promoted obviously we would be in a far better position to do that. I guess a lot depends on the character of Ben and Alan as well, if they are the kind of people who are willing to stick it out with us and see where it takes them. Bennett is not going to get into Reading's team and won't be leading ROI's defensive line anytime soon. IMHO he would struggle in the championship now. Obviously I cannot comment on how much he is getting paid but if I was him, if we went up, I would sign a one year deal (without taking a stupid pay cut)
Hamer is a bit different as he is already minimum league 1 arguably Championship level. Although he is young enough to give us a year maybe two and see what happens.
The kind of player Scotty likes to get in, both of these scenarios could be possible I guess. I haven't read the article and don't know their wages so I could be chatting cr@p. I'd just like to think that even thesedays a player might still be willing to grow with a good young manager and then maybe move on after a year or so if it doesn't pan out the way they want.
 

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Surely this all also depends on if Reading actually want to sell as well?
 

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Hamer would be fantastic and you could maybe justify him in terms of an investment. Bennett may be too rich for us.
 

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West Ealing Bee said:
I would think he'd want Heywood-type wages, if not more. That's a lot for a League Two centre half.

Hamer is a different case, he would be an saleable asset.
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Agreed, although where this cash might come from is anybody's guess. Given we have no financing in place to cover next season, any windfalls from this need to be banked like a squirrel stores his nuts. Ahem...
 

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Phoenixkeeper said:
Surely this all also depends on if Reading actually want to sell as well?
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West Ealing Bee said:
I would think he'd want Heywood-type wages, if not more. That's a lot for a League Two centre half.

Hamer is a different case, he would be an saleable asset.
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Looking at Wikipedia Reading have 5 keepers

Marcus Hahnemann - 36 years old
Mikkel Andersen
Alex McCarthy
Adam Federici
Ben Hamer

So Ben is possibly 5th choice or at best 4th as Andersen and McCarthy are not loaned out and Federici seems a fairly decent Aussie keeper.
But they have no stand out number 2 and Hahnemann is getting on! :(
 

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I certainly wouldn't break the bank for Bennett, with regards to Hamer, surely by January you would have thought Darlo would be keen to tie up Brown for good, would that then leave us any room to secure Hamer...?
 

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maddogging said:
I certainly wouldn't break the bank for Bennett, with regards to Hamer, surely by January you would have thought Darlo would be keen to tie up Brown for good, would that then leave us any room to secure Hamer...?
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Yep, I would like them both to be on our books but Phillips and Johnson haven't done anything for me to have sleepless nights, I know BJ hasn't been in the centre yet but my Cobbler's coach contact (say that when you're pissed) tells me he good CB and not so good LB. That will do for me as his not so good left backing has been fine, then throw in Karleigh and we are not too shoddy in that dept. Scott has been pretty good in the loan dept, tin hat needed for one or two I know but it's been sound loans so far this season.
Hamer is a good young keeper but again would I poo myself if we had to find a replacement?:confused:As said, isn't he here for the season anyway.
 

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Both have been great for us but neither is irreplacable. Giving them permanent deals all depends on their wage demands.

AS has shown that he can get in decent players and I am sure he has potential replacements in mind for every position in the squad should he need to.
 

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Stanley said:
Both have been great for us but neither is irreplacable. Giving them permanent deals all depends on their wage demands.

AS has shown that he can get in decent players and I am sure he has potential replacements in mind for every position in the squad should he need to.
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We'd struggle to find a keeper the standard of Hamer to sign permanently. Maybe another youngster from A Championship Club on loan which AS could acheive I'm sure. Bennett could be replaced with a permanent signing IMHO or by Osborne or Johnson forming a strong partnership with Phillips which would be great.
It would be a real coup if we could snap up Hamer, he's another Paul Smith if not better.
 

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doubt we can afford 1 let alone both! Reckon Hamer would drop to our current level but not sure about AB.
 

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Ghost said:
We'd struggle to find a keeper the standard of Hamer to sign permanently. Maybe another youngster from A Championship Club on loan which AS could acheive I'm sure. Bennett could be replaced with a permanent signing IMHO or by Osborne or Johnson forming a strong partnership with Phillips which would be great.
It would be a real coup if we could snap up Hamer, he's another Paul Smith if not better.
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Think you may be right, but would like a second opinion. What do you think, Claire?:wave:
 

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Bennett: "Only Shrewsbury have shown us so far they're going to be in the mix. No-one has really challenged us."

Did I imagine the Rochdale game then?
 

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Matty D said:
Bennett: "Only Shrewsbury have shown us so far they're going to be in the mix. No-one has really challenged us."

Did I imagine the Rochdale game then?
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In all fairness we were shocking (apart from the start of the second half up to when BH got knocked out) rather than they were exceptionally good.
 

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I'd much rather have Hamer sign, Bennett is good, but championship and international level? Not in a month of sundays.
 

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Hamer in particular is a big part of why we are top 5. Bennett looks better with each game and should realise that league 1 may be his level. We should sign them. Look at it this way. how maany do we take a punt on that fail and we pay decent wages for 1-2 seasons? I would shed no tears to see Pead go for example. Prefer gamble of smaller squad of higher quality. Worried also about long term injured such as Smith, we cannot as a club afford too many/any of these.
 

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JimP said:
http://www.hounslowchronicle.co.uk/...1/19/bennett-deal-or-no-deal-109642-22296475/

So where does any of that mention Hamer? As has been said, but appears to have been overlooked in all this speculation, he's on a season-long loan. I therefore don't believe he would have any options to discuss in January.
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Last Weeks Richmond & Twick, he said he wants a permanent deal done this Jan, he feels yet another loan would be unsettling.

He didn't rule out joining us, but I can't help feeling he and Reading may get a better offer.
 

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They would both be very good signings for us at this level, however in reality they should both be able to command better wages than we can offer and should be able to attract league 1 clubs.

I guess it depends on what we can offer in terms of wages and how they feel about us getting promoted this year.

Still, with the credit crunch taking hold, maybe they should take our £80 a week offer and be happy!!;)
 

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I wouldn't break the bank to sign them, lets put it that way, Hamer is the better prospect IMO for a future return on him, but Bennett? They're two a penny in this league...............................................where have i heard that before!
 

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All sounds very agent-inspired to me. I guess this is just one of the downsides of having to rely on the odd loan player

I'd be surprised if we could afford either unless we have another one of those legendary Brentford New Year clearance sales?

Besides, we don't need to worry about Hamer going. We've got Brown coming back!! :sneakoff:
 

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Dont feel we could afford both really. Would rather Hamer, young hot prospects for the lad!
His loan doesnt run out till the summer, so talks of his transfer dont have to start yet, ideally be great to get him next summer.
With Bennet great player however Hamer and Bennet maybe too expensive and reckon what i have seen BJ and Phillips have shown there capable of taking his place, and possibly Wilson on loan again in Jan.
And Osborne!
 

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Sign Benett, lets go up :idea:

Lets not make the same mistakes again. That "sell a player balance books" attitude has cost us a fortune.
 

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We haven't got any money. Our funding will take to the end of the season and then we have to scrabble around for cash so I'd rather we banked our FA Cup cash to avoid difficulties come next season.

I will be prepared to change my mind on this once we beat Barrow and get Chelsea/Arsenal/Manchester United or Liverpool away in the third round, ideally with a replay to follow at Griffin Park live on ITV. Then we might have some spare cash to sign Bennett and Hamer.

Or some multi-millionaire turns up wishing to help out.
 

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Bennett has no future at Reading, so his position depends on whether others come in with an offer. If we could get him on a deal appropriate for our division (with a clause giving an increase if we get promoted) and one we can afford, then I think we should try to get him... I don't think a transfer fee would be needed

I think Hamer might have a future at Reading, so we have a decent chance of him staying until the summer, but little chance of getting him permanently.

In both cases, I hope things are sorted within the first week of Jan, so we can get others in if needed
 

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Is Matthew Benham still putting in money for a player development fund?

Would of thought Hamer would of been a classic case for that pot?
 

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nick logan said:
Sign Benett, lets go up :idea:

Lets not make the same mistakes again. That "sell a player balance books" attitude has cost us a fortune.
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I understand your point but we can't spend what we physically don't have. :shrug:
 

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Owlsmoor_Bee said:
I understand your point but we can't spend what we physically don't have. :shrug:
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erm....I think you'll find that these days you don't actually need the " physical " cash as you put it to spend money, signing ben Hamer would be a medium term investment.
Alternatively we can let him go back to Reading put "lead boots" Brown back in goal and stay in DIV 4 ?
 

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Owlsmoor_Bee said:
I understand your point but we can't spend what we physically don't have. :shrug:
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Never stopped us in the past. ;)

We are also paying both players some part their wage at present, so any new deal would not be for the full amount as such as we aleady have some factored in this seasons budget. So a deal might be able to be done if A) Reading pay up the remainder of Bennett contract in January and we offer a deal until June with a 1 or 2 year extension if promotion is gained with salary X. Then Salary Y if its not. He would also have the option of being a free agent in July too.
 

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Lokster said:
We haven't got any money. Our funding will take to the end of the season and then we have to scrabble around for cash so I'd rather we banked our FA Cup cash to avoid difficulties come next season.

I will be prepared to change my mind on this once we beat Barrow and get Chelsea/Arsenal/Manchester United or Liverpool away in the third round, ideally with a replay to follow at Griffin Park live on ITV. Then we might have some spare cash to sign Bennett and Hamer.
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Nailed on. Woe betide anyone on both BU and BFC boards if they don't agree with the first paragraph.
 

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markbfc said:
Nailed on. Woe betide anyone on both BU and BFC boards if they don't agree with the first paragraph.
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Hmmm.
That augers well for future harmony at board level !
Surely, the wise thing would be for those boards to carefully weigh up the pros and cons, and consult the Manager,before making a final decision either way?
 

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GEOFFBEE said:
Surely, the wise thing would be for those boards to carefully weigh up the pros and cons, and consult the Manager,before making a final decision either way?
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The manager is fully aware of the budget given to him at the start of the season and he spends it accordingly.

Any extra cash the club banks outside of the budget is none of his business. We have no extra funding past this May.
 
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