Should Scott Go?

Should Scott Go.

  • Yes, Resign/Get Sacked Now. You've had your last game

    Votes: 158 35.7%
  • You've got the next 2 games

    Votes: 79 17.8%
  • You've got until Christmas/New Year

    Votes: 106 23.9%
  • No, he's the man to turn this around

    Votes: 100 22.6%

  • Total voters
    443
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Should Scott Go?

3 consecutive away league wins 9 goals what a terrible record.
i'd rather play pretty football lose 7-6 and get relegated
at least it would be entertaining!!
get a life
 

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3 consecutive away league wins 9 goals what a terrible record.
i'd rather play pretty football lose 7-6 and get relegated
at least it would be entertaining!!
get a life

How do you know if we would be relegated playing entertaining football.
 

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5 points from the play-offs now, come on be realistic... he isn't getting sacked or quitting any time soon.

Sounded like he changed things round, brought players in from the cold who did well and altered the tactics. We won :D

I am sure there were a few Brentford fans dissapointed with this result :nono:

I doubt there were any fans that didn't want Brentford to win today, we may not like AS style of play but we still want Brentford to win every game. Why people assume if you don't like AS you want Brentford to lose, thats rubbish.
 

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I doubt there were any fans that didn't want Brentford to win today, we may not like AS style of play but we still want Brentford to win every game. Why people assume if you don't like AS you want Brentford to lose, thats rubbish.

Perhaps, but Wayfarer for one, comes mighty close sometimes
 

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Why people assume if you don't like AS you want Brentford to lose, thats rubbish.

perhaps because even when we do win the same people have to find something negative with which to beat him with without even giving some credit for the fact we just beat a team that last season were in the championship?

it may take a season or two but we are going in an upwards direction with andy in charge, that i am certain of :sorted:
 

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it may take a season or two but we are going in an upwards direction with andy in charge, that i am certain of :sorted:

I agree and with the backing he gets how can he fail? I think we would do it quicker with a better manager and I might not have enough years left to wait for The Arrogance to get it right.
 

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For what reasons do fans want Scott Out ? Results wise the team is recovering from a poor start in the league. Dissenters are on dodgy ground there.
Personality wise complainers have a point but that's not really a valid reason to dispose of him if he is effective and winning games.
Tactically and regarding the atmosphere at GP, Scott is on shaky ground and it is at home where Scott must do better.
Notts Co at home on Dec 4th is a chance for Scott to get some entertainment back.
I doubt he will change his style so he needs the run of results to continue until Christmas.
Hopefully the board are looking at the falling attendance and raising some eyebrows.
All budgeted for of course...
 

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Who made the changes to the formation?

Who gave Saunders the chance?

Who gave Bean and Dave another chance?

Who believed in Charlie when he had his goal drought?

Who wasn't scared to leave Simpson on the bench?

The list goes on...

Andy Scott did everything to win today and the players did there jobs, well done Andy, you've showed your good enough :)
 

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Should Andy go?
In my opinion, I do not believe that he has lost the dressing room and that is, in my opinion, one of the key factors in deciding whether he should go or not. We all have experience of the drop and what a team looks like when it is doomed to relegation, and whilst a few will argue that a few players might be unhappy, that has almost never not been the case with Scotty. Most of the squad seem happy to play under him, and whilst it may well be true that some players have fallen out of favour with him, most of the team appear to play for him, hence the fact that at times during this season, we have ground out results. Had the team have no faith in the manager, we all know that capitulation is by far the easier option for the players, but we not look like that type of team.

However, there are other key factors in assessing whether he is the right man for the job.

Is he the right man for the job?
In my opinion, Andy will only be the right man for the job in our eyes if he improved and progressed to a style that us fans crave for. By and large, we want results, but preferably playing with some kind of neat, passing style, with pace and flair, with a strong, quick defence. We, as fans, are perfectly entitled to have an expectation as to what we want to see from the matches that we pay good money to watch. So, over the last three years, have we seen an improvement in the way that we play under Scotty? What has he developed into the squad over the past three years? In my personal opinion, not a lot. Playing midfielders who cannot create is not a step forward. Having a lack of pace in attack, or rather, being one-dimensional in our attacking play is not a step forward either. Instead, we are relying a little heavily on the team playing hard and fighting for every point, which I believe is where our current situation is.
The team is too one-dimensional and too direct, lacking movement and pacey energy, and stems from the manager's tactical instructions. If the players cannot get it right on the pitch, it is down to the manager failing to get his point across effectively. If Scotty feels that he has improved tactically, then he has certainly failed to get this across to the team and whilst I believe they respect him and will play for him, it is not enough to sustain a challenge for promotion. I do not believe that we will be relegated, but to think that we are anywhere near getting promoted is delusional. Sure, one-off games where fight, hunger and determination is paramount, and this current team is capable of pulling off a result. But over the season, we have not and cannot open up opposition defences on a regular basis. In fact, under Scotty, we have hardly been free-scoring and ground out alot of wins through teamwork, good organisation and by making less mistakes. Whilst this is a good foundation for a team to progress, it is time that the team displays signs of pushing on, or he is not the right man to take the club forward.

I believe that we will finish mid-table this season, having done so by doing what I can only describe as the bare minimum, and that is having a team who will fight, be well-organised and grind out results. But if that is the basis of which Scotty's vision is for the team, bearing in mind that the board very publicly backed him when he was appointed as the man for the long-term, then I am concerned. To have such backing, Scotty must show the club that we are progressing. I do not believe for a second that we do not appreciate what he did in his first season. In his second season, we wanted to see consolidation in League One and Scotty delivered. However, I do not really believe that we expected promotion, and that Brentford fans would settle for mid-table if the team was undergoing a secondary transition where the style of football was designed to force opposition defences open.

From the board's point of view, I believe that their job is to maximise the revenue for the club. On matchdays, with attendances on the decline, there is not much time before they will have to act. In my opinion, Scotty needs to be able to demonstrate to those who will make the decision for him to stay or not, whether he has really taken the club forward or not. His style of football is not attractive, but results would keep the crowds coming. With indifferent results, a more attractive style of football would also keep the crowds coming. He is, frankly, on the cusp of achieving neither. Poor results and performances that give fans little hope of watching us tear opposition apart mean that the revenue coming into the club could also be on the decline.

On this basis, if there is no improvement in the style of football over the course of this season, then I hope that we can find a manager who has a suitable vision for the team that shows progression.

For me, Scotty could avoid alot of this. If he genuinely has a vision, then do any of us know what it is? And I don't mean promotion. I mean, what is the style of the team play that he is trying to achieve? Where does he see future personnel coming from? How has he ever intended for us to be a united club? I do not believe that he has ever communicated this to us, the fans. When has anyone seen him talk about a united club, and market it to the fans? Martin Allen was a master of that when he was with us and whilst I don't expect Scotty to be MA, he really ought to be self-critical enough to acknowledge (privately, at least) that he really needs to work on this area, as part of being a manager is to get fans through the turnstiles. By communicating a vision to the fans, we can then understand what he is trying to do and keep coming to see if he and the team is, at least, trying to achieve this, and therefore back him to achieve it.
 

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Perhaps, but Wayfarer for one, comes mighty close sometimes


Go on. This isn't the 1st time you have had a dig at me.

Let me remind you. I want the bees to do well. I have no beef with the players in any way, shape or form. I'm sure you dont want me to remind you who my beef is with. You stick with your beliefs and I'll stick with mine. If it upsets people as they say in Russia ''Tough sh*tski'' :thumbs:
 

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All the loyals turned up today.
Hanwell Boys on Tour
Scott In:sorted:

Yes, Scott in. But, all the loyals turned up today ? Not quite right.. A number of the whingers on here were present at Home Park ~ A united front, 100% behind BFC, one 'team' etc. What rubbish !!! This whole negative thread is a total waste of time. Some people have obviously spent great chunks of their life being anti-Scotty. Hey, we've just had anti-bullying week. Stop picking on those who cannot retaliate, be positive and truly be loyal to the club..
 

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Stop picking on those who cannot retaliate, be positive and truly be loyal to the club..
He can retaliate and did in his post match statement. He said he's sick of us lol. On a serious note, if someone thinks a change of manager is for the best, why is this being any less positive and loyal than someone who doesn't? Surely it's just showing passion and ambition for the club from a different viewpoint? :confused:
 

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He can retaliate and did in his post match statement. He said he's sick of us lol. On a serious note, if someone thinks a change of manager is for the best, why is this being any less positive and loyal than someone who doesn't? Surely it's just showing passion and ambition for the club from a different viewpoint? :confused:

No. He said ' There's a lot of negativity around... Doom and gloom, I'm sick of it'. Nothing specific about being sick of fans on GPG. Some folks are becoming very paranoid, as evident by the initial comment on the 'Andy's comments' thread.
 

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That wasn't really the initial comment, the posts all had to be rearranged as they were interfering with the Match Reports thread. And that wasn't paranoia anyway since Scott has had a go at initial commenter directly in the past :wave:
 

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Who made the changes to the formation?

Who gave Saunders the chance?

Dyou really think Sam would of started if Weston or Wood were fit ?He had run out of options

Who gave Bean and Dave another chance?

another chance?Or AS continues with them despite poor recent performances ?

Who believed in Charlie when he had his goal drought?

AS still hasnt decided on his first choice striker partnership


Who wasn't scared to leave Simpson on the bench?

He didnt have a great game last week did he ?
The list goes on...

Andy Scott did everything to win today and the players did there jobs, well done Andy, you've showed your good enough :)

He had to make changes due to injuries and got lucky in that some players who dont hoof ball got a chance
 

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No. He said ' There's a lot of negativity around... Doom and gloom, I'm sick of it'. Nothing specific about being sick of fans on GPG. Some folks are becoming very paranoid, as evident by the initial comment on the 'Andy's comments' thread.

Where does the negativity come from ? The fans, so he is sick of us. Did you hear the tone of is voice as he said it ? Through gritted teeth .

Use Weston as a weapon from the bench.Get the midfielder every one desires ,obtain a pacey striker ,or maybe Hudson will come good sooner than later.
 

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Negativity? "Andy Scott won us League Two, we finished 9th last season. Let's sit and wait a bit. You never know, he might just sort this out". That, in my book, is negativity. Recognising that it just ain't going to happen, that he has taken us as far as he can and that a change of manager is needed to take us forward - that is positivity, surely? :shrug:
 

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Should Andy go?
In my opinion, I do not believe that he has lost the dressing room and that is, in my opinion, one of the key factors in deciding whether he should go or not. We all have experience of the drop and what a team looks like when it is doomed to relegation, and whilst a few will argue that a few players might be unhappy, that has almost never not been the case with Scotty. Most of the squad seem happy to play under him, and whilst it may well be true that some players have fallen out of favour with him, most of the team appear to play for him, hence the fact that at times during this season, we have ground out results. Had the team have no faith in the manager, we all know that capitulation is by far the easier option for the players, but we not look like that type of team.

However, there are other key factors in assessing whether he is the right man for the job.

Is he the right man for the job?
In my opinion, Andy will only be the right man for the job in our eyes if he improved and progressed to a style that us fans crave for. By and large, we want results, but preferably playing with some kind of neat, passing style, with pace and flair, with a strong, quick defence. We, as fans, are perfectly entitled to have an expectation as to what we want to see from the matches that we pay good money to watch. So, over the last three years, have we seen an improvement in the way that we play under Scotty? What has he developed into the squad over the past three years? In my personal opinion, not a lot. Playing midfielders who cannot create is not a step forward. Having a lack of pace in attack, or rather, being one-dimensional in our attacking play is not a step forward either. Instead, we are relying a little heavily on the team playing hard and fighting for every point, which I believe is where our current situation is.
The team is too one-dimensional and too direct, lacking movement and pacey energy, and stems from the manager's tactical instructions. If the players cannot get it right on the pitch, it is down to the manager failing to get his point across effectively. If Scotty feels that he has improved tactically, then he has certainly failed to get this across to the team and whilst I believe they respect him and will play for him, it is not enough to sustain a challenge for promotion. I do not believe that we will be relegated, but to think that we are anywhere near getting promoted is delusional. Sure, one-off games where fight, hunger and determination is paramount, and this current team is capable of pulling off a result. But over the season, we have not and cannot open up opposition defences on a regular basis. In fact, under Scotty, we have hardly been free-scoring and ground out alot of wins through teamwork, good organisation and by making less mistakes. Whilst this is a good foundation for a team to progress, it is time that the team displays signs of pushing on, or he is not the right man to take the club forward.

I believe that we will finish mid-table this season, having done so by doing what I can only describe as the bare minimum, and that is having a team who will fight, be well-organised and grind out results. But if that is the basis of which Scotty's vision is for the team, bearing in mind that the board very publicly backed him when he was appointed as the man for the long-term, then I am concerned. To have such backing, Scotty must show the club that we are progressing. I do not believe for a second that we do not appreciate what he did in his first season. In his second season, we wanted to see consolidation in League One and Scotty delivered. However, I do not really believe that we expected promotion, and that Brentford fans would settle for mid-table if the team was undergoing a secondary transition where the style of football was designed to force opposition defences open.

From the board's point of view, I believe that their job is to maximise the revenue for the club. On matchdays, with attendances on the decline, there is not much time before they will have to act. In my opinion, Scotty needs to be able to demonstrate to those who will make the decision for him to stay or not, whether he has really taken the club forward or not. His style of football is not attractive, but results would keep the crowds coming. With indifferent results, a more attractive style of football would also keep the crowds coming. He is, frankly, on the cusp of achieving neither. Poor results and performances that give fans little hope of watching us tear opposition apart mean that the revenue coming into the club could also be on the decline.

On this basis, if there is no improvement in the style of football over the course of this season, then I hope that we can find a manager who has a suitable vision for the team that shows progression.

For me, Scotty could avoid alot of this. If he genuinely has a vision, then do any of us know what it is? And I don't mean promotion. I mean, what is the style of the team play that he is trying to achieve? Where does he see future personnel coming from? How has he ever intended for us to be a united club? I do not believe that he has ever communicated this to us, the fans. When has anyone seen him talk about a united club, and market it to the fans? Martin Allen was a master of that when he was with us and whilst I don't expect Scotty to be MA, he really ought to be self-critical enough to acknowledge (privately, at least) that he really needs to work on this area, as part of being a manager is to get fans through the turnstiles. By communicating a vision to the fans, we can then understand what he is trying to do and keep coming to see if he and the team is, at least, trying to achieve this, and therefore back him to achieve it.

Outstanding post
 

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Negativity? "Andy Scott won us League Two, we finished 9th last season. Let's sit and wait a bit. You never know, he might just sort this out". That, in my book, is negativity. Recognising that it just ain't going to happen, that he has taken us as far as he can and that a change of manager is needed to take us forward - that is positivity, surely? :shrug:

You can spin it whatever way you want, personally I think that saying 'it aint going to happen, AS has taken us as far as he can and we need a change of manager' sounds pretty negative. For all you know we could get in a new manager and go on a 20 game losing streak. Whilst AS is keeping the team at the very least stable and in contention, his job is safe.

Results are results and being 5 points from the play-offs is good enough for me to give AS the rest of the season. We are not Barcelona, we are not even Norwich, so it is pretty inconceivable that the board is 'unsatisfied' with Andy Scott so far.
 

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You can spin it whatever way you want, personally I think that saying 'it aint going to happen, AS has taken us as far as he can and we need a change of manager' sounds pretty negative. For all you know we could get in a new manager and go on a 20 game losing streak. Whilst AS is keeping the team at the very least stable and in contention, his job is safe.

Results are results and being 5 points from the play-offs is good enough for me to give AS the rest of the season. We are not Barcelona, we are not even Norwich, so it is pretty inconceivable that the board is 'unsatisfied' with Andy Scott so far.
Fair enough. As I say, one man's negative is another man's positive. All I know is that it would be nice to come away from places like Aldershot without feeling thoroughly embarrassed :sorted:.
 

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Fair enough. As I say, one man's negative is another man's positive. All I know is that it would be nice to come away from places like Aldershot without feeling thoroughly embarrassed :sorted:.

Agreed :sorted:
 

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You can spin it whatever way you want, personally I think that saying 'it aint going to happen, AS has taken us as far as he can and we need a change of manager' sounds pretty negative. For all you know we could get in a new manager and go on a 20 game losing streak. Whilst AS is keeping the team at the very least stable and in contention, his job is safe.

Results are results and being 5 points from the play-offs is good enough for me to give AS the rest of the season. We are not Barcelona, we are not even Norwich, so it is pretty inconceivable that the board is 'unsatisfied' with Andy Scott so far.
The board will be unsatisfied when gates drop
 

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It was nice coming out of Home Park not feeling thoroughly embarrassed but quite proud of a good team display, though... you can't win 'em all!
 

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It was nice coming out of Home Park not feeling thoroughly embarrassed but quite proud of a good team display, though... you can't win 'em all!
No. But there's no excuse for not competing in them all.
 

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The board will be unsatisfied when gates drop
Based on TFLS last night, falling gates seem to be endemic in the Football League. The budget BFC is working to is conservative - which is proper budgeting - so there will be no panic; although there may be mild "unsatisfaction". As soon as we start playing like the Barcelona of the lower leagues, as some seem to think we should overnight, they'll all come flying in!


with those flying pigs...
 

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Excelent post, Leicester Bee.
 

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This matter will never be solved so why not ride the roller-coaster?
 

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This matter will never be solved so why not ride the roller-coaster?
Interesting. You reckon the missing thousands are going to Thorpe Park instead then? :scratch:
 

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we would get relegated if we lost 7-6 every game

We would have a better goal difference though :sorted:

I am on the bloody fence with this AS thing. Usually I know exactly what I want but I cant decide. One minute I sway towards wanting him out as we are so awful, then we pull off a great result and performance and you start to believe we can become more consistent.

I dont bloomin know anymore.
 

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We would have a better goal difference though :sorted:

I am on the bloody fence with this AS thing. Usually I know exactly what I want but I cant decide. One minute I sway towards wanting him out as we are so awful, then we pull off a great result and performance and you start to believe we can become more consistent.

I dont bloomin know anymore.
I know what you mean. I actually like Andy Scott. People would bracket me in the 'Anti-Scott Brigade' but that's not strictly true. I'd be just as happy for him to push us on as anyone else. I've got nothing against the man, nothing personal at all. But watching some of the performances lately - dear oh dear. I really don't believe he can take us any further. :shrug:
 

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We would have a better goal difference though :sorted:

I am on the bloody fence with this AS thing. Usually I know exactly what I want but I cant decide. One minute I sway towards wanting him out as we are so awful, then we pull off a great result and performance and you start to believe we can become more consistent.

I dont bloomin know anymore.

playing great football ,dont get you out of this league,so andy scott is the right man, but can he get the players, to play sh*te football ,good every week,lol
 

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playing great football ,dont get you out of this league,so andy scott is the right man, but can he get the players, to play sh*te football ,good every week,lol
Well this is it. At Aldershot, it was bad sh*te football. The players were simply kicking the ball up in the air as hard as they could in whichever direction they were facing. Hoofball is all well and good when administered correctly, but this was a danger to aviation :yes:.
 

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Ive said its no good winning these matches if we dont progress.
If AS can keep the team playing how we are or have been especially 2nd half V Aldershot and 75 minutes V Plymouth then brilliant.
But in his interview he said we decided to pass around because Weston and Wood were out....well play passing football anyways because if we do we are going up
 

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Leicester Bee's post is excellent.

For a lot of reasons away games are out for me like a lot of others. So it makes it difficult to appreciate the away wins when all I see is some dire, one dimensional performances mixed in with some exciting wins against the bigger teams.
If you only go to home games like me this team that's been very hard on the eye hasn't been easy to love this season.
 

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If you look at where we were last season, and where we are now, we are actually better off in terms of points and league position, we have also had a decent League and JPT run. Last season after 17 games we were 10 points away from the play offs. This season we are 5 points from the play offs. For people to say 'AS isn't the man to take the club forward' ...this season has so far been more successful than last, so what are you basing it on?

The football we played last season was very inconsistent, and not the most flowing, interesting stuff to watch, just like this season has been. The only difference is that last season we had no expectation other than to survive and did much better than we thought we would. This season we have a little more money and people want us to achieve instantly. In my opinion it is going to take a little longer, and Scott is taking us in the right direction (not just my opinion, look at the facts).

As long as we are stable for the time being, I am fine with AS being manager. Yes, in the future I think that with the budget we should expect a charge for the championship, in this season or the next. But I am not a success-whore that wants everything to happen straight away. I understand that we have had a turnover of 12 incoming players and 8 outgoing, and that Scott is building a team, and it might take longer than one season before we are hitting all the right notes.

Calling for the manager to go, while we are doing better than last season, with an all-new team is a complete joke IMHO. The performances have been up and down, but it is still early days and I will reserve judgement until the end of the season, probably whilst cheering the bees on at Wembley (we'll get there somehow). Whilst we are closer to the play-offs than relegation, Scott's job is safe.
 

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I'm not trying to argue with you or the facts, my fact is that I don't understand how we are doing what we are doing!:confused: Week after week it has felt a poor spectacle and in some cases that we'd mugged them. Maybe I'm missing the point and that this is a poor league we are simply going to do what it takes to gain points and that the performance is a distance second but I know that 5 of us who do 98% of games had no intention of going to Plymouth or Colchester as we couldn't take watching that sh*t for a while. We are doing well (our league position doesn't suggest that) and yet it's been a sticking old watch for most of the season.
 

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We have progressed every season under him, what do people want. Yes we have not been consistent just like every team (except maybe Brighton) in this division, and they are not looking to get their manager out. Think we have been spoilt the last couple of years, and the expectation levels are too high for this season. We need to take a reality check.
 

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Good post detours.

I still back AS and believe he can take us in the right direction GIVEN TIME, I know and realise that our performance has been up and down this season, because I’ve seen most of them (unlike many on here who make judgements without ever attending matches) so how on earth can supporters call for his head when we ARE PERFORMING BETTER THAN LAST SEASON at this moment in time is beyond me, and have played more games than any other team in the country.

Apart from Brighton this div is still wide open to the rest of us for the taking, no football manager is perfect and you can find some fault with all of them.
 

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I'm not trying to argue with you or the facts, my fact is that I don't understand how we are doing what we are doing!:confused: Week after week it has felt a poor spectacle and in some cases that we'd mugged them. Maybe I'm missing the point and that this is a poor league we are simply going to do what it takes to gain points and that the performance is a distance second but I know that 5 of us who do 98% of games had no intention of going to Plymouth or Colchester as we couldn't take watching that sh*t for a while. We are doing well (our league position doesn't suggest that) and yet it's been a sticking old watch for most of the season.

I agree that some performances this season have been diabolical, I have come away from griffin park in the past thankful that the next few games are away from home and I dont have to watch the bees (I go to all the home games). It is depressing sometimes and the MK dons absolutely spoiled my weekend :(.

On the other hand, we have had some great performances this season that have been some of my best times as a bees fan. After last season, I personally believe that nothing has really changed apart from our expectations. And as much as AS can frustrate me with team selection and our tactics (not all the time, some occasions they have been spectacularly effective) I still think he has earned the time to make us successful. The performances will get better, we are still in contention and we are stable as a club.

Consistency is the key, I think that the fact that we are doing better than last season gives me the confidence that AS is still the man for the job. At the moment I am happy to get good results over good performances. Luck can take us only so far, and to keep picking up decent points is no coincidence.

I think people should at least wait until after xmas, if we are still in touching distance of the play offs then, I think AS will be doing a good job. The devil you know is better than the devil you dont, and if he is underachieving but keeping us stable, I would rather wait until the end of the season to appoint someone else, rather than get a new manager in halfway through the season and risk complete instability.
 

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I the devil you dont, and if he is underachieving but keeping us stable, I would rather wait until the end of the season to appoint someone else, rather than get a new manager in halfway through the season and risk complete instability.

Out of interest and playing devils adv how many games without a win would you tolerate?
 

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Since April 1st 1980, Brentford have had 19 different managers, including Andy Scott.

Andy Scott has a win % of 40, which puts him 4th in the table, after Steve Coppell, Martin Allen and Phil Holder. Out of these three managers and Andy Scott, Andy has managed the most games, with the exception of Phil Holder, who Andy will pass when we play tomorrow night.

This therefore proves that he and Phil Holder, are the most consistent managers over a long spell of time from the past 31 years.

With this in mind, you could say Andy Scott is the 2nd best manager Brentford have had over the past 31 years and he has achived a hell of a lot:

- Save Brentford from Relegation to the Conference
- Win League two by 6 clear points the following season
- Finish 9th in the first season back in League 1 (A super achivement considering the sides in the league)
- Take Brentford 2 minutes away from the Carling Cup Quarter Finals after beating Hull, Everton and so so nearly Birmingham.

I may also remind you, we still got three of the bottom four to play, so we SHOULD be able to pick up at least 7 points, if not, 9 points from those 3 games which will put us in or around the play offs with a bit of luck.

As Andy said, he wants us to be United and lets be honest, we all want the best for Brentford and while the football we play may not always be the best, the results he has got us are up with the Coppell's and the Allen's.

Keep faith. :sorted:
 

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Since April 1st 1980, Brentford have had 19 different managers, including Andy Scott.

Andy Scott has a win % of 40, which puts him 4th in the table, after Steve Coppell, Martin Allen and Phil Holder. Out of these three managers and Andy Scott, Andy has managed the most games, with the exception of Phil Holder, who Andy will pass when we play tomorrow night.

This therefore proves that he and Phil Holder, are the most consistent managers over a long spell of time from the past 31 years.

With this in mind, you could say Andy Scott is the 2nd best manager Brentford have had over the past 31 years and he has achived a hell of a lot:

- Save Brentford from Relegation to the Conference
- Win League two by 6 clear points the following season
- Finish 9th in the first season back in League 1 (A super achivement considering the sides in the league)
- Take Brentford 2 minutes away from the Carling Cup Quarter Finals after beating Hull, Everton and so so nearly Birmingham.

I may also remind you, we still got three of the bottom four to play, so we SHOULD be able to pick up at least 7 points, if not, 9 points from those 3 games which will put us in or around the play offs with a bit of luck.

As Andy said, he wants us to be United and lets be honest, we all want the best for Brentford and while the football we play may not always be the best, the results he has got us are up with the Coppell's and the Allen's.

Keep faith. :sorted:

post of the month!!! well said - and it needs saying
 

Should Scott Go?

Since April 1st 1980,

Keep faith. :sorted:

Good post but when the above poster agrees, you are in trouble.

Weren't MA, SC and NH's records taken from results in higher divsions and without the fantastic support of the board and MB?

SC had a very negative and awful man called Noades in the background whereas AS has had that nice MB and what has been called the best set of boardroom peeps ever.
MA had who exactly?
 
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Should Scott Go?

Good post but when the above poster agrees, you are in trouble.

Weren't MA, SC and NH's records taken from results in higher divsions?

Allen and Coppell was all League 1 (Old Division 2) and Holder was Championship and League 1 (Old format)
 
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