Igor Thiago (12 Viewers)

[Bees_and_flipflops]

A couple of opportunities to play in Dango where I think he made the wrong decision, but that understanding will come. Battled hard, had some great involvements, particularly defensively, and of course for the goal. If they all stay fit, that front 3 will be unstoppable by the end of the season.

 

[Downbeat Bee]

I don’t think he was as good as some posters above this seem to think (or hope). No use getting on his back as some have suggested was happening today. It is still relatively early days in terms of playing time.

 

[beesupfulhamdown!]

More like the Newcastle performance last season held it up well

 

[jbee]

Just keep playing him he's getting there.

 

[beeeehive]

1 goal and 1 assist, still is learning the prem and getting up to speed. He also played against two of the tactically most solid teams. Toney was one of the best hold up players I've ever seen, he will prob never reach that level.

 

[Dazza]

Worked his socks off today, was out on his feet for the final 10 or so minutes. Feels like he's overthinking when he has the ball leading him to be a bit slow and making the wrong choices. He's getting there though. Having pace either side and Damsgaard behind helps - who'd have thought?

Also I fear he's going to suffer from being a big man where defenders can be very hands on and foul him and he'll not win any free kicks

 

[magicbees]

Sharpness and Fitness will come, but he needs game time. I don't care who you are 18 months out is a long time.

 

[Sheerwater Bee]

Needs to significantly improve in all areas. Giving 100% though..

 

[Stanley]

His hold up play, closing down players with the ball and general movement was very good against a top defence. His assist for the goal was quality. His weak shot will be commented on and judged by some but I have no doubt he will get there, he is no modern day Murray Jones

 

[beesupfulhamdown!]

Needs to significantly improve in all areas. Giving 100% though..

Thats harsh think it was a vast improvement on last week

 

[Adam]

1 goal and 1 assist, still is learning the prem and getting up to speed. He also played against two of the tactically most solid teams. Toney was one of the best hold up players I've ever seen, he will prob never reach that level.

Sadly won’t get an assist today.

 

[Indian Bee]

Thiago was more effective for us than Watkins was for Villa. We do however need a striker option from the bench. A priority I hope if Wissa was to leave.

 

[Sheerwater Bee]

Thats harsh think it was a vast improvement on last week

The bar was very very low.. I'm not saying he's a busted flush, just that a lot of improvement is required. He's our new striker and to date hasn't posed any threat in front of goal at all..

 

[jbee]

The bar was very very low.. I'm not saying he's a busted flush, just that a lot of improvement is required. He's our new striker and to date hasn't posed any threat in front of goal at all..

KA spoke very eloquently on him after the game. Pointed out he has had a year in Bulgaria, a year in Belgium, and then a year out with injury. We need to be patient with him.

 

[BURFORD BEE]

Needs game time. Start him against Muff.
Like KA too soon to judge

 

[andyrew]

Just keep playing him he's getting there.

It'll take him a season to get fully up to speed. We must persevere with him. There will be ups and downs along the way. Patience peoples.

 

[allanfinnie]

Thats harsh think it was a vast improvement on last week

That wasn’t difficult ??

 

[BAGSHOTBEE]

Not the fastest feet in the world and works best when ball is played into space for him to run into. Defintley need a backup striker for the impending Wissa departure.

 

[Indian Bee]

Sharpness and Fitness will come, but he needs game time. I don't care who you are 18 months out is a long time.

Agree and pleased KA alluded to it at the end of his interview.


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[Beecareful]

We undoubtedly need cover at cf.

 

[Hippobee]

Thiago was more effective for us than Watkins was for Villa. We do however need a striker option from the bench. A priority I hope if Wissa was to leave.

Yep if we are chasing a game or God forbid, one of those front 3 get injured, we have nothing on the bench to change it up. It looks like KLP as a forward has been binned for now and KA's love in with Carvalho is on ice for the time being. I'm sure he'll feature this season, but needs to work harder than we have seen to make an impact.

I'm sure we're trying, but only a week left now.

 

[beesupfulhamdown!]

We undoubtedly need cover at cf.

We will once we know the situation with wissa

 

[brentford born & bred]

I noticed during the warm up exercises how good his finishing was when crosses were drilled across the goal in the area between the 6 yard line and penalty spot. If you look at the goals he scored for Bruges many were the result of crosses into that area.

 

[badgerbee]

Did OK.
And unlike what some have said, he does have good pace. Shown by the way he beat villa defender in a chase across the pitch in the first half.
His "shot" in the 2nd half worried/worries me though.....

 

[Indian Bee]

Yep if we are chasing a game or God forbid, one of those front 3 get injured, we have nothing on the bench to change it up. It looks like KLP as a forward has been binned for now and KA's love in with Carvalho is on ice for the time being. I'm sure he'll feature this season, but needs to work harder than we have seen to make an impact.

I'm sure we're trying, but only a week left now.

100%. My heart sank when KS was down in the first half.

 

[guilly]

I think he grew with the game. He was holding the ball and people much better towards the end, but he clearly didn't have much left in the tank. He had to stay in the pitch due to lack of options, but he is definitely showing progress

 

[To Bee Someone]

Not helped by the red who let Mings manhandle him. Overall a good performance. His confidence will grow. Had a half chance at the end that shows he is getting in good positions. That front 3 has a lot of potential

 

[rallyingmick]

He holds it up well as a big lad, but needs to learn the prem more and turn them hold ups into free kicks like ivan used to.

 

[Alex]

Not helped by the red who let Mings manhandle him. Overall a good performance. His confidence will grow. Had a half chance at the end that shows he is getting in good positions. That front 3 has a lot of potential

Indeed on one hand you have Mings wrapping Thiago and throwing him around, no foul. On the other Villa players falling over like a house of cards in the wind and free kicks given every time.

 

[beeeehive]

Watched the game back on game of the day, some of his chest passes second half were so good and got us up the pitch, he worked and battled hard. The rest of the team are letting him down with the service he gets, scraps. Lee Hendrie spoke highly of his performance and work rate while pointing out his lack of service.

He’s a beast and a handful, just need to get him infront of goal.

 

[beeeehive]

He holds it up well as a big lad, but needs to learn the prem more and turn them hold ups into free kicks like ivan used to.

Yep, also he needs to release some quicker passes sometimes. Just needs games and prem experience. He had far more influence today than Watkins and Rodgers.

 

[wibs]

I dont know if I'm imagining it but he he seems to start slowly, almost slightly intimidated, but grows into the game and gets increasingly assertive

 

[Banana]

He holds it up well as a big lad,

Not sure what to say.

 

[Banana]

I guess we have to take on board the post-match interview with KA where he says that he has had limited PL experience. He has all the tools. But I want to see him start using them much more effectively.

 

[james121bees]

We’ve got a great passionate player on our hands here. Will take the time to fully bed into the premier league but worth the wait I’m sure

 

[psg150]

Liked what he gave us today. Stronger on the ball, more persistent in the challenge. Blowing at the end as he had worked so hard. The connection between the front 4 isn't there yet and those patterns of play need work so he will look better and better as a goal threat over time. One thought - it seems at times like he loses focus and is a bit late to react to a pass/opportunity to challenge. Hendo seemed to point this out to him a few times. Hope the club have identified this and have the sports psychologists working with him.
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[w6bee]

Pros - 2 games and 2 goal involvements (our only goals scored so far)

Cons - 3 games started now and I am not sure if he has hit the target yet. It may only be 3 shots across the 3 games.

 

[Bizzy Bee]

IT 2.0 was more effective than OW yesterday, even with the octopus Mings holding onto him at every opportunity.

 

[rallyingmick]

Not sure what to say.

Ok...

When you work out what you want to say let us know. ?

 

[Indian Bee]

IT 2.0 was more effective than OW yesterday, even with the octopus Mings holding onto him at every opportunity.

Referee kept on letting Mings get away with it everytime.

 

[kaebess]

Worked his backside off and made himself a handful.

2 games in after being out for pretty much all of last season and against decent opposition and he's showing enough for us to know he can be a real front man. Goals will come

Yep big improvement in just the first week

 

[AB]

Liked what he gave us today. Stronger on the ball, more persistent in the challenge. Blowing at the end as he had worked so hard. The connection between the front 4 isn't there yet and those patterns of play need work so he will look better and better as a goal threat over time. One thought - it seems at times like he loses focus and is a bit late to react to a pass/opportunity to challenge. Hendo seemed to point this out to him a few times. Hope the club have identified this and have the sports psychologists working with him.
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I don’t know whether psychologists will be needed any more than the club already routinely involves them but I think apart from simply gaining experience of the conditions he’ll get a huge amount from Hendo.

I loved the bit yesterday where Hendo had a right go at him for something, he looked initially a bit taken aback then after processing it, broke into a huge smile and high fived Hendo in thanks.

It showed a great relationship developing and a real willingness to learn. It’s not just Igor though, I sensed a lot of togetherness growing.

Last week some complained they thought KA’s post-match comments were throwing the players under the bus. But it may be that rather than coddling egos, the approach we’re getting is a very open culture of constructive criticism which the lads are buying into rather than taking offence to.

 

[wanderer paul]

He’s fine. Nust needs time. Dams and KLP to 18 months to get up to speed. Wissa, Schade and even Jensen took a season. Patience.

 

[Terrace Weeding]

In some respects what Mings was allowed to get away with by a poor ref will be a good learning curve for Igor, he will be a fine player for us.

 

[thanetbee]

he was very isolated second half yet was was involved in two or three excellent involvements, particularly the Schade chance around 70 minutes. Clearly still getting up to speed but some good signs.

 

[Mark H]

His flick on for the goal was perfect, both Dango and Schade running off him is definitely what he needs. The second half we had to sit deep and he then became isolated again. This will get better once he builds up a partnership with the other two.

 

[whyteleafebee76]

He's absolutely fine and another 3-4 weeks he will look much sharper I reckon. He was blowing after about 60 minutes yesterday but that's part of adjusting to the PL and how we play.

 

[Poolieboydave]

Baffled by the concerns at this early stage, given the nature of how deep we played second half he did well.

Yes, I wish he’d taken his left footed chance a bit better and been marginally sharper when played through in the box, which Martinez quickly grabbed, but I loved his flick on for the goal (don’t care if it doesn’t count as an assist officially, it WAS an assist) and I think he will grow into a fine striker given time.

He was dead on his feet so we do need to find at least one other forward player to mix things up, but I’m quite pleased with his performance yesterday against a decent Villa side.

 

[Garybaldbee]

Definite signs of improvement. He held the ball up better, showed flashes of real pace and was instrumental in the goal. He's clearly still struggling with the speed of thought required in the Premier League and is a long, long way from the finished article but there's a real player in there somewhere if we are patient. He desperately needs game time so I'd be tempted to play him against Bournemouth in the League Cup.

 

[readingbee]

Definite signs of improvement. He held the ball up better, showed flashes of real pace and was instrumental in the goal. He's clearly still struggling with the speed of thought required in the Premier League and is a long, long way from the finished article but there's a real player in there somewhere if we are patient. He desperately needs game time so I'd be tempted to play him against Bournemouth in the League Cup.

Definitely work in progress.