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Let’s turn this round : Jensen / Damsgaard / choose your midfielder didn’t go into a 50/50 challenge because of the risk of injury … and the oppo went on and scored - they would get slaughtered on here!
And let’s be clear, the club don’t pay players a fortune based on their ability to stay safe. They pay them to contribute to positive results: assisting goals, scoring goals, preventing goals etc.
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

My point is keepers look like dickheads when they dive for balls they have no chance in saving, it may appease a few fans "oooh at least he made an effort )yeah, he was 12 foot from it)" , but why risk injury just for the cameras?
Thats the point with Turner for Maupays goal - he looks stupid.
I admire your tenacity! I have given up arguing with these so called supporters who cannot accept that we no longer have a world class goal keeper just an ordinary one. Their tiresome posts are both boring, and pathetic.
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

I’m still not convinced his weight distribution is right. Is he choosing not to dive or is he unable to because of how he plants his feet?
No where near as bad as Simon Moore was defending his near post…
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

Of course every Bees fan wants Flekken do do well. But, imo, he does not inspire confidence, he does not come for crosses, his positioning is somtimes poor and he punches rather than catches
He must also be the most static goalkeeper I have seen in the PL.
Pretty much every goal conceded he remains completely rooted to the turf.
I really think we need better....
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

Of course every Bees fan wants Flekken do do well. But, imo, he does not inspire confidence, he does not come for crosses, his positioning is somtimes poor and he punches rather than catches
He must also be the most static goalkeeper I have seen in the PL.
Pretty much every goal conceded he remains completely rooted to the turf.
I really think we need better....
Agree 100%
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

I have to say that I thought Flekken's distribution was excellent. His confidence will also improve with the win and with our strengthening side.
It will certainly improve with more stability of those around him. Having Reguilón settling in will remove one element of uncertainty across the back line, we’ve got Hickey to return and Nørgaard in front, so (hopefully) a more solid defensive unit, with Toney as the target man up front.
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

I always worry when I see a highlights reel in the chat. For.me Flekken himself has to start laying down some markers. He's an experienced international keeper and he needs to start demonstrating that degree of command. We can say what we want on here but on his admission he's not been delivering to his own high standards yet (see highlights reel).
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

TF is not going to drop him, so we might as well move on and get behind him.. I personally don'tate him as good enough for a Premier League Team. I'm old school so I like my keepers to be OK on crosses, a good shot stopper and good off his line and vocal.
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

I always worry when I see a highlights reel in the chat. For.me Flekken himself has to start laying down some markers. He's an experienced international keeper and he needs to start demonstrating that degree of command. We can say what we want on here but on his admission he's not been delivering to his own high standards yet (see highlights reel).
I kind of agree with this - I would expect more from a Dutch international keeper TBH but he gets way more flak than he should be for goals that are simply not down to him. Judge him all you want but at least have a balanced viewpoint rather than the same rubbish about him not diving when the end outcome would be the same (not aimed at you specifically BTW).
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

I kind of agree with this - I would expect more from a Dutch international keeper TBH but he gets way more flak than he should be for goals that are simply not down to him. Judge him all you want but at least have a balanced viewpoint rather than the same rubbish about him not diving when the end outcome would be the same (not aimed at you specifically BTW).
I think confirmation bias has set in so hard with a number of fans that it’s going to be almost impossible to change (cf. Romaine Sawyers).
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

I think confirmation bias has set in so hard with a number of fans that it’s going to be almost impossible to change (cf. Romaine Sawyers).
Not at fault with either goal!
My concern with MK is his lack of ability to catch the ball or look to dominate his area.
I do not feel very confident with crosses or corners at present. I think this has had some effect on Ethan his year, though he looked better with Mee and Collins. If they can all stay fit with Ajer coming back, the defence should be more solid and hopefully help Mark Flekken’s confidence.
His distribution is mainly good. Some unnecessary passes too close to his own 6 yard box and opposition players.
Toney maybe now provides an alternative outlet.
Come on Mark. Show us what you are made off!!
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

Not at fault with either goal!
My concern with MK is his lack of ability to catch the ball or look to dominate his area.
I do not feel very confident with crosses or corners at present. I think this has had some effect on Ethan his year, though he looked better with Mee and Collins. If they can all stay fit with Ajer coming back, the defence should be more solid and hopefully help Mark Flekken’s confidence.
His distribution is mainly good. Some unnecessary passes too close to his own 6 yard box and opposition players.
Toney maybe now provides an alternative outlet.
Come on Mark. Show us what you are made off!!
Absolutely correct. If the keeper isn’t dominating his 6 yard box it heaps pressure on the defence.
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

Have been loathe to criticise him until now, and maintain he's received ridiculous flak for plenty of goals that have 100% not been his fault.

And realistically I still don't think he'd have saved the first goal -- it was an excellent finish -- but Flekken saw the way it was going (albeit late) and had time to make an attempt to dive for it. At that point, even if you don't think you can save it... just throw yourself at it Mark!

His distribution is excellent, that gets underlined every single week, but he's currently just too lackadaisical on long range efforts.

Really hope it's just a belief/confidence thing and he can pull himself out of it.
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

Too flat footed Brentford ? 'impossible' saves by Flekken


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVvPhlERULY

What a superb reel from his pre-Brentford days! Shows superb agility and great anticipation and positioning as well. If only he could find those again. Shows that he made a lot of saves you would not expect him to make and was a real GK hero. But I have to admit that's such a contrast to his six months here.

Perhaps there's some psychological worries or a background reason for lack of confidence, and I have often wondered if he's also carrying an injury niggle. Even a small tendon or muscle pain would be very restrictive for a goalie with that kind of athleticism.

I really do hope he can get back to those wonderful performances from early last year ? ? I'll be out of my seat applauding if he does, all of us would be... COYB!
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

What a superb reel from his pre-Brentford days! Shows superb agility and great anticipation and positioning as well. If only he could find those again. Shows that he made a lot of saves you would not expect him to make and was a real GK hero. But I have to admit that's such a contrast to his six months here.

Perhaps there's some psychological worries or a background reason for lack of confidence, and I have often wondered if he's also carrying an injury niggle. Even a small tendon or muscle pain would be very restrictive for a goalie with that kind of athleticism.

I really do hope he can get back to those wonderful performances from early last year ? ? I'll be out of my seat applauding if he does, all of us would be... COYB!
So he CAN actually dive then. ?‍♂️
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

He’s a fantastic keeper with his feet but rest of his game is fairly average IMO. Reckon he’s got serious competition with the new Icelandic boy.
Swedish Premier League is bottom end Championship at the very best, the Swedish lad has a lot more to prove to push Flekkin out of top spot.
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

Swedish Premier League is bottom end Championship at the very best, the Swedish lad has a lot more to prove to push Flekkin out of top spot.

Would agree in all other positions except for a keeper, I think he will be challenging Flekken very quickly if he doesn't improve greatly.
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

He’s a fantastic keeper with his feet but rest of his game is fairly average IMO. Reckon he’s got serious competition with the new Icelandic boy.
Not sure how anyone can really make such predictions already ! You don't go from playing in goal in Sweden to the PL so quickly imo
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

Not sure how anyone can really make such predictions already ! You don't go from playing in goal in Sweden to the PL so quickly imo
What’s the point in signing another keeper who is not going to from the off threaten Flekken? We are loaded with keepers and would make absolutely no sense signing another and just stock piling.
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

What’s the point in signing another keeper who is not going to from the off threaten Flekken? We are loaded with keepers and would make absolutely no sense signing another and just stock piling.
Perhaps we think he's good and is available at a good price.
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

What’s the point in signing another keeper who is not going to from the off threaten Flekken? We are loaded with keepers and would make absolutely no sense signing another and just stock piling.
We would not have signed him - assuming we do - if we did not think he is at least good enough to sit on the bench this season and ideally challenge for the position very shortly too. It will also enable us to shed a massive salary for someone who barely contributes.
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

We're unlikely to put a 22 year old who's never played at this level in the team straight away.
Agreed but he’ll be fast tracked and perhaps be next seasons number 1? Time will tell.
what’s the saying if your good enough your old enough.
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

Agreed but he’ll be fast tracked and perhaps be next seasons number 1? Time will tell.
what’s the saying if your good enough your old enough.
I love the way we all think that some other keeper is going to be better than the ones we have.

Like all young players he will be eased into the PL squad and assessed closely over the rest of the season. But,as Les says, you won't be seeing him with his gloves at the Gtech before your summer holidays.
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

Agreed but he’ll be fast tracked and perhaps be next seasons number 1? Time will tell.
what’s the saying if your good enough your old enough.
Clubs do sign players as squad players and I’d imagine this is what we’ve done
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

Agreed but he’ll be fast tracked and perhaps be next seasons number 1? Time will tell.
what’s the saying if your good enough your old enough.
Regardless of Flekken’s perceived performances, no player should ever be fast tracked. Unless you’re buying a player who has clearly been bought with intention of starting (reflected in inflated price) a player should only be starting XI through their own merit not because you don’t like whoever currently has that role.
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

I’m still not convinced his weight distribution is right. Is he choosing not to dive or is he unable to because of how he plants his feet?
I was trying to see his foot balance from Saturday but could not see a long enough clip to see all of his movement from the knee down.
Unbalanced, not on the balls of his feet. Even moving to much up and down, if your feet are off the ground because you are making small jumps try to be alert you have to come down again to move. All micro seconds but all make the difference
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

The Turkish lad for one.
Are you comparing the signing of a 18 year old who has a handful of first team appearances to a 22 year old who has loads of first team appearances?

This guy is the same age as Daniel Bentley was when we signed him and is coming to compete for the number 1 jersey once he's settled in and got used to us.
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

Swedish Premier League is bottom end Championship at the very best, the Swedish lad has a lot more to prove to push Flekkin out of top spot.
That's funny I thought he was Icelandic!
This team was built on stats, period, we all know that.
Sometimes it goes wrong we know that too
I don't rate Flekkon but that's just my opinion but the stats speak for themselves
How many clean sheets this year Ans= 3, all season out of 20 games played
Second bottom in % saves made
Okay, the defence has to answer for some of it but how much is due to lack of confidence in Flekkon?
We've signed this kid from the Swedish league, I trust in the team to know what they're doing.
Flekkon will be gone next season of that I'm certain
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

That's funny I thought he was Icelandic!
This team was built on stats, period, we all know that.
Sometimes it goes wrong we know that too
I don't rate Flekkon but that's just my opinion but the stats speak for themselves
How many clean sheets this year Ans= 3, all season out of 20 games played
Second bottom in % saves made
Okay, the defence has to answer for some of it but how much is due to lack of confidence in Flekkon?
We've signed this kid from the Swedish league, I trust in the team to know what they're doing.
Flekkon will be gone next season of that I'm certain
You're cheerful and positive!

I still have high hopes that he will come good after a sticky start.

You don't become a bad player overnight and he was certainly excellent for Freiburg.
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

That's funny I thought he was Icelandic!
This team was built on stats, period, we all know that.
Sometimes it goes wrong we know that too
I don't rate Flekkon but that's just my opinion but the stats speak for themselves
How many clean sheets this year Ans= 3, all season out of 20 games played
Second bottom in % saves made
Okay, the defence has to answer for some of it but how much is due to lack of confidence in Flekkon?
We've signed this kid from the Swedish league, I trust in the team to know what they're doing.
Flekkon will be gone next season of that I'm certain
Okay now compare his stats in the bundesliga, rated as one of the best based on stats. So on your theory of stats he's very good. Just been unlucky so far, looks lack of confidence.
The guy needs time to settle hasn't had the same defence Infront of him two games on the bounce.
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

Okay now compare his stats in the bundesliga, rated as one of the best based on stats. So on your theory of stats he's very good. Just been unlucky so far, looks lack of confidence.
The guy needs time to settle hasn't had the same defence Infront of him two games on the bounce.
true. only half a season thus far.

undoubted strengths but has weaknesses to overcome.

Alex Runarson, another Icelandic keeper, was signed by The Arse for £3m on the recommendation of our former keeper coach, hasn't overcome the weaknesses in his game. Previously with Reykjavik in his home country and Nordsjaelland in Denmark, Alex is also excellent with the ball at his feet. But not a PL keeper.
 

Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

That's funny I thought he was Icelandic!
This team was built on stats, period, we all know that.
Sometimes it goes wrong we know that too
I don't rate Flekkon but that's just my opinion but the stats speak for themselves
How many clean sheets this year Ans= 3, all season out of 20 games played
Second bottom in % saves made
Okay, the defence has to answer for some of it but how much is due to lack of confidence in Flekkon?
We've signed this kid from the Swedish league, I trust in the team to know what they're doing.
Flekkon will be gone next season of that I'm certain
If you are going to continually criticise a player at least have the decency to get their name right...
 
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