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Clearly his confidence has taken a knock but Flekken's long passing ability is going to be way more important to us now Toney is back. Wissa and Maupay are never going to win many headers competing against defenders.
 

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Listened to his interview on Radio 5 Live earlier.....
He seemed pretty downbeat.
Not convinced he's happy/settled at the club yet.
 

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brentfordfc4ever said:
Do me a favour. You don't know unless you try ffs. He a goalkeeper. It wasn't miles away from him either.

I think you're keyboard is broke.
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I think your brain may be broke if you think there was any chance of him saving that
 

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gilly said:
Some data for you my friend
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What are those stats meant to say/prove?

Janelt miskicked the first attempt and skied it upwards for the second attempt of clearing and gave the ball away when we've yet to have any meaningful possession.
He gifted them the ball back, at our end of the pitch, with his poor clearance.
 

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ladbroke said:
What are those stats meant to say/prove?

Janelt miskicked the first attempt and skied it upwards for the second attempt of clearing and gave the ball away when we've yet to have any meaningful possession.
He gifted them the ball back, at our end of the pitch, with his poor clearance.
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Janelt was the main issue without doubt. However, you expect your goalkeeper to make an attempt. It's not the first time this season. If you don't try you can save it.
 

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aawharris said:
I suppose he is the easy target though, even though somebody else made a complete cock up and he did nothing wrong ?
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Janelt was horrific. Not an easy target, there has been a lot of occasions like that from Flekken. That's why it's split 50/50 on his performances.
 

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brentfordfc4ever said:
Janelt was the main issue without doubt. However, you expect your goalkeeper to make an attempt. It's not the first time this season. If you don't try you can save it.
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I think that shot caught everyone of guard, it was wel hit and right in on the post.
Keeper had no chance.
 

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Watched it 5/6 times on Sky no way the keepers fault. We have a defence that is currently misfiring along, unfortunately with the rest of the team at present ??
 

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I don’t think even Mr Tickle would have got a hand to that one.
Some people really need to think before they post.
The bloke is, by his own admission low in confidence.
let’s hope he doesn’t read this board as the bell end-ometer is off the scale.
 

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Not at fault for the goals at all, some of our “fans” are on a mission it seems.

One thing I would say is he doesn’t come for crosses or corners much, which clearly shows a lack of confidence. It’s been a tough season for him and he needs a couple of good games I think to regain confidence. He hasn’t yet won us a game.
 

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I've moved onto the fence for the first goal. I'm going to watch it back later.

One excellent punch in the first half. Steady and helped massively with his possession based skills.
 

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upnorthbee said:
Not at fault for the goals at all, some of our “fans” are on a mission it seems.

One thing I would say is he doesn’t come for crosses or corners much, which clearly shows a lack of confidence. It’s been a tough season for him and he needs a couple of good games I think to regain confidence. He hasn’t yet won us a game.
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Very good and fair assessment. Found myself shouting “come on Mark” almost willing him to commit. He’s still yet to settle, that much is clear.

He wasn’t at fault, but I can, I can, appreciate not understand but appreciate this frustration about him being flat footed
 

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BuzzingBee95 said:
Very good and fair assessment. Found some self shouting “come on Mark” almost willing him to commit. He’s still yet to settle, that much is clear.

He wasn’t at fault, but I can, I can, appreciate not understand but appreciate this frustration about him being flat footed
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He’s our keeper. So we want him to do well.
the coaches need to work on this catching and area command. He is a big fella. Show who’s the boss!! onwards & upwards.
come on you bees!!!
 

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Bang behind that post for their first and could see it was in as soon as he hit it, Flekken had no chance. Couple times towards the end of the second half he could've claimed it but he had a good game
 

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For the first goal, he was unsighted by a player from both teams for the initial shot and it was slicing away from him. I think it ends up pretty much hitting the side netting.
Absolutely no chance of saving that. If he had a clear sight off the boot he may have been able to put in a proper dive but only an absolute worldie keeps it out.
 

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Of course every Bees fan wants Flekken do do well. But, imo, he does not inspire confidence, he does not come for crosses, his positioning is somtimes poor and he punches rather than catches
He must also be the most static goalkeeper I have seen in the PL.
Pretty much every goal conceded he remains completely rooted to the turf.
I really think we need better....
 

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Mark "rooted to the spot" Flekken certainly found himself rooted to the spot on several occasions again today... that said, I can't imagine anyone else saving either goal. The first goal was an outstanding hit.

Thought his distribution was pretty good tonight and he even came to collect a cross too at one point.
 

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HerefordB said:
Of course every Bees fan wants Flekken do do well. But, imo, he does not inspire confidence, he does not come for crosses, his positioning is somtimes poor and he punches rather than catches
He must also be the most static goalkeeper I have seen in the PL.
Pretty much every goal conceded he remains completely rooted to the turf.
I really think we need better....
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It gives me no pleasure to be confirming I agree with this. At PL level, you hope to see some saves that the keeper has no right to make, but that won’t happen whilst a keeper is rooted to the spot, and I’m seeing that way too often with Mark. I’m sure the coaches are as aware as us lot are, and hope they can work with him to bring his best out.
 

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jonny c said:
Didn't he make a decent stop in the second half, too?

He does look static at times, but can't deny he has very good distribution. Turner showed what the opposite side of the coin looks like for Forest tonight.
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Absolutely. I'd hate us to play our style with Turner in goal. Absolute dog sh*t with his feet and not much better in any other aspect.
 

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Flekken is so iffy, the man loves to punch a catchable ball? Make it make sense, uneeded pressure it brings. Also loves to ball watch it go past…..
 

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james121bees said:
Flekken is so iffy, the man loves to punch a catchable ball? Make it make sense, uneeded pressure it brings. Also loves to ball watch it go past…..
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Which punch in particular tonight should he have caught??
 

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Wilmslow Bee said:
Which punch in particular tonight should he have caught??
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The one in the first half that he punched out that caused panic which resulted In a forest player going down luckily. Unbelievable he punched that ball we got lucky. Can’t remember the minute but clear as day poor punching it… It’s his play-style to punch instead of catching which isn’t good enough. Not just tonight it’s the whole season
 

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james121bees said:
The one in the first half that he punched out that caused panic which resulted In a forest player going down luckily. Unbelievable he punched that ball we got lucky. Can’t remember the minute but clear as day poor punching it… It’s his play-style to punch instead of catching which isn’t good enough. Not just tonight it’s the whole season
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Do you mean the one that he dived out almost full length to punch clear?
 

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Wilmslow Bee said:
Do you mean the one that he dived out almost full length to punch clear?
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Nope not that one? I meant the one where he clearly should have caught the ball? No in between it’s a common occurrence….
 

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james121bees said:
Nope not that one? I meant the one where he clearly should have caught the ball?
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Must have passed me by then that one. Maybe I'd gone for a piss. ??‍♂️
I agree his tendency is to punch which is fine if it's effective, and I get that some people just don't like it, but I just don't see enough genuine errors to warrant the pile on after every game - including wins where he cost us nothing at all.

How busy is Vitaly's thread after that first goal?
 

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Wilmslow Bee said:
Must have passed me by then that one. Maybe I'd gone for a piss. ??‍♂️
I agree his tendency is to punch which is fine if it's effective, and I get that some people just don't like it, but I just don't see enough genuine errors to warrant the pile on after every game - including wins where he cost us nothing at all.

How busy is Vitaly's thread after that first goal?
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I simply do not like his punching or standing still conceding. He hasn’t warranted any faults in front of him which a goalkeeper is there for.
Listen to bring Vitaly into the conversation is a bit laughable Vitaly has been solidly reliable so completely scraping the barrel there don’t u think? Flekken certainly hasn’t been reliable
 

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Don’t think he can save any of those goals tonight tbh.

His distribution was exceptional at times. Those little clipped balls over the pressing players are consistently on the money.

Think as Toney plays more ans well, and especially when we get more pace in and around him (e.g Mbeumo, Wissa, Schade) then those accurate long balls we saw glimpses of are going to get more frequent and more effective.

I’ll say as well seemed very focused and alert in and around the box.

For someone who’s obviously taken a confidence knock he did well.

Maybe if he pulled off some more “camera” saves as it would get people off his back but I don’t think that’s the best way to measure the quality of a goalkeeper.
 

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His distribution, at times was excellent, clearing quickly, obviously helps having IT up front, as the target.
 
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