JCMcBee
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Me & my boy gave JD a little clap...
Not proper fans now
yes you are proper mate.......and dont let anyone on here tell you,or make you think, otherwise.
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yes you are proper mate.......and dont let anyone on here tell you,or make you think, otherwise.
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Jonathan Douglas
GP is not the New Den though. In recent years BFC has looked to build up its fan base as a community/ family club.
Maybe, just maybe the rapturous applause for JD galvanised our players to think, time we pulled our fingers out and gave our fans something to clap us about - as in the 30 minutes preceding his appearance, there was not too much to cheer our fans. Certainly the Ipswich fans blame their capitulation on the substitutions.
All is well and ends well - an unlikely point salvaged and unwittingly JD played his part by conceding the corner for the second goal. For that, the applause was inadvertently merited?
JCMcBee
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.....i didnt clap simply because i had the hump....i didnt care whether people clapped or not,i was too busy having the hump at what was going on on the pitch.......i just think people are making too much out of this clapping and singing stuff and trying to turn it into a GPG turf war.....i hate gangs.......none of it matters,i dont really care.
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Jonathan Douglas
I clapped , it was appropriate , has been done many times over the years for players that deserve recognition from the club he has left ie Beckham , Ronaldo ......it's very weird that some people find this behaviour odd ......
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Jonathan Douglas
Quick question - who got a better ovation when they came on - Douglas or Vibe?
If it was Douglas, a lot of people have got a lot of thinking to do.
If it was Douglas, a lot of people have got a lot of thinking to do.
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Me & my boy gave JD a little clap...
Not proper fans now
Proper fans was out of order but I was angry, my point should have been that I prefer away games as we turn up with a more siege and together mentality than the day out and soft atmosphere at GP when the lights aren't on. We won't be clapping home players at Bristol and Burnley unless there is a bad injury, I prefer to give what little I offer to my own team.
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I know what you mean mate ...
I don't really disagree with what you are saying.
What a fantastic ending yesterday was ..
I went nuts & lost my Sunglasses
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I think we all know we're a "nice" lot of supporters and surprised there wasn't a "Welcome home Josh" banner.
It's what we are, can't see it changing but would love to see if at LR we create a hostile atmosphere with people doing a bit of pre planning when arranging their season tickets together?
If we could group those who have been part of Royal Oak, Hate Corner, Paddock, Noizy Boys and regular away fans we could at least make a boy of noise and bait away players, officials and fans without upsetting considerate, gentle folk?
It's what we are, can't see it changing but would love to see if at LR we create a hostile atmosphere with people doing a bit of pre planning when arranging their season tickets together?
If we could group those who have been part of Royal Oak, Hate Corner, Paddock, Noizy Boys and regular away fans we could at least make a boy of noise and bait away players, officials and fans without upsetting considerate, gentle folk?
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I think there is an ITK individual who insists his close mates know Douglas as "Josh"
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My last thought on this: I know what you're saying Gee Bee, and it's absolutely true. But, be I 'soft' or not, what makes this a great club is that it's not like the others. We take care of our own. I hate that 'family club' thing, but we do have a desire to be special to players. It matters (to me at least) that players like Hunty, Tabb, and so, so many more come to watch us years after they last pulled on a Bees shirt, because something about this club isn't like the others they played at. I believe that it's because we do care about the players as people and that it's not just some cold money-centric business I'm watching. I'm watching people play a game at a skill level I could only dream of.
Is there 'no loyalty to each other' at Brentford? I think historically that's not been true, and that's why I thought it was great that we clapped for Douglas.
Is there 'no loyalty to each other' at Brentford? I think historically that's not been true, and that's why I thought it was great that we clapped for Douglas.
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Interesting that all the tractor boys fans sung
" There's only one Jonny Douglas "
From his performance already clearly upset that those in the know at his new club do not know what to call him. Josh, Joss or what ever it is. If he carries forward the same attitude it will be of his own making.
I did not clap the man because he clearly felt his own opinion was more important than the clubs while he was still with us. I am not ITK but anyone who stops being a team player I am not interested in, as it becomes divisive and distruptive.
" There's only one Jonny Douglas "
From his performance already clearly upset that those in the know at his new club do not know what to call him. Josh, Joss or what ever it is. If he carries forward the same attitude it will be of his own making.
I did not clap the man because he clearly felt his own opinion was more important than the clubs while he was still with us. I am not ITK but anyone who stops being a team player I am not interested in, as it becomes divisive and distruptive.
Jonathan Douglas
Clapping a returning player maybe a better option than booing as getting their back up may motivate them to perform. The reception he received could have slightly deflated his motivation even if only subconsciously.
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Will you do the same for Mo given your comments on his move?
Josh was a bad egg so no clap from me. Great player for most of his time with us so it's a shame it ended sour.
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No I won't because Moses was only here for a year and not part of the promotion winning squad. Moses left simply for the money.
JD bad egg or not but was an instrumental part of where we are today. JD was asked to leave. I repeat I would have been disappointed if JD was still here more on footballing reasons, and whatever happened has happened. I don't know who people think it is embarrassing clapping a former player.
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I can't understand why you would be willing to clap JD and not Mo, JD was a bad egg after a while and Mo just got on with his football, albeit for only a year. Both improved us so why you can "dislike" one who has left after a successful year, yet have more support for the one that caused trouble and was forced out.
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This isn't new mate sadly, think the stewarding has got stricter which has been unnecessary, but many supporters need to look at themselves and work out who they are/should be supporting. The Warburton chants after he was leaving didn't help, singing the same song directly after the Fulham and Boro games also didn't help, we should have been singing about our club which may not exist without Mr Benham.
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It's quite simple - the first chance to Moses had, he departed. Moses went for the money and in his words to a 'bigger' club. His comments were disrespectful to the club and fans that did support him. JD gave us 4 years, Moses gave us 1 year.
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Think supporters moaning about the bigger club comments are being massively over sensitive. I suspect Mo had quite a confusing week with the deal being on and off etc. I suspect the last thing he thought off, or could care about, was the press release for his move, he probably had a Pr guy shove a bit of paper under his nose "here, read this". In some/many ways Hull are bigger than us.
To mark Mo's card for a throw away comment like that, yet to still support Dougie after the way he HAD to leave us is very strange imo.
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It wasn't clapping, it was a standing ovation with some much man love attached that I am wondering why we all bother, had I seen that from a home crowd at 2-0 down, I would have added it to my portfolio of home crowds are sad collection, sadly the joke was on us.
Scunny away under Uwe, 200 max Bees there, one up and the home crowd are septic, they want the manager gone, the board out and the players shot, we sub a sh*t Paul Hayes and they stand to applaud their former hero, most that were there were laughing at this mad moment. They got a draw somehow too, pure comedy .
Scunny away under Uwe, 200 max Bees there, one up and the home crowd are septic, they want the manager gone, the board out and the players shot, we sub a sh*t Paul Hayes and they stand to applaud their former hero, most that were there were laughing at this mad moment. They got a draw somehow too, pure comedy .
NorthamptonBee
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From my point of view, I'm not seeing many productive ones, we've been divided since Feb and stupidly I hoped that would have gone by 15.00 yesterday.
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I honestly do not know why clapping a former player that gave his all on the pitch during the most successful period this club has seen for most annoys a few fans. Whatever he was like and yes I have heard what he was like, it didn't affect the performances on the pitch. We all encounter people that are hard to work with - all about management. The management now seem fit JD should not be with us. He has moved on, the club has but it appears a few fans haven't.
I would NEVER ever call a fellow fan clapping a former player is 'not' a proper fan. Each to their own.
I would NEVER ever call a fellow fan clapping a former player is 'not' a proper fan. Each to their own.
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Jonathan Douglas
As others stated if you wanted to clap a more appropriate time would of been during the warm up or even as team's were read out now in the heat of battle at 2-0 down.
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Jonathan Douglas
The statistical analysis of our goals scoed post generous receptions to returning former players is the highest in the championship this season.
Glad to have played my part. Some people still don't get it.
Glad to have played my part. Some people still don't get it.
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So jd wouldn't have gone if a better and " bigger " club came in for him ?
NorthamptonBee
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Jonathan Douglas
I'm over it, I'm just glad I wasn't part of it and won't be convinced it was a polite gesture to a player, is that ok? I haven't mentioned to you that you need to get over Warbs going as that is your personal decision as to when that will be.
Jonathan Douglas
God - what a load of bolo* on this website about Douglas. I actually think that it reflects well on the fans that a big chunk of the crowd clapped a former player back onto the pitch and a smaller chunk decided to stand while doing it. We are a smallish club (not in a derogatory way) that I think is very special which is supported by fans who on the whole are not Millwall, Cardiff, bunch of hooligans etc. We all support in different ways.
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Thank goodness - and I hope we can get some self-respect back and turn Griffin Park into the cauldron of vitriol (or something like that) for the opposition. All this cuddly, pub-on-each corner, novelty old-school friendly ground stuff is doing my head in.
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Jonathan Douglas
bollox. not read this thread. there's obviously a reason why MB elected to get rid - we've all heard rumours of unrest in the dressing room - this guy nearly put Jota out for a season and everyone's bleating on for him at the game? i wasn't there, but from what i've read i think it is disrespectful to the entire BFC set up to cheer and clap and give a standing ovation to an ex-player outside of the warm up or end of game - bollox.
Thanks for the mammaries.
Thanks for the mammaries.
JCMcBee
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....we all do it...no big deal.....and i doubt many of us will ever grow up.
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I'm thinking of forming an ex Bees appreciation club tiered in the following:
1) "Banners and standing ovation" - Accorded to instant legends who after less than one season score a few goals and kiss the badge who didn't want to leave but are ushered out by their agent
2) "Mild ripple of applause and cheeky banter" - Anyone who wasn't completely f*****g useless and ran around a lot raising a sweat
3) "Boos and derisory balloons" - Players like Josh (Ooops sorry he's a legend)
4) On the pitch and lump the f****r - R****s
There will be songsheets and catchy ditties for all former players who the decent fans decide to eulogise if they enter the fray when we're 0-2 down at home that I've decided is a good idea having consulted with Millwall and Cardiff fans who know how to love a leaver.
1) "Banners and standing ovation" - Accorded to instant legends who after less than one season score a few goals and kiss the badge who didn't want to leave but are ushered out by their agent
2) "Mild ripple of applause and cheeky banter" - Anyone who wasn't completely f*****g useless and ran around a lot raising a sweat
3) "Boos and derisory balloons" - Players like Josh (Ooops sorry he's a legend)
4) On the pitch and lump the f****r - R****s
There will be songsheets and catchy ditties for all former players who the decent fans decide to eulogise if they enter the fray when we're 0-2 down at home that I've decided is a good idea having consulted with Millwall and Cardiff fans who know how to love a leaver.
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Jonathan Douglas
I've written Clayton a poem so there is hope for me yet, all I need is 5 mins of the mic at HT Tuesday week and I'm off.
Jonathan Douglas
Wouldn't get too worked up about it mate.
most of the people giving Josh a clap would be unaware of the "politics".
Peeps forget there's a huge chunk of fans not online who just turn up and watch the footie and no idea of what's folklore on here.
storm in a teacup, i cant get worked up about stuff like this
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Under most circumstances you would of course be right. But the comments on here and social media and the continuing adulation after the events of last February of Warburton suggest that there is a significant % of our fanbase who don't approve of the way that the club is being run. The delusion that these people are suffering from is that the club could still exist as a viable concern without MB. I suspect these people are very similar to the Labour party supporters voting for Corbyn.
They are hoping that he will lead them to a promised land by going back 80 years to the values the party had.
What they will do however is destroy it. The club simply cannot survive as it was 10 years ago.
Jonathan Douglas
i disagree Burford, from most (not everybody i grant you) around me are 100% behind MB. Who in their right minds wouldn't be!
Hoffman or Willock?
Button or Bayes?
Tarky or Mackie?
Jota or Thorpe?
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The one guy who should be getting a standing ovation is MB, and whether JD got too much/too little applause yesterday is irrelevant in the bigger scheme of things. It's over.
However, more importantly whether you agree or disagree with MB's approach, the fact is we wouldn't be in the Championship, none of the current squad would be here, and we'd be talked about in the media for about 12 seconds per season.
He who pays the piper calls the tune, and as far as I'm concerned I like the music I'm hearing!
However, more importantly whether you agree or disagree with MB's approach, the fact is we wouldn't be in the Championship, none of the current squad would be here, and we'd be talked about in the media for about 12 seconds per season.
He who pays the piper calls the tune, and as far as I'm concerned I like the music I'm hearing!
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Bill if you did not see me yourself then why post this???? I was not in the paddock at 5.15 I was in the bar with two young ladies who had my undivided attention save for a chat with perrybee who can vouch for my whereabouts.
The GPG Mafia who think they are ITK only get their information from people who are either on the inside of the club ie directly employed or and I choose my words here very specifically are allowed daily access to the club and its players and staff. The same inside people who were together in The Griffin detailing at will "what went on with Jonathan Douglas" and how it got to the point that he "was not taking phone calls from.." a very important person.
Now it must have been very embarrassing for you boys with the brown stuff freshly cultivating the genes of the Messiah on the end of your noses, when so many supporters stood to applaud out of respect a former player and captain of the club and I dare say a few words were exchanged privately in Block C but if the best you can muster is to post lies about me then you are not the person I thought you were.
The New Dawn gave those waiting to laugh at statistical modelling their first feed on Saturday for 87minutes and our brilliant squad does not look so brilliant to most fans as is clear from the posts on the GPG but the Civil War that is breaking out amongst fellow fans is far more concerning.