Mark Flekken (Closed Thread)

[favershambee]

Never been a fan for booing players especially when the team are going through a difficult spell and need the support and encouragement from the fans.
May I suggest that those fans who like to BOO go down the road to watch that S--- .

 

[Bigbee]

feck me this is a zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz thread . Leave the man alone !

 

[Alex]

…after Hickey had messed up initially anyway.

The flip side in that game was the harshly disallowed goal which would well and truly have been his fault.

Small margins, Clive.

Harshly disallowed? Wilson had his arm over the top of Flekken's pulling his arm down.

 

[Isleworth_Bee]

…after Hickey had messed up initially anyway.

The flip side in that game was the harshly disallowed goal which would well and truly have been his fault.

Small margins, Clive.

Nonsense.

 

[JasonBee]

Harshly disallowed? Wilson had his arm over the top of Flekken's pulling his arm down.

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Should have just barged the player out the way. That 6 yard box belongs to the keeper. from memory ref signalled a goal. Crowded box, if var doesn’t have good angle that goal gets given?‍

 

[Isleworth_Bee]

Should have just barged the player out the way. That 6 yard box belongs to the keeper. from memory ref signalled a goal. Crowded box, if var doesn’t have good angle that goal gets given?‍

But it doesnt matter because................ IT WAS A FOUL. And VAR had the angle so your point has no substance.

Barge the player out of the way and give away a penalty. Righto.

 

[JasonBee]

But it doesnt matter because................ IT WAS A FOUL. And VAR had the angle so your point has no substance.

Barge the player out of the way and give away a penalty. Righto.

someone touches your arm and you don’t shunt the player to punch it away ; is weak. He didn’t KNOW VAR would save him.

 

[Banana]

That 6 yard box belongs to the keeper.

Where does it say this in the laws of the game please?

 

[jlove]

someone touches your arm and you don’t shunt the player to punch it away ; is weak. He didn’t KNOW VAR would save him.

That sounds a bit desperate, to me!

 

[Isleworth_Bee]

someone touches your arm and you don’t shunt the player to punch it away ; is weak. He didn’t KNOW VAR would save him.

Well it did and its a clear foul.

 

[LostBee]

Let us all be honest here, some of our fans decided in pre season that he was no good so use every goal we concede as a stick to beat him with and prove what football geniuses they are.

I had to stand at Tottenham and listen to some **** nearby slate everything he did for the entire game, including giving him stick when he was down injured.

He's had a tough time since he joined, no question there, but he's going to be our goalkeeper until the end of the season at the very least so lets get behind the bloke and stop picking holes in him every f***ing week eh.

 

[JasonBee]

Well it did and its a clear foul.

i commented on something that happened months ago and is irrelevant now and he had a decent game against Newcastle.

but when you are relying on a VAR team that gave a penalty against us for Gordon jumping over Flekken it’s a fine line.

 

[gordonbankole]

Harshly disallowed? Wilson had his arm over the top of Flekken's pulling his arm down.

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Everyone can have their views here.

Personally I thought it was very weak goalkeeping (i.e. a guy built like a brick outhouse was made to look very weak). Some would argue cheap free kick, others would argue goal.

His performance in the second half that day was the worst I have seen from a Brentford goalkeeper since Bentley’s season of horrors. But that’s my view.

For what it’s worth, I couldn’t believe the stick he took after Forest when he didn’t have a prayer with either goal.

 

[North London Bee]

I think we are going to see a vast improvement now in his confidence and overall performances.

 

[badgerbee]

Turning this conversation round a bit.
There has been debate (not agreement) on how many of the goals we've let in this season have been Flekken's "fault". I'd argue very few, if any.
But how many absolute "howlers" has MF committed this season? Compared, for example to the likes of Onana, Raya, Turner, Becker, Kelleher, Martinez, Sa, Pope?

For a clue, look here:

Premier League Player Stats - Errors leading to goal

View Errors leading to goal played by Premier League players for 2018/19 and previous seasons, on the official website of the Premier League.

www.premierleague.com

And I know stats sometimes lie, but I'd agree with that for Flekken....

Add another 1 each to Raya and Alisson.....

 

[HantsBee]

Add another 1 each to Raya and Kelleher.....

It was Allison not Kelleher.

 

[badgerbee]

It was Allison not Kelleher.

Oops yeah, of course. ?

 

[BFC1997]

Love to know what people would be saying about Flekken if he’d conceded that Trossard goal Allison just conceded…..

Or indeed the one from Raya’s mix up Liverpool scored.

 

[HerefordB]

I think we are going to see a vast improvement now in his confidence and overall performances.

One swallow does not a summer make.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

One swallow does not a summer make.

Yeh, need to keep hammering him, got to keep him on his toes.

 

[Lionel Bart-At]

Love to know what people would be saying about Flekken if he’d conceded that Trossard goal Allison just conceded…..

Or indeed the one from Raya’s mix up Liverpool scored.

Could yet go down as a van Dijk og, imo.

 

[magicbees]

Love to know what people would be saying about Flekken if he’d conceded that Trossard goal Allison just conceded…..

Or indeed the one from Raya’s mix up Liverpool scored.

Love to know what people would be saying about Flekken if he’d conceded that Trossard goal Allison just conceded…..

Or indeed the one from Raya’s mix up Liverpool scored.

That's the defenders fault all day long for me, he's in control of the situation and should deal with the issue. If the keeper is not coming only one place that goes row Z.

 

[BFC1997]

That's the defenders fault all day long for me

Of course, because it’s only Flekken that gets blamed for every goal his team concedes.

 

[aawharris]

Everyone can have their views here.

Personally I thought it was very weak goalkeeping (i.e. a guy built like a brick outhouse was made to look very weak). Some would argue cheap free kick, others would argue goal.

His performance in the second half that day was the worst I have seen from a Brentford goalkeeper since Bentley’s season of horrors. But that’s my view.

For what it’s worth, I couldn’t believe the stick he took after Forest when he didn’t have a prayer with either goal.

What i reckon is, in boxing, the oppositions corner men should be allowed to hold down the boxers arms, then when they cant punch or block, get knocked out, should be told to man up and grow a pair.

 

[Smythy17]

Where I'm stood in the West Stand Flekken gets hammered from a number of fans throughout the game.

I did enjoy a fan last time though shouting "stop playing from the back! It's never worked!"... Immediately Flekken's playing from the back broke the press and led to a chance.
Same fan: "Okay, fine, it does work... but it scares the sh** out of me every time!"

 

[brentford born & bred]

Where I'm stood in the West Stand Flekken gets hammered from a number of fans throughout the game.

I did enjoy a fan last time though shouting "stop playing from the back! It's never worked!"... Immediately Flekken's playing from the back broke the press and led to a chance.
Same fan: "Okay, fine, it does work... but it scares the sh** out of me every time!"

After 75 years outside the top division some fans need a few season to adjust to top level football. They will get it eventually but at least they can't be accussed of being new Brentford ?.

 

[ruislip bee]

After 75 years outside the top division some fans need a few season to adjust to top level football. They will get it eventually but at least they can't be accussed of being new Brentford ?.

No no no - when in doubt boot it out! Always worked in Div 4. I loved Gelson Higginson and Hawley!

 

[gordonbankole]

What i reckon is, in boxing, the oppositions corner men should be allowed to hold down the boxers arms, then when they cant punch or block, get knocked out, should be told to man up and grow a pair.

Oh yes, analogies from other sports (completely unconnected) are really going to work as a strong argument. Congratulations on your profundity.

What I reckon is if you are 6ft 5 or whatever MF is, someone like Wilson should just be cleaned out if you are a goalkeeper who dominates his six-yard box. His starting position was weak in my view and it was all a bit of a mess.

It is a touch ironic that your opinion of his performances seems to be a lot higher than his own which he voiced in that interview.

Once again, I do not like the way he was slagged off after the Forest game as he did not have a prayer on either goal. That is when the criticism goes way too far.

However, that second half against Newcastle he was very “flappy” and unconvincing - the disallowed goal was just one example of this.

 

[North London Bee]

Oh yes, analogies from other sports (completely unconnected) are really going to work as a strong argument. Congratulations on your profundity.

What I reckon is if you are 6ft 5 or whatever MF is, someone like Wilson should just be cleaned out if you are a goalkeeper who dominates his six-yard box. His starting position was weak in my view and it was all a bit of a mess.

It is a touch ironic that your opinion of his performances seems to be a lot higher than his own which he voiced in that interview.

Once again, I do not like the way he was slagged off after the Forest game as he did not have a prayer on either goal. That is when the criticism goes way too far.

However, that second half against Newcastle he was very “flappy” and unconvincing - the disallowed goal was just one example of this.

Why don’t we all look forward now rather than keep harking back with monotonous regularity. We all know what’s happened previously.

What only matters now is how he performs tomorrow night and in subsequent games.

 

[badgerbee]

That's the defenders fault all day long for me, he's in control of the situation and should deal with the issue. If the keeper is not coming only one place that goes row Z.

A bit like the Flekken/Hickey (?) cock up that resulted in the penalty v Newcastle......
For which Flekken got most of the blame, IIRC......

 

[David Brentford]

I wonder if we’ll deliberately go longer from the back tomorrow?

 

[HerefordB]

Yeh, need to keep hammering him, got to keep him on his toes.

Yep. Gets paid a shed load of money to stop a football getting past him. I'm sure he can take it. If not, tough.

 

[Doovster]

Yep. Gets paid a shed load of money to stop a football getting past him. I'm sure he can take it. If not, tough.

I'm all for respecting opinions but what a sh1t attitude towards one of our own players.

 

[badgerbee]

Yep. Gets paid a shed load of money to stop a football getting past him. I'm sure he can take it. If not, tough.

Nice. ?

 

[North London Bee]

Yep. Gets paid a shed load of money to stop a football getting past him. I'm sure he can take it. If not, tough.

Sounds like you can’t wait for him to screw up so you can say you were right. How petty and self defeating is that?

A fifth column in our midst.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Yep. Gets paid a shed load of money to stop a football getting past him. I'm sure he can take it. If not, tough.

Lol You're showing the form that gets you ignored in the match day threads.

 

[JANORAK]

I wonder if we’ll deliberately go longer from the back tomorrow?

I think we normally try to against them. I hope so anyway, otherwise we’ll spend the whole game in our penalty area!

 

[vcmazz]

I think we normally try to against them. I hope so anyway, otherwise we’ll spend the whole game in our penalty area!

Well about two thirds of it. We'll spend the other third kicking off.

 

[JANORAK]

Well about two thirds of it. We'll spend the other third kicking off.

Pessimist! Only the second half. According to Spuds we spend the first half taking the lead, and then tw*t about enough to really P them off for the second…

 

[magicbees]

No no no - when in doubt boot it out! Always worked in Div 4. I loved Gelson Higginson and Hawley!

That's the way I was bought up, don't score many from row Z. Can argue while they get the ball back.

 

[taxi driver]

I think we are going to see a vast improvement now in his confidence and overall performances.

Why?

 

[jlove]

Re

Why?

Reguilón should improve our defence by 20% and stabilise the whole defensive unit.

 

[taxi driver]

Re

Reguilón should improve our defence by 20% and stabilise the whole defensive unit.

??

 

[smiffy superbee]

A glory night for you Flek ..... Surprises so many doubters on here!

 

[badgerbee]

Not out warming up.....

 

[JANORAK]

Not out warming up.....

The bowling wasn’t much though really…

 

[Downbeat Bee]

Sky drawing a comparison with Raya using a wall of graphics.

 

[BigMarv]

 

[Untouchable]

Assist against Manchester City.

Get f***ed haters.

 

[Twyford Bee]

26 minutes in. I'm calling it. 6 saves and an assist. Flekken is better than Raya