Should Scott Go?

[Ghost]

And it's no good saying the players didn't do their jobs etc every time. He bought most of them and selects the team. You can get away with it once or twice but how many times have we heard it this season......?

Successful managers are able to change tactics if things are not working but we are still hoofing all the time and getting nowhere.

Don't forget he was laying into the players last season as well. Remember Mark Phillips' public roasting? My respect for AS has been dwindling since that point on. "Kempygate" certainly didn't help as I was in earshot and saw the expression on his face. Quite frankly the press conferences are just simply boring. It is hardly worth reading them when we lose, as you know what it will say... various conotations of "people not doing their jobs"
Having had a lot of respect for Scott I now find him very tedious.

 

[rwBee]

I really can't believe what I'm reading.

Everyone wants AS out - can I remind you we're talking about the current League One Manager of the Month? How many times has that happened, a cub sacking the current MOM?

You all talk about things as if we're in some sort of major crisis. Grow up, we've lost 2 in a row. Too many people on here are quick to moan when things aren't going perfectly. Not enough credit is given when it goes right.

I would personally give AS the freedom of Brentford and give him the manager's job for life and no, that is not a wind-up.

 

[Ambrose_1889]

I would personally give AS the freedom of Brentford and give him the manager's job for life and no, that is not a wind-up.

Why?

 

[Ghost]

I would personally give AS the freedom of Brentford and give him the manager's job for life and no, that is not a wind-up.

I really can't believe what I'm reading.

 

[maddogging]

I really can't believe what I'm reading.

Everyone wants AS out - can I remind you we're talking about the current League One Manager of the Month? How many times has that happened, a cub sacking the current MOM?

You all talk about things as if we're in some sort of major crisis. Grow up, we've lost 2 in a row. Too many people on here are quick to moan when things aren't going perfectly. Not enough credit is given when it goes right.

I would personally give AS the freedom of Brentford and give him the manager's job for life and no, that is not a wind-up.

brilliant. You must tell us which stand you would like to sit in by yourself come the New Year.

 

[Bigbee]

I really can't believe what I'm reading.

Everyone wants AS out - can I remind you we're talking about the current League One Manager of the Month? How many times has that happened, a cub sacking the current MOM?

You all talk about things as if we're in some sort of major crisis. Grow up, we've lost 2 in a row. Too many people on here are quick to moan when things aren't going perfectly. Not enough credit is given when it goes right.

I would personally give AS the freedom of Brentford and give him the manager's job for life and no, that is not a wind-up.

Ok,get off the computer ,it isnt yours is it ?You've been told that before.It just looks a bit like the one you used to have at home,and you get confused.Dont abuse other peoples logins on here. Plus dont get angry and throw a wobbly as you'll only be given more medication .Find a nurse and go back to your room.If you are feeling better at tea time maybe they'll let you out again for a bit.

 

[kevalutonbee]

I really can't believe what I'm reading.

Everyone wants AS out - can I remind you we're talking about the current League One Manager of the Month? How many times has that happened, a cub sacking the current MOM?

You all talk about things as if we're in some sort of major crisis. Grow up, we've lost 2 in a row. Too many people on here are quick to moan when things aren't going perfectly. Not enough credit is given when it goes right.

I would personally give AS the freedom of Brentford and give him the manager's job for life and no, that is not a wind-up.

The panel almost certainly look at the number of points gained in the month. Sadly I think that month has papered over a crack which appears to be getting wider.

Somebody said that the first goal in the league game against Charlton may be the most important goal scored at GP for a long time. I think the first goal scored at Home Park could have a similar stature

 

[Brain-dead Bee]

Why?

Because Andy's his dad?

 

[mattbee85]

I really can't believe what I'm reading.

Everyone wants AS out - can I remind you we're talking about the current League One Manager of the Month? How many times has that happened, a cub sacking the current MOM?

You all talk about things as if we're in some sort of major crisis. Grow up, we've lost 2 in a row. Too many people on here are quick to moan when things aren't going perfectly. Not enough credit is given when it goes right.

I would personally give AS the freedom of Brentford and give him the manager's job for life and no, that is not a wind-up.

You are not Marcus Bean are you?????

 

[mattbee85]

I really can't believe what I'm reading.

Everyone wants AS out - can I remind you we're talking about the current League One Manager of the Month? How many times has that happened, a cub sacking the current MOM?

You all talk about things as if we're in some sort of major crisis. Grow up, we've lost 2 in a row. Too many people on here are quick to moan when things aren't going perfectly. Not enough credit is given when it goes right.

I would personally give AS the freedom of Brentford and give him the manager's job for life and no, that is not a wind-up.

You need to get down to GP alot more and realise the way we play we are going to lose a lot more games this season. AS and his tactics after a successful start have now been found out and he does not know where to turn!!!! The MOM award was based on results fair enough but the way we have been playing that run of luck will only last so long!!!!

 

[blunstone]

I really can't believe what I'm reading.

Everyone wants AS out - can I remind you we're talking about the current League One Manager of the Month? How many times has that happened, a cub sacking the current MOM?

You all talk about things as if we're in some sort of major crisis. Grow up, we've lost 2 in a row. Too many people on here are quick to moan when things aren't going perfectly. Not enough credit is given when it goes right.

yes i agree - the same manager whose cup teams beat everton, hull, swindon away and nearly birmingham away too.

 

[SmiffyBee]

Do you know what there would not be so many for scott to leave if he didnt come up with this bullshit every week!!! your right people are sick of hearing his w**k excuses. He never holds his hands up and says i picked the wrong 11 or got it tactically wrong. .

Can you name one manager who has ever done this ?

If he did, he would be loading his own suicide cannon, for the fans to fire....

I think his early success as manager may have made him think he was alot better than he was and now as its our 2nd season in league 1 other teams have worked us out and due to his inability to change things and his inexperience we are totally exposed and have no plan B.

So we should have dumped him as soon as he won League 2 ?

 

[Bill Benn]

Can you name one manager who has ever done this ?

If he did, he would be loading his own suicide cannon, for the fans to fire....



So we should have dumped him as soon as he won League 2 ?

Yes we should the same as we should have sacked Holder after we won Div 1.

 

[SmiffyBee]

Yes we should the same as we should have sacked Holder after we won Div 1.

...thats like saying as soon as someone dies from one of my burgers, I should get the sack......

 

[Bill Benn]

...thats like saying as soon as someone dies from one of my burgers, I should get the sack......

Now that would be Harshlol

 

[BedfontRed]

I really can't believe what I'm reading.

Everyone wants AS out - can I remind you we're talking about the current League One Manager of the Month? How many times has that happened, a cub sacking the current MOM?

You all talk about things as if we're in some sort of major crisis. Grow up, we've lost 2 in a row. Too many people on here are quick to moan when things aren't going perfectly. Not enough credit is given when it goes right.

I would personally give AS the freedom of Brentford and give him the manager's job for life and no, that is not a wind-up.

Hello Mr Scott!!!!!!

 

[mattbee85]

Can you name one manager who has ever done this ?

If he did, he would be loading his own suicide cannon, for the fans to fire....



So we should have dumped him as soon as he won League 2 ?

To the first one you replied there is other managers out there but cant be arsed sitting on youtube for hours. The fact is when for everytime we lose he comes up with pretty much the same sh*t it cant always be the case. I guess the problem is he dosnt see it being his fault!!!

To the second reply of course we shouldnt have dumped him. But do you not agree that if we didnt get promoted that the next season would have been a different story. Yes it was excellent we did and last year was great finishing 9th first year back but due to the fact we didnt get promoted last year i feel most league 1 teams now know what to expect from us as we are very one dimensional!!!! And that is not me whining about not getting promoted last year its me saying we have to change something to have a different approach to different opposition.

 

[Freebee]

I really can't believe what I'm reading.

Everyone wants AS out - can I remind you we're talking about the current League One Manager of the Month? How many times has that happened, a cub sacking the current MOM?

You all talk about things as if we're in some sort of major crisis. Grow up, we've lost 2 in a row. Too many people on here are quick to moan when things aren't going perfectly. Not enough credit is given when it goes right.

I would personally give AS the freedom of Brentford and give him the manager's job for life and no, that is not a wind-up.

Well i can't believe what i'm reading either.

You say everyone wants AS out but you don't..everyone and then there's you..everyone and then there's you..is it sinking in?

Do you really think you know better than EVERYONE?

Andy Scott say's he know's better than everyone too.He is adamant that his tactics are sound but its clear that they arn't because we are crap almost everygame.

He works with the players everyday and after all that he admits that they just don't do what he asks them to.That in itself is a massive failiure and i'd like to know how he can live with himself and have the cheek to stand up in an interview and tell us that he is doing a bad job week in week out

The few others in the pro AS camp are at least now beggining to admit that things are looking grim and its not working for AS.

Oh and you saying freedom of city blah blah and "it's not a wind up"shows that after you'd typed your post you must have thought the comment so bizarre yourself that you had to clarify it was'nt.

 

[mattbee85]

Well i can't believe what i'm reading either.

You say everyone wants AS out but you don't..everyone and then there's you..everyone and then there's you..is it sinking in?

Do you really think you know better than EVERYONE?

Andy Scott say's he know's better than everyone too.He is adamant that his tactics are sound but its clear that they arn't because we are crap almost everygame.

He works with the players everyday and after all that he admits that they just don't do what he asks them to.That in itself is a massive failiure and i'd like to know how he can live with himself and have the cheek to stand up in an interview and tell us that he is doing a bad job week in week out

The few others in the pro AS camp are at least now beggining to admit that things are looking grim and its not working for AS.

Oh and you saying freedom of city blah blah and "it's not a wind up"shows that after you'd typed your post you must have thought the comment so bizarre yourself that you had to clarify it was'nt.

lol very true and funny!!!! I would rather AS sorted it but i think hes to stubborn to change what needs changing!!!! Therefore a new and fresh approach!!!! AS sees no fault in his style as up until now it has worked for him but as ive said before weve been found out now and teams know what to expect so we have to be a bit more clever than lumping the ball up the pitch and AS has shown no signs he knows how to change it and has shown he has no other ideas against different opposition.

 

[Inappropriate Smilies Bee]

...thats like saying as soon as someone dies from one of my burgers, I should get the sack......

several halal battery dogs died for your burgers.

will you be selling burgers at plymouth?

 

[Letchbee]

He says we dont suddenly become a bad team over night. He's right we've been a bad team for months

 

[longdistancebee]

Looking at the poll as it stands (1545 on 17 Nov), i have to confess surprise that less than half view the current situation as worthy of asking AS to fall on his sword (or have somebody push him onto it!). 45%, in fact. 15% say give him 2 games, making 60% who want an immediate or very quick return to "good football" (whatever that may be...). There are however 40% who say, either give him until at least C'mas/New Year, or just having faith in him to turn it around. I have to say, you clearly see something i dont.

 

[mattbee85]

I dont doubt there is a chance we could get a result at plymouth next Sat but do we think the performance will change?? We will scrape results but as people have said when we have had one of our biggest budgets for a while we should be feared, not going in to games with the opposition knowing exactly what we are going to do. We are predictable and if us supporters can see it im sure other teams can!!!!

 

[stoney04]

I dont doubt there is a chance we could get a result at plymouth next Sat but do we think the performance will change?? We will scrape results but as people have said when we have had one of our biggest budgets for a while we should be feared, not going in to games with the opposition knowing exactly what we are going to do. We are predictable and if us supporters can see it im sure other teams can!!!!

how big do you think our budget is?

 

[SmiffyBee]

Looking at the poll as it stands (1545 on 17 Nov), i have to confess surprise that less than half view the current situation as worthy of asking AS to fall on his sword (or have somebody push him onto it!). 45%, in fact. 15% say give him 2 games, making 60% who want an immediate or very quick return to "good football" (whatever that may be...). There are however 40% who say, either give him until at least C'mas/New Year, or just having faith in him to turn it around. I have to say, you clearly see something i dont.

so 60% will give him at least 2 more games.....

 

[havelockbee]

how big do you think our budget is?

The largest a Brentford manager has ever had?

 

[MayenneBee]

Who wanted to go to Dover anyway.

I did. Time up for AS. Sorry.:beer:

Au revoir

 

[stoney04]

Looking at the poll as it stands (1545 on 17 Nov), i have to confess surprise that less than half view the current situation as worthy of asking AS to fall on his sword (or have somebody push him onto it!). 45%, in fact. 15% say give him 2 games, making 60% who want an immediate or very quick return to "good football" (whatever that may be...). There are however 40% who say, either give him until at least C'mas/New Year, or just having faith in him to turn it around. I have to say, you clearly see something i dont.

but at the same time the first 3 options and percentages shows that 86% know that his time is up sooner or later come xmas if things dont change!

 

[mattbee85]

how big do you think our budget is?

Havnt got a clue but looking at the amount of signings, poss wages then it has to be bigger than we have had for a while. All im getting at is its obvious to me we have more money than weve had previously and it seems when we have had less money wevev spent it better would you agree?? And this is not me saying all AS signings have been sh*t because thats far from true but maybe the wrong signings for a club looking to progress.

 

[Bill Benn]

so 60% will give him at least 2 more games.....

On the GPG so what,others not on here already have voted by not coming to games.

 

[longdistancebee]

so 60% will give him at least 2 more games.....

Well, i would suggest that unless we get at least 2 points from Plymouth and Colchester, then even our very (and commendably) loyal Board, will have to act.

 

[stoney04]

Havnt got a clue but looking at the amount of signings, poss wages then it has to be bigger than we have had for a while. All im getting at is its obvious to me we have more money than weve had previously and it seems when we have had less money wevev spent it better would you agree?? And this is not me saying all AS signings have been sh*t because thats far from true but maybe the wrong signings for a club looking to progress.

dont get to excited, as ive said before this extra money were getting is not in one go!!!

 

[mattbee85]

dont get to excited, as ive said before this extra money were getting is not in one go!!!

I did gather and according to AS we have some budget left for january if we need it. Well guess what andy we do!!!!! Changing squad and team around, signings in and out its a little unsettling me thinks.

 

[favershambee]

Sadly ,I feel AS is too stubborn to change from the hoofball mentality. Lack of substitutions, inept substitutions, the blame game, unable to take responsabilty that his team selections, tactics have an effect on the entertainment value and results of games. Some things need to be kept in the dressing room and not aired publicly.I have supported BFC for 54 years through the good and the bad, the difference this season is that I believe the team is capable of producing a better performance than what I have endured in the last 3 home games. I am not sitting on the fence any longer. Thanks for promotion Andy and keeping us in the football league, but your time is up.

 

[Gosport Bee]

yes i agree - the same manager whose cup teams beat everton, hull, swindon away and nearly birmingham away too.

same old same old. 3 of those games went to penalties

Portsmouth got to the cup final & got RELEGATED. Cup games don't mean sod all if you go down

 

[Nurse Betty]

In August with the signings made, the investment by Benham and the decent finishing position last season I think we all expected us to be "up there" at this stage.
However we are not.
We are not playing nice football. We are not playing any football.
Strikers are injured and midfielders not creating.

However we are not adrift in league one. Andy can pull this round. I will give him till the end of the year at least before calling for the axe.
Leave me off the band wagon til then.

I sincerely hope that alarm bells are ringing sufficiently at the Club so that alternative solutions
are being looked at NOW. And that, of course, means they will have to have formed a view NOW about what to do next. Waiting until Christmas to come to a decision could leave us with too big a hole to escape from.

It certainly seems that the quality of football is the main concern of supporters, not the position of the team in League One.

 

[mattbee85]

Sadly ,I feel AS is too stubborn to change from the hoofball mentality. Lack of substitutions, inept substitutions, the blame game, unable to take responsabilty that his team selections, tactics have an effect on the entertainment value and results of games. Some things need to be kept in the dressing room and not aired publicly.I have supported BFC for 54 years through the good and the bad, the difference this season is that I believe the team is capable of producing a better performance than what I have endured in the last 3 home games. I am not sitting on the fence any longer. Thanks for promotion Andy and keeping us in the football league, but your time is up.

I like this and agree The squad is not the worlds best but i think someone else could get more out of them than AS can. Its almost like he needs to got to coaching school or something and learn some new ideas as he only seems to have one.

 

[kevalutonbee]

I did gather and according to AS we have some budget left for january if we need it. Well guess what andy we do!!!!! Changing squad and team around, signings in and out its a little unsettling me thinks.

Just what the team needs not. Another six monthly clear out. I'm sure AS said somewhere that after we had rebuilt the team (again) at the start of last season we would stabilise with what we had. How many new faces since then 20,25?

 

[shouldbee]

On the GPG so what,others not on here already have voted by not coming to games.

Very true, a lot of the people who sit near me don't even look at the site let alone post. There were 5 empty season ticket seats on Saturday near me. I cannot believe the board are just sitting back and watching him drive loyal long term fans away. I've been a season ticket holder for some time but like somebody posted earlier I won't be renewing next season if Scott is still manager.

 

[mattbee85]

Just what the team needs not. Another six monthly clear out. I'm sure AS said somewhere that after we had rebuilt the team (again) at the start of last season we would stabilise with what we had. How many new faces since then 20,25?

The fact is when he purchased in summer that should have been enough and the decisions should have been better. Purchases or loans in January should really have only been if we had long term injurys or similar. I can see 3 leaving on loan or permanent and we bringing in 4 or 5 again. Its to much change. The problem is as he thinks its all down to the players and not him he keeps changing them but the fact is maybe its him that needs changing not the players. Usually at this point dont palyers in interviews usually say something to support there manager?? i may be mistaken but i havnt heard a player do that yet!!!!

 

[Brentford_till_die]

How many of our players are performing to a consistently acceptable level? Lee. Woodman. And now I'm struggling.

Karleigh.

 

[mattbee85]

How many of our players are performing to a consistently acceptable level? Lee. Woodman. And now I'm struggling.

Karleigh.

According to some KOC but i think thats bo11ox!!!!

 

[sonofabee]

How many of our players are performing to a consistently acceptable level? Lee. Woodman. And now I'm struggling.

Karleigh.

Ben, Richard Lee, Karleigh and Craig Woodman definitely. I'd go so far as to say that Alexander has done OK in most games but hasn't had the support he requires from midfield to maximise his effectiveness.

 

[mattbee85]

Ben, Richard Lee, Karleigh and Craig Woodman definitely. I'd go so far as to say that Alexander has done OK in most games but hasn't had the support he requires from midfield to maximise his effectiveness.

Charlie is always a trier but current style of play is never going to help him with long balls coming in to a 5'10 11 stone bloke!!!

 

[Ghost]

Charlie is always a trier but current style of play is never going to help him with long balls coming in to a 5'10 11 stone bloke!!!

He's a lot stronger than he looks but your point is valid nonetheless

 

[sussexb]

I honestly couldn't care less if he gets sacked whilst he's still MOM - and I am utterly fed up of the "short memories" line. I don't have a short memory, and I don't think Scott is the man to take this club forward. He has shown limitations that plenty on here can see, and not only is this team playing poorly, but outside the back 4 and Weston there is very little sense of building for the future either. That worries me as much as anything else.

 

[mattbee85]

He's a lot stronger than he looks but your point is valid nonetheless

thats true. Truthfully he is more than a trier when he is given the neccesary support but with current support he will struggle to get over 10-15 and imo wont be his fault!!!! He is not an aerial threat, speed demon or muscle bound steve howard. He is smallish, quite lightweight but clever and has high work rate and with the right players behind him will get us 20 goals +.

 

[sonofabee]

Charlie is always a trier but current style of play is never going to help him with long balls coming in to a 5'10 11 stone bloke!!!

I feel sorry for Charlie as he works his socks off but he hasn't been as effective as he should, largely down to supply.

 

[mattbee85]

I feel sorry for Charlie as he works his socks off but he hasn't been as effective as he should, largely down to supply.

IMHO i think 99% down to supply. Having two neagtive players like Bean and KOC behind you for majority of season isnt going to help with supply and myles and whatever right winger AS decides to play crossing Charlies never going to be prolific with his head!!!!

 

[Keighley Bee]

I don't see waiting until Christmas/New Year as an option at all. If there is to be a change the decision needs to be made in good time to give the new man (assuming there that it won't be Faith or Hope Powell, whatever her name is!) to see what he has to work with before the transfer window.

I think the dwindling crowds give as strong a clue as any what that decision should be.