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Redknapp says he'd love to stay at Birmingham even if he has to drag his wife along ... oh wait a minute... :D lol
 

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Mike Flynn appointed permanent Newport County manager.. well deserved...
 

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Chorlton Bee said:
I love him for the way he's completely shown up that bellend Westley
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Interesting article a few months back, in the FLP, by Westley about his time at Newport. I guess he would say he lay the foundations for their survival and in fairness the article was convincing.
 

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Redknapp agrees one year contract at Birmingham City.
 

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TW3Bee said:
Redknapp agrees one year contract at Birmingham City.
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lol

How much money are the Brummies going to burn employing this has been? lol
 

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TW3Bee said:
Redknapp agrees one year contract at Birmingham City.
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That should increase the average age of the management team as well as the squad when he gets out his old black book!
 

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Good to see Birmingham City putting their trust into a young English manager!
 
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Bill Benn said:
��The return of the magician he can make owners money disappear,just like that
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Wonder how close he can take them to an FFP breach?
 

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Say what you like about Redknapp (and there's plenty could be said!), but as a coach, man manager and motivator, he's actually bloody good!

Of course, his "peripheral" activities can often prove to be a damaging distraction, esp in a badly-run club like Brum, but if he gets it right at St.Andrews, he could still turn them round.

In which case, they could be a real contender next season.
 

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Ealing Bee said:
Say what you like about Redknapp (and there's plenty could be said!), but as a coach, man manager and motivator, he's actually bloody good!

Of course, his "peripheral" activities can often prove to be a damaging distraction, esp in a badly-run club like Brum, but if he gets it right at St.Andrews, he could still turn them round.

In which case, they could be a real contender next season.
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Not sure he does a lot of coaching these days but agree about man management and motivation. He has always been good at getting in players who do the business for him in the short term at least, trouble is they are often older experienced pro's who cost a lot and leave the club with low value assets. I think he will have a go at trying to get them up next season but it will be a bit boom or bust.
 

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Ealing Bee said:
Say what you like about Redknapp (and there's plenty could be said!), but as a coach, man manager and motivator, he's actually bloody good!

Of course, his "peripheral" activities can often prove to be a damaging distraction, esp in a badly-run club like Brum, but if he gets it right at St.Andrews, he could still turn them round.

In which case, they could be a real contender next season.
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Bloody good?dont think Southampton qpha and Pompey fans would agree.Qpha would have been his 4 th relegation if he had stuck around
 

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Ealing Bee said:
Say what you like about Redknapp (and there's plenty could be said!), but as a coach, man manager and motivator, he's actually bloody good!

Of course, his "peripheral" activities can often prove to be a damaging distraction, esp in a badly-run club like Brum, but if he gets it right at St.Andrews, he could still turn them round.

In which case, they could be a real contender next season.
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The bloke is an out and out crook . Only go's where he gets a big budget and thankfully never got the England job .
Them knees of his have recovered rather well ?
 
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Harry is extremely good at understanding what makes players tick, the arm round the shoulder or the harsh words, he is also a past master at getting performances out of players that were seemingly past their sell by dates. However to support this " motivation" is the wages these players are given.

Have no doubt that the Birmingham team next season will have loads of experience and will play to their strengths. Totally disagree about his coaching ability as History would suggest that he does not develop players but loves to buy a hidden gem.

Reckon they will be in the promotion mix next season but hope the owners have very deep pockets as he will want to spend big in the Summer
 

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Redknapp did a bloody good job at Spurs - took over from Ramos mid season when they looked certs for relegation, dragging them up to 9th(?) by season end.

They then finished 4th, 5th and 4th under him - their highest three consecutive League finishes in over half a century (Bill Nicholson era).

On top of that, they had a brilliant run to the Quarter Finals of the Champions League, beating the current holders, and next winners along the way. (It would have been three CL campaigns, only Lasagne-gate screwed them the season they finished 5th, and Chelsea nabbed their other 4th place spot by virtue of having won the CL the previous season).

And the football was pretty thrilling, too, including Bale emerging under HR as world class, and despite the fact that he had his best players sold. In fact, Spurs fans will tell you that he took them to a higher level during his time there, a level that eg Villas Boas conspicuously failed to maintain.

But the key to his success was that Daniel Levy runs the club on a very strict basis, including keeping the club chequebook under strict lock and key. Indeed Levy personally negotiated all transfers in and out during HR's time.

So that when he was forced to concentrate on the purely footballing side of things, and wasn't distracted by "extra-curricular" activities, HR did a great job.

Mind you, I can't see Brum being nearly so well run - in fact, I suspect their appointing Harry will be like inviting a fox into their chicken coop! lol
 

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Ealing Bee said:
Say what you like about Redknapp (and there's plenty could be said!), but as a coach, man manager and motivator, he's actually bloody good!

Of course, his "peripheral" activities can often prove to be a damaging distraction, esp in a badly-run club like Brum, but if he gets it right at St.Andrews, he could still turn them round.

In which case, they could be a real contender next season.
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why does anyone think he'll do a good job for? he ****ed up his last 4 jobs royally, he's going to buy old and overrated players..
 

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The Pipe said:
Totally disagree about his coaching ability as History would suggest that he does not develop players but loves to buy a hidden gem.
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Agree about the hidden gem bit (though his coaching surely polished these gems so that people could see what they're like).

Anyhow, if you look at his time with Spurs, they signed Luca Modric from Croatian domestic football and sold him four years later to Real Madrid. Those four years coincided almost exactly with HR's time at the club. And when he arrived at WHL, Gareth Bale was already at the club as a spindly 18 y.o. full back, whom the club (and HR) nearly sold soon after. But HR was persuaded by one of the backroom staff to give him another chance, he converted him into a winger and the rest, as they say is history.

So both players developed into world class status under Redknapp's coaching.

P.S. Just checked something else. While at WHU, he introduced Michael Carrick, Frank Lampard, Joe Cole and Rio Ferdinand into the first team. Now he won't have discovered those players, or developed them through the youth set-up. But he must have been pivotal towards their making the step-up into the big time, including teaching (i.e. coaching) them the game.
 
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Ealing Bee said:
Agree about the hidden gem bit (though his coaching surely polished these gems so that people could see what they're like).

Anyhow, if you look at his time with Spurs, they signed Luca Modric from Croatian domestic football and sold him four years later to Real Madrid. Those four years coincided almost exactly with HR's time at the club. And when he arrived at WHL, Gareth Bale was already at the club as a spindly 18 y.o. full back, whom the club (and HR) nearly sold soon after. But HR was persuaded by one of the backroom staff to give him another chance, he converted him into a winger and the rest, as they say is history.

So both players developed into world class status under Redknapp's coaching.
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He's had 35 years of management,achievements on the back of a stamp.
 

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Ealing you are probably totally correct in your potted History of Spurs. Struggling to think of all the successes at Bournemouth, Portsmouth, Southampton and Rangers in developing players.

I am afraid you have not convinced me and still believe that he is not the genius the media ( and you) would have us believe !!!
 

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The Pipe said:
Ealing you are probably totally correct in your potted History of Spurs. Struggling to think of all the successes at Bournemouth, Portsmouth, Southampton and Rangers in developing players.
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From Wiki:
Bournemouth - In his first season at the helm, Redknapp helped Bournemouth avoid relegation to the Fourth Division. Bournemouth also caused a shock in the FA Cup when they beat holders Manchester United 2–0 in the third round. Bournemouth won the Third Division title in 1987 with 97 points; this broke the club's record for the most points scored in a season

WHU - West Ham finished eighth in 1998, and took fifth in 1999, which saw them qualify for the Intertoto Cup, in what was their second-best ever season in the top division. In the 1999–2000 season West Ham won the Intertoto Cup and qualified for the UEFA Cup;

Pompey (1) - However, after the club's poor form he replaced manager Graham Rix in March 2002. Redknapp managed the club to the Division One title in the 2002–03 season, gaining promotion to the Premier League, replacing his former club West Ham.;

Soton - Car Crash, Big Mistake (Doesn't actually say that in Wiki, but it should. Anyhow, wasn't there long enough to develop anything, esp with Sir Clive W interfering);

Pompey (2) - Redknapp returned to Portsmouth on 7 December 2005 with the club threatened by relegation to the Championship, although not in the relegation zone. At first it looked like Redknapp would be heading for a second successive relegation, but a fine run of form at the end of the season... ... ensured Portsmouth's survival. In the following season, Redknapp led Portsmouth to a ninth-placed finish which was the club's highest league finish since the 1950s.... ... He guided the club to their first FA Cup Final in 69 years, where they beat Cardiff City, on 17 May 2008, to win The FA Cup 1–0... ... He is the last English manager to win a major English trophy;

Spurs - See earlier post;

QPR - Car Crash, Big Mistake (though tbh, they're pretty much unmanageable, as a succession of managers have proven)

The Pipe said:
I am afraid you have not convinced me and still believe that he is not the genius the media ( and you) would have us believe !!!
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The problem with Harry is that he polarises people. There are those who (often inspired by Harry's pals in the media) who believe he can do no wrong.
And there are others (often inspired by those who have had financial dealings with him) who believe he can do no right.

Me? I certainly don't believe he's a "genius", but neither do I believe that he's rubbish, either. Instead I reckon that at the right club, with the right Chairman (esp), then he can be a very good manager indeed. However, he has frequently chosen the wrong club, often for the wrong reasons, leading to a very patchy record.

All of which is why I actually think he would have made* a good England manager, since there would be no money/transfers involved, far less opportunity to get up to no good (hence fewer distractions) and he'd have had to work with the players given to him (Peter Crouch and Jermain Defoe a hundred caps each!).


* - Past tense, because he's, er, past it now, I expect.
 

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Fair do's Ealing shear weight of information convinced me !!!!!!!?
 

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Have I stumbled into "Harry Redknapp, a life"?
 

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Ealing Bee said:
Mind you, I can't see Brum being nearly so well run - in fact, I suspect their appointing Harry will be like inviting a fox into their chicken coop! lol
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all this waffle, yet you conclude with this, which i think is all that anyone else is trying to say!

can't deny he did well at Spurs, can't deny that his other work over the last 10 years leaves a lot to be desired. don't need another 1,000 words to get back to the same point :wave:
 

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All the staff in our Birmingham office are Blue Noses and all of them are wetting themselves with excitement for next season under Harry.
God help them.
 

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Trouble with Redknapp is that he will likely bring his usual cohorts along for the ride. Bond, Jordan, and others will join soon and also be paid handsomely
 

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Gee Bee said:
Trouble with Redknapp is that he will likely bring his usual cohorts along for the ride. Bond, Jordan, and others will join soon and also be paid handsomely
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............first signing........Peter Crouch............
 

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Mansfield Town have refused Swindon Town permission to speak to manager Steve Evans.

Evans has won 15 of his 33 games in charge of Mansfield..
 

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Mansfield have refused Swindon permission to talk to Steve Evans.

**** me!

How desperate are they?
 

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TW3Bee said:
Mansfield have refused Swindon permission to talk to Steve Evans.

**** me!

How desperate are they?
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He's an odious individual but if I didn't care about anything other than results you could do worse than call him, he knows how to get out of that division.
I'd hate him to ever be considered for any role at our club but no denying he's proven at that level.
 

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We should make a list of all these eccentric or even arsy managers who are marmite but are proven lower division escape artists.

I will start everyone off with

Steve Evans
Neil Warnock
Martin Allen
 

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North London Bee said:
We should make a list of all these eccentric or even arsy managers who are marmite but are proven lower division escape artists.

I will start everyone off with

Steve Evans
Neil Warnock
Martin Allen
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Graham Westley
Darren Ferguson
 

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Evans is a CBomb.

But when he was linked with Oldham I'd have been more than happy glad he taken the job.
 

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Southampton's manager, Puel, under the spotlight too, it seems. Les Reed conducting a review into the season.

Makes you wonder what these Clubs - Watford & Southampton - expect from their Manager? If they believe top 6 or 7 - qualify for Europe - then they need to realise it's a tough League!
 
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