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readingbee said:
Guess we will have the Uwe out posts when we are not 15 points clear at the top of the league after 4 games ;)
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or one of our strikers hasn't scored in our first 2 games ;)
 

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bennyb said:
an experienced attacking fullback who has won promotion from this league,most excellent . COYB
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Spot on!!
Bidwell would have been nice, but since when does a young loanee do well for us and then return the following season??
Uwe doesn't strike me as signing players on a knee jerk reaction, (Mr Grella being the possible exception) so i'm guessing that Scott would have been on his radar.
Hopefully this is our defence now sorted, and with a bit of backup in the striker department, who knows what could happen this season.

;)
 

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Stanley said:
Not first choice I am sure but sounds solid enough. UR likes his full backs/ wings back with pace so I guess he fits the bill especially if we start playing 3-5-2. Sounds like another version of Logan without the haircut...
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If we do play 3-5-2 with only 3 CB's on the books,not including Mawson who probably isn't ready,then we defo need another central defender i'd have thought.
 

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So Barron was at best fourth choice behind Bidwell, Vignal and McGivern. Ouch.

Still he looks a decent signing.
 

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I'm happy with Him played a few game in the championship got out this leauge and is a good age .
 

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Ambrose_1889 said:
So Barron was at best fourth choice behind Bidwell, Vignal and McGivern. Ouch.

Still he looks a decent signing.
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I'm pleased we had 4 or 5 irons in the fire. It's not easy convincing players to sign and I think you need multiple targets in all positions.

As it happens I think we've done well signing an experienced LB who's a good age and been there, seen it and done it at this level.
 

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I think its strange that with all their dosh City still wouldn't accept our offer for a player who I doubt will grace their first team many times. How much did they want? *****.
 

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absenteebee said:
I think its strange that with all their dosh City still wouldn't accept our offer for a player who I doubt will grace their first team many times. How much did they want? *****.
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Reading the press release it looks more like it was the player who didn't want to come here or couldn't agree personal terms rather than anything City were asking for the player:(
 
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Ambrose_1889 said:
So Barron was at best fourth choice behind Bidwell, Vignal and McGivern. Ouch.

Still he looks a decent signing.
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Not sure there was a written down list, in order but Rosler + Warburton possibly came up with 7 or 8 names + worked on them in turn.
 

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On paper, he seems like a good signing: experience at this level + championship, and seems to be the sort of attacking FB or wing-back who should fit our system. If I had a reservation about getting him rather than Bidwell, it might be the cost (transfer fee? plus presumably high-ish wages) leaving us with less for the extra striker we so urgently need
 

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I can't believe everyone on here has written him off already.

Reality check guys.

:fishing: :confused:
 

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Balders Bee said:
Reading the press release it looks more like it was the player who didn't want to come here or couldn't agree personal terms rather than anything City were asking for the player:(
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Youre probably right. I read City turned down our permanent offer and the player didnt want to come on loan. Maybe he spoke to Niall McGinn.
 

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At least he's a defender, so he's not in danger of going through a Barron spell in front of goal.
 

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absenteebee said:
Youre probably right. I read City turned down our permanent offer and the player didnt want to come on loan. Maybe he spoke to Niall McGinn.
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Maybe, having played in the Championship last season, and with Championship teams said to be interested, he wanted to remain at Championship level.
 

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Millwall got promoted and have stayed in the Championship not by having exceptional players but by bringing in players who are dedicated team players first and foremost. The likes of Barron and Craig will bring this with them and hopefully install that winning mentality which we have lacked at times in recent years.
 

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Stanley said:
Millwall got promoted and have stayed in the Championship not by having exceptional players but by bringing in players who are dedicated team players first and foremost. The likes of Barron and Craig will bring this with them and hopefully install that winning mentality which we have lacked at times in recent years.
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'Think that's the plan Stan'.

Let's see if they are a sufficient improvement on last years incumbents to achieve it.
 

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Stanley said:
Millwall got promoted and have stayed in the Championship not by having exceptional players but by bringing in players who are dedicated team players first and foremost. The likes of Barron and Craig will bring this with them and hopefully install that winning mentality which we have lacked at times in recent years.
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:sorted:
 

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Scott Barron is a "Tractor Snob"
He was also "Born, A Scott.....r"
 

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Stanley said:
Millwall got promoted and have stayed in the Championship not by having exceptional players but by bringing in players who are dedicated team players first and foremost. The likes of Barron and Craig will bring this with them and hopefully install that winning mentality which we have lacked at times in recent years.
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Exactly. Millwall is a club we should look to emulate. If you read Mike Calvin's book 'Family' you understand the characteristics of the club. They even applauded their side off after Birmingham beat them 6-0 at The Den - well those that stayed anyway. They finished with nine men but they still did not give up.
They operate on a shoe-string compared to a lot of sides in that division.

They aren't Osborne fans (yet).
 

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Kettering Bee said:
Dickson is available, but we chose this bloke!
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Madness, if Dickson's defending (which never seemed poor to me) is poor then what will the GPG think of this bloke who is clearly more comfortable going forward than defending.
 

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During the first half he let the Yeovil winger past him, then stopped & waved his hands about a bit instead of challenging him.
I immediately thought "Uh-oh this blokes clueless", the rest is history...
 

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big neil said:
During the first half he let the Yeovil winger past him, then stopped & waved his hands about a bit instead of challenging him.
I immediately thought "Uh-oh this blokes clueless", the rest is history...
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yep just seemed to give up expecting a foul.

Play to the whistle ( not just Barron but the rest of the players )
 

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Not going to consign him to the scrap heap on the basis of one game I've seen (some said he was alright at Bury) but he had a stinker last night. Tony Craig set up an oppo goal and scored one for them and I would still say that Barron was worse.
 

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Against Bury he wasn't exposed because he was further forward in the wing back position (plus Bury were crap)... against Yeovil he was exposed... hopefully this is due to a lack of fitness that Uwe mentioned and he will approve in the coming weeks.
 

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Kettering Bee said:
Dickson is available, but we chose this bloke!
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Madness IMO, anyway Rosler will stand or fall by the decisions he made............let's wait and see ?
 

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Thought he was good going forward, quite Dicko like, but had some shaky moments defensively on the night.

I think he could be good but he is now a natural target for the boo boys so he will need to put some good performances quickly.
 

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Stanley said:
Thought he was good going forward, quite Dicko like, but had some shaky moments defensively on the night.

I think he could be good but he is now a natural target for the boo boys so he will need to put some good performances quickly.
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Nothing like Dickson, at all. Every time Barron tried to go forward he looked slow, ponderous and lacking in ideas. More often than not, this meant him losing the ball and being exposed out of position. Oh, I'm starting to agree with Lions who say he can't cross.

I'm still surprised that people say that he was good at Bury. He wasn't good, he wasn't bad - he was ok. I'm just praying that we didn't pay much in wages or fees to get him.
 

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Kettering Bee said:
Nothing like Dickson, at all. Every time Barron tried to go forward he looked slow, ponderous and lacking in ideas. More often than not, this meant him losing the ball and being exposed out of position. Oh, I'm starting to agree with Lions who say he can't cross.

I'm still surprised that people say that he was good at Bury. He wasn't good, he wasn't bad - he was ok. I'm just praying that we didn't pay much in wages or fees to get him.
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The only thing I would say is I never saw Dickson play without a winger in front of him and I'm not convinced he would get up and down the pitch in the way our formation needs to. Barron was very exposed at times and I'd worry for any player in that position. Should have had a holding midfielder stepping across and covering but that didn't happen very often. We were too gung-ho last night imo - you can't win games with only two defenders.
 

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thats why we need Kev to play as the holding midfielder not that wondering toumani
 

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Les Beeavinu said:
The only thing I would say is I never saw Dickson play without a winger in front of him and I'm not convinced he would get up and down the pitch in the way our formation needs to. Barron was very exposed at times and I'd worry for any player in that position. Should have had a holding midfielder stepping across and covering but that didn't happen very often. We were too gung-ho last night imo - you can't win games with only two defenders.
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I share the same concerns. It may pay us to play 3 CBs in 3-5-2 formation rather than the diamond we currently employ. The problem with the latter is that it requires a lot off the ball movement which was clearly not evident in yesterday's game - with the only exception being Forshaw whose talent has no doubt been sharpened from an early age. Ditto Forrester.

Here's my two pennies worth Championship Manager stylee.

A possible line up vs Crewe could be:

Moore/Lee

Dean Legge Craig

Logan Forshaw Douglas/O'Connor Barron

Forrester

Hayes Donaldson/Farid

Subs: Douglas/O'Connor, Fredericks, Redwood, Moore/Lee, Donaldson/Farid, Saunders, Toumani

In this situation Legge's sole role here would be to welly anything that came his way either with his head or foot, or alternatively lay off to Dean or Craig who are a little bit more cultured and can play it down the wings or into Douglas or Forshaw - it also means Dean and Craig can double up behind Logan and Barron if either side is attacking. Both Dean and Craig will have licenced to carry the ball forward if need be, at which point Douglas or O'Connor drops back to cover. Forshaw acts as the lynchpin between defence and attack while Forrester is encouraged to be a nuisance. Both Barron and Logan can have more licence to bomb down the wings knowing Craig or Dean will be covering.

Re corners: For the life of me I still don't understand why we need 10 outfield players defending a corner each time. Someone of Logan's stature is ineffectual in those situations and they would do better if they were asked to stay up for any loose balls that may come their way.
 

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Kettering Bee said:
Give it up Smiffy. Your once midly amusing humour has gone mate.
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Come on Mr Gorgeous !
Let's not beat about the bush - We all want Dickson, he is better than Barron, from what we know and have seen (so far)
However, Southampton don't want to give him away and we can't afford or justify a season long loan on Dickson's current wage or a portion there-of

Ergo Sum, Ipso Facto, we don't have the readies
 

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SmiffyBee said:
Come on Mr Gorgeous !
Let's not beat about the bush - We all want Dickson, he is better than Barron, from what we know and have seen (so far)
However, Southampton don't want to give him away and we can't afford or justify a season long loan on Dickson's current wage or a portion there-of

Ergo Sum, Ipso Facto, we don't have the readies
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We don't because we chose to spunk the budget on a couple of players. One poor, the other average, but both I imagine, very expensive. We should not be surprised by Barron's lack of ability. Just take a look at what the Wall fans have to say about him - you won't have to search too hard. I had similar read outs from the Wall fans at work. I've seen him play twice for us and last night he fitted the description of everything I've been told/read. You can jest all you like about Baines, but we could and should have done so much better than Barron.
 

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As I said in another thread, I haven't seen him as I have been on my hols but I would caution against writing a player off on the strength of one bad game, especially when its his home debut. Sure, the Millwall fans dont seem too keen on him but his record in terms of number of appearances would seem to hold up pretty well. He has had 2 years in the Championship, I believe and featured in 20 games last season and 30 odd in 2010/11. If he really is as bad as all that then I am surprised that he kept his place. Mill wall didn't have a bad couple of seasons after all.
 

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BURFORD BEE said:
As I said in another thread, I haven't seen him as I have been on my hols but I would caution against writing a player off on the strength of one bad game, especially when its his home debut. Sure, the Millwall fans dont seem too keen on him but his record in terms of number of appearances would seem to hold up pretty well. He has had 2 years in the Championship, I believe and featured in 20 games last season and 30 odd in 2010/11. If he really is as bad as all that then I am surprised that he kept his place. Mill wall didn't have a bad couple of seasons after all.
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Wait until you see him, then tell us what you think.
 

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Kingston Bee said:
Wait until you see him, then tell us what you think.
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I will!

I certainly share your concerns and had more than a few reservations about Uwe at times last season. I just think that we need to give it more than 2 games before writing anyone off.
 

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Just read a post from Brentford 1 whoever you are on the Millwall forum.He started a thread asking if they Want to swop regarding Barron and Craig for Osborne.Great support for our club mate glad a couple of their fans have put you in your place.
 
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