The John Mackie thread

[duncster33]

maybe butcher would like ricky newman..look how sh*te he was......mackie is a waste of space.....maybe he should leave the club....bring back osbourne.....

 

[cheekybee74]

maybe butcher would like ricky newman..look how sh*te he was......mackie is a waste of space.....maybe he should leave the club....bring back osbourne.....

I suspect Newman would actually improve our midfield at present....

 

[Brain-dead Bee]

No as I'm in New Road but I did clearly see the immature crap he pulled when he got a nudge in the face and the appeared to be offering the Morecambe player out while the ref was standing a few feet away waiting to talk to them. In a way I was hoping he'd give him a shove and get sent off, but the problem was solved shortly after while still keeping 11 men on.

He had a right to be angry as there was a clear elbow that should have got a red card - the linesman should have spotted it (I don't blame the ref as he was sorting out the free kick). Nevertheless, Mackie's attempts to get at the guy while the ref was there were stupid and I feared he would give away a penalty and a red card by flattening the guy as the ball came over

 

[Brain-dead Bee]

I suspect Newman would actually improve our midfield at present....

Newman had a couple of decent games before becoming a donkey - I've yet to see Mackie have one decent game

 

[love and mercy]

I suspect Newman would actually improve our midfield at present....

I think there are a lot of players that we were glad to get rid of would be welcomed back now such as Ranking and Newman.
Not Brooker though

 

[Brain-dead Bee]

I think there are a lot of players that we were glad to get rid of would be welcomed back now such as Ranking and Newman.
Not Brooker though

I'd have welcomed Brooker on Tues night - in terms of ability, I'd have him in this team any week, though I accept why he had to go in terms of attitude

 

[alexinho]

No as I'm in New Road but I did clearly see the immature crap he pulled when he got a nudge in the face and the appeared to be offering the Morecambe player out while the ref was standing a few feet away waiting to talk to them. In a way I was hoping he'd give him a shove and get sent off, but the problem was solved shortly after while still keeping 11 men on.

Fair play, but being petulant with an opposition player is less grave an offence than openly insulting/ kicking off with home fans and the manager, in my humble opinion. I'm not denying he's a liability, but I am surprised that nobody else has commented on this supposed bust-up with Butcher and the baldie if indeed it happened as described.

 

[alexinho]

I think there are a lot of players that we were glad to get rid of would be welcomed back now such as Ranking and Newman.
Not Brooker though

Newman. No thanks.

 

[Jakalo]

Captain Fanspastic.

 

[VTG]

Fair play, but being petulant with an opposition player is less grave an offence than openly insulting/ kicking off with home fans and the manager, in my humble opinion. I'm not denying he's a liability, but I am surprised that nobody else has commented on this supposed bust-up with Butcher and the baldie if indeed it happened as described.

You don't get that angry with an opponent when the ref's 2 feet away looking straight at you and calling you over to talk to you, whether the guy's elbowed you in the face or not. I absolutely agree that either linesman should have seen it and I also think we need referees to have the ability to quickly review anything like that on a monitor, but he was about 2 more seconds of anger away from laying his hands on Morecambe's player on Tuesday and he would have been off. If you're a club captain, your attitude on the pitch is 95% of everything IMO. His attitude is completely sh*t, he doesn't command his position, he seems to have zero sway over his teammates on the rare occasion that he does open his mouth, he's slow, he tackles like a pub team forward and he is roundly disliked by the majority of fans. Added to that as you've pointed out his Brookeresque attitude towards fans and his management, he needs to go.
I'd rather play Lee Thorpe in defence as at least he isn't afraid to put his foot in. That's how sh*t Mackie is.

 

[condorman]

I think there are a lot of players that we were glad to get rid of would be welcomed back now such as Ranking and Newman.
Not Brooker though

Rankin always did OK. i would prefer the current lot to Newman. he was woeful

I actually feel sorry for Mackie. I think he is currently physically incapable of playing due to injury and keeps getting picked. And, unlike the current breed of footballers, if picked he will take to the pitch and do his best.

So the problem is with the person picking him than the player himself (who shouldn't be picked).

 

[Brain-dead Bee]

Rankin always did OK. i would prefer the current lot to Newman. he was woeful

I actually feel sorry for Mackie. I think he is currently physically incapable of playing due to injury and keeps getting picked. And, unlike the current breed of footballers, if picked he will take to the pitch and do his best.

So the problem is with the person picking him than the player himself (who shouldn't be picked).

If Mackie is being picked while injured, I'd have some sympathy for him (though in that case, has he ever been fit for us?), but I'd have even less for Butcher than I do now

 

[VTG]

If that is true, it again highlights the problems caused by not having a reserve team to improve returning or out of form players.

 

[sonofabee]

He's been injury prone and been prone to longish term term injury problems all his career, but rated as an effective player by and large.

Presumably this is just a season too many because the bloke is just not good enough at this level and I doubt the one below which we may be in next year.

Time for Butcher to admit he's got it wrong.

Bravery and willingness is good in a fight but you have to know how to channel the aggression, be in control and know how to hurt the opponent. He'd be more likely to throw himself on the floor and attempt to pull the bloke on top of him!

If he continues to play I think he'll overtake the 5 pens I said at the beginning of the season he'd give away.
Time for him to hang up his boots before he gets hounded out

 

[VTG]

Any updates? Is he still here? Has he left with Butcher? Torn up his contract? Gone to the physio? Had a 1 to 1 with Alan Hansen?

 

[Stanley]

Any updates? Is he still here? Has he left with Butcher? Torn up his contract? Gone to the physio? Had a 1 to 1 with Alan Hansen?

Strongest rumour I heard was asst manager/player to AS....new dream team

 

[Simon W]

In todays Chronicle it says Andy Scott has refused to comment on speculation that Mackie offered to resign after his bust up with a fan at the Grimsby game ! .. if it was true I hope someone accepeted his offer !

 

[VTG]

A fan? Add another 3,663 onto that and you might be closer to the mark

 

[Brentford_till_die]

Look tho.

He was captain for a team that got promoted from this league.

Doesnt it make you wonder why you would let him go?

Oreint saw his legs going and got rid, Fair play.

And i think maybe TB said at Forum he saw he had another 6 months in him, not sure, but if so why sign him on 2 years !!!!

 

[wayfarer172]

Look tho.

He was captain for a team that got promoted from this league.

Doesnt it make you wonder why you would let him go?

Oreint saw his legs going and got rid, Fair play.

And i think maybe TB said at Forum he saw he had another 6 months in him, not sure, but if so why sign him on 2 years !!!!

Very good post BTD

 

[Jimbee]

Look tho.

He was captain for a team that got promoted from this league.

Doesnt it make you wonder why you would let him go?

Oreint saw his legs going and got rid, Fair play.

And i think maybe TB said at Forum he saw he had another 6 months in him, not sure, but if so why sign him on 2 years !!!!

Has someone nicked your password?

 

[VTG]

Has someone nicked your password?

Normal service soon to be resumed no doubt. But until then, a sensible and correct post from B_t_d.

 

[Aberdeen flyer]

Has someone nicked your password?

rofl rofl rofl

 

[bees78039991]

look on the bbc site http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_3/7134236.stm

 

[VTG]

look on the bbc site http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_3/7134236.stm

Where do you suppose they might have got that information from? The BBC's lower league reporting is like a Lee Thorpe tackle; slow, late and lacking finesse.

 

[SmiffyBee]

look on the bbc site http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_3/7134236.stm

BBC writes---Andy Scott will be without key defender John Mackie


Key defender...does this mean, he guards the metal thing that opens the petty cash box ?

 

[shouldbee]

If that is true, it again highlights the problems caused by not having a reserve team to improve returning or out of form players.

We do have a reserve team, it's called the first team !

 

[gavobee]

One Andy Myers

 

[PrincessBee]

If that is true, it again highlights the problems caused by not having a reserve team to improve returning or out of form players.

why don't we have one of those again?

 

[VTG]

why don't we have one of those again?

Because certain people connected to the club refuse to speculate in order to accumulate.

 

[Simon C]

Because certain people connected to the club refuse to speculate in order to accumulate.

Martin Allen ditched the reserve team. I'm sure there is an argument for them to return but on the list of things to sort at BFC that would be pretty low down.

 

[VTG]

Martin Allen's been gone for ages. It's no excuse.

 

[GP200]

...........just a note Mr Mackie.....................you are no longer required.......many thanks....................

 

[kojebee]

I hope whoever is manager when Mackie is fit again, has the b****s to let him keep the bench warm, rather than start a game.

 

[wanderer paul]

I hope whoever is manager when Mackie is fit again, has the b****s to let him keep the bench warm, rather than start a game.

Mackie will never be 100% fit as his knees/legs are not what they used to be!

He'll only ever be an 80% player at best, he's turned out to be a poor signing on a 2 year contract.

 

[GP200]

I hope whoever is manager when Mackie is fit again, has the b****s to let him keep the bench warm, rather than start a game.

.....I do not want this joker keeping the bench warm ..............

 

[Simon C]

Martin Allen's been gone for ages. It's no excuse.

:scratch: That wasn't the reason given

 

[davewfilms]

Some good news from the bbc website
John Mackie faces a long lay-off as his leg injury is worse than feared.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_3/7163998.stm

 

[YorkBee]

Some good news from the bbc website
John Mackie faces a long lay-off as his leg injury is worse than feared.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_3/7163998.stm

nothing personal but I hope heather mills mcartney gets her leg better before he does she would probably be a better bet on the pitch anyway

 

[NorthamptonBee]

It can't be nice being called Mackie and playing for Brentford. I would like to think he has more balls and pride than Brooker did and just sort of feck off rather than strutting about with Tillen and Karder-Andrews and smirking at fans on matchdays. Surely at this stage in his career he would want to be playing and also playing in front of people who want him.

 

[louzer]

nothing personal but I hope heather mills mcartney gets her leg better before he does she would probably be a better bet on the pitch anyway

My worst fear is that his injury gets better.
Is this the start of a diplomatic on yer bike to a has been defender

 

[brentford bees]

It can't be nice being called Mackie and playing for Brentford. I would like to think he has more balls and pride than Brooker did and just sort of feck off rather than strutting about with Tillen and Karder-Andrews and smirking at fans on matchdays. Surely at this stage in his career he would want to be playing and also playing in front of people who want him.

true no one like him so why doesnt he go and then we get the money

 

[VTG]

true no one like him so why doesnt he go and then we get the money

Because for him to go and for us to get money, that would require someone else to want him. Chances: chuff all.

 

[hayes bee]

please some mug take him off our hands please

 

[Davee]

I'm sure he has tried his best, and yes, at times it wasn't good enough. But carrying the ravages of time, and having injections to move wasn't giving him a chance to shine. Give him a break, I doubt he'll ever wear the shirt again.

 

[Stanley]

I'm sure he has tried his best, and yes, at times it wasn't good enough. But carrying the ravages of time, and having injections to move wasn't giving him a chance to shine. Give him a break, I doubt he'll ever wear the shirt again.

Quite, he does try and gives his all ( unlike Brooker did), and it has been suggested that he has been carrying injuries etc so not sure he deserves all the abuse.

I am sure he is as frustrated by his lack of form as we are.

We are OK with triers I thought in this club....that's why Bob Booker was worshipped

 

[SmiffyBee]

I'm sure he has tried his best, and yes, at times it wasn't good enough. But carrying the ravages of time, and having injections to move wasn't giving him a chance to shine. Give him a break, I doubt he'll ever wear the shirt again.

I am with Davee

I really think this is it.

Give the guy a dignified exit....he hasnt done himself justice for the Bees...I don't think he has disrespected the club, just played on for one year too many.

 

[TW3Bee]

.....I do not want this joker keeping the bench warm ..............

A seat in the stand would be better.

 

[Jimbee]

We have had this situation before I seem to remember. For John Mackie, read Ian Bolton.

Ian Bolton fecked off fairly quickly though, I can't see JM doing this. He needs to transfer listed with the hope that Aldersot or someone need a motivating madman.

 

[Simon C]

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