Nathan Collins

Nathan Collins

We brought him on to add a bit of beef to the melees! I can’t recall him using his sixfootfouredness at all in what remained of the game. Do we practice our ‘handbags’ tactics? I ask because he and several others went in chest first, ie arms by their sides.
 

Nathan Collins

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Nathan Collins

Martinez sh*t himself when he saw Collins coming for him.?
I remember him running over with his hands behind his back ? Ghoddos is the funniest he was loving it
 

Nathan Collins

With Mee suspended, real opportunity for Collins to cement himself as a permanent member of the back 4 lineup over Mee. I think he's the better option as he's the best at moving the ball by a significant amount of the CBs, with the possible exception of Ajer. But Ajer will probably be playing RB once he is healthy anyway, due to all the injuries that we've seen there.
 

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A mate of mine who follows the Irish national soccer side told me Collins is a calamity waiting to happen and is an absolute liability couldn't believe we spunked 20 odd million on him. The signs are he was right. Sadly we don't seem to have better in the squad unless we sign someone new in the window
 

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Had two great games against Chelsea and West Ham before his injury. Maybe we’ve brought him back too early or maybe I’m just looking for excuses
 

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I’m never normally this passionately negative. But drop him for a long f***ing while, disgraceful game from a premier league footballer.
 

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Fair enough if this was a one off. What is more concerning is Wolves fans saying this is the norm.
 

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I assume you're a social media obsessive? You might want to try using your own eyes and judgement.

You assume wrong. Sorry. Wolves fans I spoke to at the pub who have seen him play in more live games (a full season) than I have this far.
 

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Very bad today but would say that he is a kid really. 22 years old for a centre half is nothing. Where was Ethan at that age? Where was van Dijk?
Not having a go, but you can’t compare Ethan to Nathan in that way. We bought Ethan from Barnsley for around 4 mill or something after he had already impressed for them. He’s worked his way up and has acclimatised to the Prem spectacularly.

it’s not Nathan’s fault he’s our record singing. But he is. There’s an expectation I think he has some great attributes, but there have been causes for concern already this season.
 

Nathan Collins

A mate of mine who follows the Irish national soccer side told me Collins is a calamity waiting to happen and is an absolute liability couldn't believe we spunked 20 odd million on him. The signs are he was right. Sadly we don't seem to have better in the squad unless we sign someone new in the window
Zanka would have been.
 

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Thomas Frank definitely has his work cut out with Nathan in training this week.

I'm glad TF will getting in his ear instead of any of us fans though!
Thomas put his arm around him at full time. They both know that tonight was not what Nathan is about. He will be back and better for this experience in the long run
 

Nathan Collins

A mate of mine who follows the Irish national soccer side told me Collins is a calamity waiting to happen and is an absolute liability couldn't believe we spunked 20 odd million on him. The signs are he was right. Sadly we don't seem to have better in the squad unless we sign someone new in the window
He is 22. He will develop. Our coaches will see to that. Tonight will probably turn out to be his worst ever game in a Bees shirt.
 

Nathan Collins

The worst individual performance by a Brentford player since we got into the Premier League. I’m absolutely fuming at him gifting his ex-employers goals three f***ing times ? Hope I can calm down at some point.
 

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I think the first Collins needs to do for a reset is when you get the ball play it forward, hoof it to avoid being high pressed. No player has eyes in the back of their heads so keep it simple
 

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He had had some very good performance this season and some stinkers (tonight/ Everton). His concentration levels for me are a big worry. As a centre half, you can’t be putting in 2/10 performances, as you will get punished. Can he play consistently in a back 4?
 

Nathan Collins

I can’t remember the last time one of our players looked like he wanted the ground to swallow him up. Not good to see in various senses.
 

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His mistakes were so bad they were laughable ... in about 20 years time when we're looking back on worst individual performances on whatever passes for the gpg in 2043.
 

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He doesn’t hide but he just makes too many mistakes. Tonight was shocking.
 

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Collins picked up about 32 grand for that woeful performance. Heres a suggestion nathan - how about you buy everyone travelling to palace 3 pints each to make up for it? Will settle for stoppage time winner.
 

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That will be a really tough one to bounce back from.

As others have said above - the worst individual performance for a long time. Wolves will feel they've had our pants down and laughing all the way to the bank.
 

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Record signing can't pass the ball back to his own keeper. A seriously big downgrade on Pontus for HUGE fee.
Pontus joined us at 28 after being the Leeds captain. The £5.5m we paid for him was pretty much a HUGE fee at the time as well.

Nathan is only 22. Tonight was bad, he'll know that more than we do. You can't magic up 6 years extra experience out of nowhere though.
 

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A more likeable guy and obviously at a much higher level but he reminds me a little of Harlee Dean. Sort of more of a footballer playing in defence than a defender, if you know what I mean?

Got more-or-less all the attributes to be a good modern CB, except for out-and-out pace. Size, height, aerial strength, very ambitious (and capable) on the ball, forward thinking.

But doesn’t (yet - at least) have that defenders instinct of sniffing danger. Hence, sometimes you get those moments where his relentless attempts at being progressive in possession can go wrong in a big big way. A hospital pass, or being caught up the pitch. Doesn’t happen every game but it costs you points when it does happen.

The alternative in our squad would be a Ben Mee; classic defender with exceptional instincts but very risk-averse on the ball and you end up having to sit deeper and go more direct with that kind of CB. Makes every game a bit more of a struggle but does at least reliably do the basics.

Difference is that Ben Mee is 34 and in his final 6 months whereas Collins is 23 and on a long term deal. We had similar problems when phasing out Tony Craig for Dean & Tarky in L1/Champ, sometimes the defending was not great. Ultimately it was for the best though. So long as we don’t go down, I think we should persevere with NC and hope that in time - and with experience - he can develop that “instinct” and these howlers get ironed out.
 

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His mistakes happen and he did three in one game but I'd rather he did that in one game than 3 mistakes in 3 games but what pissed me off the most was that header chance he had from 3 yards out that he should have buried. Could have been a different game.

He is 22 - at 22 I know what I was doing and hopefully with the guidance from Ben Mee and Pinnock around him he will learn from tonight. He better.
 

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I can’t remember the last time one of our players looked like he wanted the ground to swallow him up. Not good to see in various senses.
I thought the same while he was on the post-match walkabout. Clapping the fans but his eyes focused on the ground in front of him. He knows he messed up big time. How you cope with, and come back from, adversity can make or break you. Keeping them crossed he comes back from this stronger and proves his worth to all of us.
 
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