Rico Henry

Rico Henry

TadB said:
Would appear to be policy and cost plus availability.
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To be fair we've spent over 100 mill on players since Jan. So asking for a PL ready LB or RB or even a loan player wasn't a stretch. Instead we have spent 10 million on a player, who isnt good enough to start over a CB playing out of position.
 

Rico Henry

BAGSHOTBEE said:
To be fair we've spent over 100 mill on players since Jan. So asking for a PL ready LB or RB or even a loan player wasn't a stretch. Instead we have spent 10 million on a player who isnt ready to start.
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ISTR the Club, in the close season, expected Henry to be ready for or close to pre-season so it was entirely reasonable to be recruiting a potential successor. 20-20 hindsight is great, though.
 

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BAGSHOTBEE said:
To be fair we've spent over 100 mill on players since Jan. So asking for a PL ready LB or RB or even a loan player wasn't a stretch. Instead we have spent 10 million on a player who isnt ready to start.
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Clearly it WAS a stretch. They don't grow on trees y'know. Just look at who else is playing full back in the bottom half of the Prem...

10m on Megsy? Not sure that's accurate...

This news about Rico is sad though. Unbelievable if there was a feck up behind the scenes. With this and England, it's getting really tiring seeing square pegs in round holes on the left side - i just prefer the balance with a leftie there, even if he's not quite of the same standard. Hard to imagine he could be much worse than Roerslev's current form though. Hope Ajer is back for Saturday at least...
 

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Mr Tree said:
Clearly it WAS a stretch. They don't grow on trees y'know. Just look at who else is playing full back in the bottom half of the Prem...

10m on Megsy? Not sure that's accurate...

This news about Rico is sad though. Unbelievable if there was a feck up behind the scenes. With this and England, it's getting really tiring seeing square pegs in round holes on the left side - i just prefer the balance with a leftie there, even if he's not quite of the same standard. Hard to imagine he could be much worse than Roerslev's current form though. Hope Ajer is back for Saturday at least...
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well it was 5 mill plus another 5 mill in add ons. Guess he's not getting much of a chance to earn the add ons!
 

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BAGSHOTBEE said:
To be fair we've spent over 100 mill on players since Jan. So asking for a PL ready LB or RB or even a loan player wasn't a stretch. Instead we have spent 10 million on a player, who isnt good enough to start over a CB playing out of position.
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I'm sure we've been told that Meghoma's fee was nowhere near £10m - that's simply the total potential outlay including add ons.
 

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TadB said:
Surely if the ‘kid’ was up to the required standard TF would put him on at sometime even if not up to starting. Clearly the coaching staff’s view is that he is not yet ready to make an appearance in the league.
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If you saw him versus SW it is quite clear he is nowhere near ready for the EPL, potential in spades, but nowhere near ready.
 

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Mr Tree said:
Clearly it WAS a stretch. They don't grow on trees y'know. Just look at who else is playing full back in the bottom half of the Prem...

10m on Megsy? Not sure that's accurate...

This news about Rico is sad though. Unbelievable if there was a feck up behind the scenes. With this and England, it's getting really tiring seeing square pegs in round holes on the left side - i just prefer the balance with a leftie there, even if he's not quite of the same standard. Hard to imagine he could be much worse than Roerslev's current form though. Hope Ajer is back for Saturday at least...
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TF does seem reticent to give youngsters a start in the PL. If he can't get a PL run out under present circumstances when can he?
 

Rico Henry

mhead bee said:
If you saw him versus SW it is quite clear he is nowhere near ready for the EPL, potential in spades, but nowhere near ready.
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He was ok not great but no worse than what we have on the other side. He also looked decent against LO. We are happy to give other players who look off the PL mark starts, so why not Meg?
 

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mhead bee said:
If you saw him versus SW it is quite clear he is nowhere near ready for the EPL, potential in spades, but nowhere near ready.
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Sure, but is the alternative better?
 

Rico Henry

BAGSHOTBEE said:
TF does seem reticent to give youngsters a start in the PL. If he can't get a PL run out under present circumstances when can he?
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Next year, etc

But yes, YY aside Thomas does seem a bit wary of throwing young'uns in
 

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Mr Tree said:
Next year, etc

But yes, YY aside Thomas does seem a bit wary of throwing young'uns in
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Everyone screams for the youngsters all the time when we get an injury, as soon as you get to see them play you can see they are a year or two at least away from it.

YY is developing into a class act, but no way was he ready 2 years ago to step in for an injured VJ, CN or MJ for half a season, which is what he would need to be
 

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BAGSHOTBEE said:
He was ok not great but no worse than what we have on the other side. He also looked decent against LO. We are happy to give other players who look off the PL mark starts, so why not Meg?
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Completely disagree, he did not have any of the composure or confidence of vdb VJ or Ayer. He was always looking to play safe and not make a mistake, toward the end when SW upped the tempo he made several mistakes and was sensibly taken out of the firing line by Frank

What other 18 year olds with no previous experience have we given EPL starts to?

we are not talking 10 mins, you are asking him to step in for 5-10 games

As for being better than the other side, Mads has hundreds of first team appearance and 3.5 seasons of epl football under his belt. How can an 18 year old kid who has never played at level be considered a better option.
 

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Is this the Rico Henry thread? or the Bournemouth predictions thread? or the Meghoma thread?
 

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mhead bee said:
Completely disagree, he did not have any of the composure or confidence of vdb VJ or Ayer. He was always looking to play safe and not make a mistake, toward the end when SW upped the tempo he made several mistakes and was sensibly taken out of the firing line by Frank

What other 18 year olds with no previous experience have we given EPL starts to?

we are not talking 10 mins, you are asking him to step in for 5-10 games

As for being better than the other side, Mads has hundreds of first team appearance and 3.5 seasons of epl football under his belt. How can an 18 year old kid who has never played at level be considered a better option.
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His age shouldn't come into it if he's good enough. As for lack of experience, how else does he get a chance to get any? Clearly you dont think hes good enough and MR is a better option with a CB playing out of position. Something that has looked dire already. Lets see what TF does Sat. I wouldn't be surprised if we see his name on the start sheet if Ajer is still out.
 

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BAGSHOTBEE said:
His age shouldn't come into it if he's good enough. As for lack of experience, how else does he get a chance to get any? Clearly you dont think hes good enough and MR is a better option with a CB playing out of position. Something that has looked dire already. Lets see what TF does Sat. I wouldn't be surprised if we see his name on the start sheet if Ajer is still out.
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Sorry, last post on this before Banana bans me.

Of course his age come into it, his age is directly proportional to his experience, name one other 18 year old thrust into the defence of a defensively fragile team when his only prior experience is 2 appearances against a league 1 team.

MR isn’t the answer to any of our problems, but to suggest an 18 year old who hasn’t played a single game yet is better then one who has 5 years first team experience in the best league in the world is utterly ridiculous.

We know what TF does Saturday, he plays VDB there who was superb against Fulham.
 

Rico Henry

BAGSHOTBEE said:
He was ok not great but no worse than what we have on the other side. He also looked decent against LO. We are happy to give other players who look off the PL mark starts, so why not Meg?
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Because he’s a kid with no Prem experience who we’ve signed as cover and who they see every day in training.
Given how we have struggled down our left do you think if he was better than we have they wouldn’t put him in?
We didn’t lose Monday because of the left back and we haven’t lost a game at home yet so it’s hardly a crisis?
Seems to be a huge over reaction, we know the forecast return dates for both Hickey and Rico were horribly wrong after unforeseen set backs but it hasn’t seen us struggling to stay out of the relegation slots and if Rico is back before Christmas what’s the point of rushing a teenager in who isn’t ready ?
 

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Les Beeavinu said:
I don't really recall the several mistakes tbh. He looked perfectly at home in the first half.
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He tired second half as you’d expect. A few loose balls but nothing serious and he was defending right in front of me 2nd half
 

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Gee Bee said:
He tired second half as you’d expect. A few loose balls but nothing serious and he was defending right in front of me 2nd half
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Right in front of me first half and he looked very comfortable.
 

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sonofabee said:
what’s the point of rushing a teenager in who isn’t ready ?
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- He might be ready (do take the point though that Tommy etc see them more than we do)
- Balance
- The alternative is off-form and lacking confidence
 

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mhead bee said:
Sorry, last post on this before Banana bans me.

Of course his age come into it, his age is directly proportional to his experience, name one other 18 year old thrust into the defence of a defensively fragile team when his only prior experience is 2 appearances against a league 1 team.

MR isn’t the answer to any of our problems, but to suggest an 18 year old who hasn’t played a single game yet is better then one who has 5 years first team experience in the best league in the world is utterly ridiculous.

We know what TF does Saturday, he plays VDB there who was superb against Fulham.
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I'd never in a million years accuse you of exaggerating, but Sheff Wed are in the Championship and Brentford haven't even had 5yrs prem experience yet, so how Roerslev squeezed in some extra I'm not quite sure ;)
 

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Mr Tree said:
I'd never in a million years accuse you of exaggerating, but Sheff Wed are in the Championship and Brentford haven't even had 5yrs prem experience yet, so how Roerslev squeezed in some extra I'm not quite sure ;)
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yep wrong on both points, which means the whole post is built on hyperbole.
 

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In Rico's absence we should give young Meghoma a run I say. A grasp of positional play is so important for FBs and it's typically the weak spot for non-FBs substituting in that role.
 

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W5BeesFan said:
In Rico's absence we should give young Meghoma a run I say. A grasp of positional play is so important for FBs and it's typically the weak spot for non-FBs substituting in that role.
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assume you're late to this thread :rolleyes: ..100% not a new suggestion but thanks
 

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BAGSHOTBEE said:
To be fair we've spent over 100 mill on players since Jan. So asking for a PL ready LB or RB or even a loan player wasn't a stretch. Instead we have spent 10 million on a player, who isnt good enough to start over a CB playing out of position.
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I get the point you are labouring but I trust the guys whose money it is, the guy who has managed us brilliantly and the amazing DOF rather than someone who loves a moan
 

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Jam Jar said:
Im also in favour of giving meghoma some minutes, if he doesnt play how is he supposed to develop? By playing 3 cup games a year?
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Indeed, if he never plays PL football then he will never gain any PL experience.
 

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W5BeesFan said:
Shucks I better send my "new suggestion" rosette back then. ?
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I'm personally disappointed that you aren't more up to date with GPG trends. We may have to review your membership.
 

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North London Bee said:
Too true. I believe his wages really stretched us in January but needs must.

We’d more than spent our budget this Summer and the Toney situation also wasn’t sorted until the very last minute. No wonder we passed on Reguilon and didn’t bring in a new right back. We couldn’t afford either.
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Don't accept at all that we couldn't have strengthened at full back in the summer. It's about choices. We chose to spend circa 10m on teenage winger for the future and well over 20m on Carvalho, who doesn't look like a starter atm and no one even seems to see where he'll fit in our system. I'm not criticising either player as an investment, I'm confident they'll both come good, but both look likely to be luxury players rather than essential ones this season.
To me it was always obvious we were neglecting full back positions. Yes, it was expected Hickey and Henry would be back earlier than now but it's not unusual for players who've had long-term major injuries to suffer setbacks. Even if one or other had been back by now we should have signed a left back who was PL ready as back-up, instead of or as well as Meghoma.
This isn't hindsight. I said the same in the summer. We wouldn't leave any other positions on the pitch so down to the bare bones that we've had over a year of players playing out of position at full back.
 

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mhead bee said:
I think we were preparing for the season with both full backs available or close, we have had a double injury whammy on both and I guess they saw an IT replacement as more important then cover at that point, in hindsight I think they would have brought a lefty in for 6 months.
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I suspect you're right - a calculated risk that has unfortunately backfired. It's not a risk I would have taken. At the time I was pleading for more defensive depth and getting howled down for my trouble!
 

Rico Henry

BAGSHOTBEE said:
To be fair we've spent over 100 mill on players since Jan. So asking for a PL ready LB or RB or even a loan player wasn't a stretch. Instead we have spent 10 million on a player, who isnt good enough to start over a CB playing out of position.
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Wages!
 

Rico Henry

North London Bee said:
That’s being clever after the event. I believe that At the time of buying the other players we still thought we’d be seeing Hickey and Henry pretty early in the season. Then things changed.
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We did also go in strong for Archie Gray to break our transfer record and he both played FB for Leeds most of last season but has done so in sub appearances for Spurs this season.
 

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Simon W said:
I wonder if Thomas will mention the set back in todays press conference?
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He’ll need to respond if there’a a specific question… but there may be no detail in his response!
 
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