He was very good today but made a mistake for the goal. I think if Ben Mee was playing, we don’t concede that goal. Collins gives us better balance in possession, but I think Mee is the better defender. It’s a tough call but I still think Pinnock and Mee is our strongest CB pairing in a back 4.
It's a tough call for sure for TF to make. Both have been great signings.
True, but Mee is more solid defensively and brings leadership. I think it’ll be decided on a match by match basis. Maybe Collins at home, Mee away and both when we play 3 CBs against the big 6. Collins was great today but let’s not forget how great Mee was all last season.
Maybe Nathan hasn't heard it!
I think the defence looks a totally different proposition with the Collins/Pinnock partnership. Much better balanced, much more comfortable playing out. Going to be very difficult for Mee to get back in unless we go 3 again..
I just can't agree. Collins look a fantastic prospect and I think we'll see a wonderful defender develop over the coming years. But no way is he good enough to keep Ben Mee out. In the last two games, Collins has performed superbly but has made horrible howlers in both matches. Against Fulham he misjudged a long ball, let it bounce over his head and fortunately we got away with it. Yesterday, he clearly blundered for the goal. You can see Norgaard hold his hands up as if to say "your ball Nathan" and he let it go, in his own six-yard box, and we conceded.
I can't see how Mee fails to get into any team. Even Southgate's.
Collins/Mee is a good problem to have.
Sounds like the majority of players, both past and present, to be honest. As most spectators follow the action where the ball is any mistake is obvious and mistakes that occur closer to the team’s goal are magnified. Conversely, the defensive team and goalkeeper shouldn’t make too many as it’s their job to not allow the opposition chances, which as we all know the better the opposition the more chances they are likely to get. I’m sure over time Collins will develop his game to a higher level once he really settles into playing alongside his teammates. Likewise, the same for Flekken, too. Although their mistake cost us a couple of points yesterday I’m glad it’s happened early in the season so that it can be ironed out in training. I first noticed Collins when he was at Burnley and he looked impressive then even playing a Sean Dyche style of football. With our style of play he will be able to contribute even more.
For me it was mainly Flekken's error. Had he stayed on his line in his goal, Palace wouldn't have scored.
Two new players. If it had been Raya with Mee or Pinnock it wouldn't have happened. But mistakes do with new team mates. It was a shame that's all. Probably won't happen again.
Next game is Newcastle away so he'll be on the right of a three anyway.
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As our record signing and only 22 he’s likely to have a lot of potential!
