I don't see how losing our only ball carrying and thus line breaking CB is anything other than a huge loss irrelevant of Mee's defensive excellence.
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I believe we do but are still waiting for Ghana to pay what’s due when Lloyd got injured playing for them
Agreed. Nathan in pic watching Neil, Thomas, crouch etc playing padel so hopefully weeks means back for Xmas programme given already one week in
He can carry the ball from a deeper position but I've not seen enough in terms of his overall distribution to suggest he matches Nathan's output.
100% agree, Collins is our best playmaker (in terms of passing) from the back and think he has been a real miss. We were crying out on Saturday at Bramall Lane for either Mee and Pinnock to attempt a killer pass or really commit forward from central defence. Collins has made some errors but lI personally think a shoo-in starter when fully fit
I don’t get all the hype over Collins tbh he’s done well but nothing stand out for me, he tried getting forward one game can’t remember which one and lost the ball way to much, I would much rather Ben Mee so shoot me ?
Who’s the future of Brentford?I don’t get all the hype over Collins tbh he’s done well but nothing stand out for me, he tried getting forward one game can’t remember which one and lost the ball way to much, I would much rather Ben Mee so shoot me ?
The Mee / Pinnock partnership works very well. Despite Rico and Hickey missing we don't have any issues in defence. The problem is at the other end of the field.....I don’t get all the hype over Collins tbh he’s done well but nothing stand out for me, he tried getting forward one game can’t remember which one and lost the ball way to much, I would much rather Ben Mee so shoot me ?
Agree with the 3rd paragraph, Collins is the future yes but people keep saying how much we miss him getting forward, one game at home he tried this and lost the ball allot, i prefer the old school defending if in doubt get it out and clear your lines which we all know Ben does effortlessly.
Where do you want the bullet?I don’t get all the hype over Collins tbh he’s done well but nothing stand out for me, he tried getting forward one game can’t remember which one and lost the ball way to much, I would much rather Ben Mee so shoot me ?
Who got the assist for Bryan’s equaliser v Bournemouth? Modern centre backs do more than just defend.
Mee is limited on the ball and also means Pinnock has to play on his weaker side. Collins (and Ajer) is going to be absolutely integral to our team if we want to start playing better football, hence the incredibly long contract we gave him
It did last season for sure but not so sure this season. We’ve got 4 points from the 7 games Mee has started this season, and they were Bournemouth at home (subbed off for Collins at 2-1 down) and Luton at home. Statistically a lot better so far this season with Collins and Pinnock.
I don’t get all the hype over Collins tbh he’s done well but nothing stand out for me, he tried getting forward one game can’t remember which one and lost the ball way to much, I would much rather Ben Mee so shoot me ?
I just think Ben Mee is the better defender and feel Hickey Mee Pinnock Henry is our best defence Collins gets forward yes but sometimes is very sloppy with his passes, I prefer Bens old style of defending doing all the simple stuff well …
Last season I would agree based on what we’ve seen so far, but think this season Ben’s slowed down a bit IMO. Collins will be a great player for us for years to come ??
Agree. Collins will do us great service and if/when he eventually leaves we will get am amazing fee, the Brentford way init ?
I'm not doubting Collins will be a decent player for us just prefer Mee lol he has been injured a while and only just come back...
It's not that we miss him being forwards, it's that we miss him getting it (the ball) forwards & into good areas
He definitely takes risks, but that's exactly what we're missing the last few games. It's all too slow and simple
Mees use of the ball is at times very poor when looking to play forward. Collins is by far the better footballer out of the two. Mee is so solid but in the long run Collins will benefit us more. The last two games have highlighted that.
Why do you keep on about ‘old school defending’? Do you mean lower league defending because the concept of the ball playing centre back has been a feature of top sides since the days of the Libero role.
I think it would be more of " fit again ready to go again tomorrow ! "
I think we really underestimate how having Ethan on the right affects the balance of the team. It makes it too easy for the opposition to press, especially with no outlet on Rico on the left. Having Collins, or Ajer, on the right changes that.
Played there pretty much all last season. It’s the outlet of Rico we miss most
The Bs group in Nice today included Ji-Soo, Fredric & Arthur, so he must at least be a sub tomorrow.
