The New Manager Thread

[Edmundo]

.............maybe he will learn from what went wrong in the last couple of months and correct it for next time...............

Except that the next time was his time at MK Dons, where he repeated the error almost exactly!

 

[McBee]

We could a lot worse than putting Ann in as his assistant !
As an aside, the Superstore is now at Premiership standard since her return.

Saying that, she hasn't posted to announce the discount on Butcher's autobiography in the superstore yet... Could make a good stocking filler at the right price...

 

[louzer]

you talk a big game louzer but we all know you are trying to counter-act your impotence issues with being the 'big man' on here.

Just because i can't violate you when you want me too.
I presume your voting Kerry miss gpg. Brentford away etc...

Seriously if it was up to you who would you pick?
Not to further violate you (obviously mr motivator), to manage the team i mean

 

[Bee cool]

i would have newell, cotterill, daish or clough but would they have us??

 

[walkerbee]

someone with balls who would speak his mind. allen / newell type character would be great.

 

[Stanley]

Why not Sammy Mcilroy...surely he feels we have more potential than Morecombe and he seems to have done a decent job there and Macclesfield on a shoestring??

 

[super_bees]

Martin Allen

 

[north wilts bee]

TONY ADAMS

 

[GP200]

Why not Sammy Mcilroy...surely he feels we have more potential than Morecombe and he seems to have done a decent job there and Macclesfield on a shoestring??

.........I'm sure Sammy will be impressed at what he saw last week....................

 

[GP200]

TONY ADAMS

.........in the same league as Butcher.....hopeless..................

 

[louzer]

Why not Sammy Mcilroy...surely he feels we have more potential than Morecombe and he seems to have done a decent job there and Macclesfield on a shoestring??

Just signed an extension today. He lives up that way and there is a sizeable Northern Irish community in Lancashire. Morecambe is the Hastings of the north. This is the first part of his retirement plan.
London holds no attractions for him.

 

[joet]

you'd have to be in a desperate situation to want to be manager for brentford. either really old and not needing cash or someone who has burnt bridges all over the place and has no other choice (can't think who that could be).

having said that, i'd do it for a 4 pack of stella and bag of ready salted mccoys.

 

[Chorlton Bee]

Morecambe is the Hastings of the north.

What, full of Chavs, Greasy crusties, and London local authority B&B overspill?

 

[louzer]

What, full of Chavs, Greasy crusties, and London local authority B&B overspill?

I was thinking coffin dodgers.
Like the signature Chorlton, This is the news!

 

[Kautsky]

Mark Goldberg has just walked out of Bromley FC. I think he is still barred from owning a football club after the Palace fiasco - and from being a director - but he is allowed to manage and he has money.

He took Bromley up a division but i wouldn't want him as Manager. Don't want to be a "fairground attraction" where people can just turn up, pay and have a go....

 

[brian01]

A couple of thoughts on the Potential new Manager :

MA - Good short term to get us out of the s*** but will he hang around ?
Liam Daish - Could be a good appointment, but does he have the experience to cope with a relagation battle?
Neale Cooper - Been there seen it, done it. Knows the lower leagues very well.
Alan Devonshire - Decent Manager but has he reached his level?

If we could get him, my vote would go to Steve Cotterill. Very good man manager, experienced, knows the lower leagues and likes a challenge which is good because he would have one managing the Bees !!

 

[JTofBFC]

Surely KD has to get this appointment right or his position becomes untenable?!

I think what you actually mean is surely KD should not be let loose anywhere near this appointment process after the last 2 debacles.

Someone else at the club to deal with this please.

 

[Brentford St George]

Why can't i vote for the dream team partnership of Royal Oak Bee and Seaton Bee lol

 

[wayfarer172]

Steve King, Lewes FC, currently top of the Blue Square South with 40 pts from 18 games:

"Steve King took over at the Dripping Pan in the summer of 2003, and quickly set about moulding the Rooks into a side that could challenge for promotion from Ryman Division One south. However what followed surpassed all expectations, with the championship being clinched at the end of April 2004, and then another promotion being achieved via three tortuous play-off games in five days. The team then confounded all the experts yet again by finishing in the play-off positions in the first two Conference South seasons, only to be denied the chance to play in them because of their ground".

Don't know anything about him, but: (1) this sounds pretty consistent; (2) he'd know the southern non-league scene; and (3) he's not a has-been or never-will-be regurgitated from the football league.

Very interesting reading. Tis guy sounds a good 'un

 

[Idaho Bee]

Steve King, Lewes FC, currently top of the Blue Square South with 40 pts from 18 games:

"Steve King took over at the Dripping Pan in the summer of 2003, and quickly set about moulding the Rooks into a side that could challenge for promotion from Ryman Division One south. However what followed surpassed all expectations, with the championship being clinched at the end of April 2004, and then another promotion being achieved via three tortuous play-off games in five days. The team then confounded all the experts yet again by finishing in the play-off positions in the first two Conference South seasons, only to be denied the chance to play in them because of their ground".

Don't know anything about him, but: (1) this sounds pretty consistent; (2) he'd know the southern non-league scene; and (3) he's not a has-been or never-will-be regurgitated from the football league.

Sounds interesting..............

 

[jameshorne]

1 MARTIN ALLEN! THERE'S ONLY 1 MARTIN ALLEN!

 

[Metro]

We need to stay in the division. So a short term fix - from now to season end only one candidate and you all know who that is - MA - so lets get back on the roller coaster.

 

[Chorlton Bee]

Tailor made Chronny headline

'Out of the Dripping Pan into the frying pan'

 

[dbee3]

Yes, we do need to get ourselves out of trouble but, we are not a terminal case by any stretch. If we can get say Cotterill in he could do just as well if not better than Allen and then he could assess the players he likes, doesn't like and then hopefully build a squad to challenge next season.

Bringing Allen back til the end of the season is not the way forward. Yes he performed miracles to keep us up in 03/04 but, this is a far worse squad and also a different situation as there are not just 8-10 games to go. Also, what happens at the end of his stint if he does keep us up? We boot him out the door. I mean there is no guarentee that he will jump straight into another job. Again some fans seem to have forgotten the way he messed things up from a seemingly excellent position back in 05/06 and also, I certainly wouldn't want him anywhere near the 200k is it became available as you can be sure he would waste it on a Delroy Facey type striker.

We need to start building this club back up and that should start from the next managerial appointment, not a quick fix otherwise we could find ourselves in a similar position again this time next year.

 

[paulm]

Paul Fairclough - Excellent job at Barnet and network of contacts at non league level

 

[1markbee]

1 MARTIN ALLEN! THERE'S ONLY 1 MARTIN ALLEN!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spblkt-S_zc

 

[Metro]

Dbee3 _ fair comment, good post but I see the land fill site dropping on our heads - which is the basis of what I'm saying.

 

[Mick.C]

Managers Out of Work

Looking at the list of managers that are presently available right NOW, ready to step in this week/next Monday or the week after, its fascinating, do you go for a been there/seen it/done the experience manager like a Stan Ternent, Roy MacFarland, Denis Smith type character who know lower leagues and DO have contacts in the game or try for "another chancers"
David Hodgson, Merson, Brian Talbot, etc..Or do you take a gamble on someone in employment like Daish/Buckle/Devonshire/Jim Harvey and pay some money to their club and hope they replicate their success at a higher level.

Looking at the last few managers, we've had, the only plus was the untried hungry raw manager from the conference, we nicked from Barnet, he wanted ambition and dragged Brentford along with him. Maybe that's the future, in another young "unknown to many" name rather than an established name in the game or a second chancer.
That would need balls as I can't see the board gambling on an unknown with a 200k kitty in January.
But whatever, the appointment needs to be swift, ideally before Dec 21 and the holiday games.

 

[bees66]

Graham Turner.... please

 

[dbee3]

Graham Turner.... please

Isn't he chairman/shareholder at Hereford as well as manager?!

 

[JBN]

I went for anyone but MA, providing that the 'anyone' has some passion and knows what they are doing.

Martin Allen is in the past. going back is not they way forward.

 

[ReggieK]

Based on the form of the last 18 months we only have two managers to go before we settle down. One we appoint now, get relegated again, sack him and employ someone "who understands the lower-lower leagues"

I really liked MA, despite some of stick he got on here, it was an exciting time to be a Bees fan for a while. Didn't MA leave cos we wouldn't give him the money to buy better players? How much have we wasted on all these compensation payments since. Perhaps we should have been braver and backed MA back when he asked for it? Can't see him wanting to come back here now though.

 

[GABS]

I went for anyone but MA, providing that the 'anyone' has some passion and knows what they are doing.

Martin Allen is in the past. going back is not they way forward.

Seems many fans disagree with ya - I voted anyone but AS by the way

 

[bees66]

Isn't he chairman/shareholder at Hereford as well as manager?!

not sure, If he is then get him in anyway

 

['Ayes B]

I would vote but surely with such an exstensive list we should be allowed to vote for more than one candidate

 

[walkerbee]

does anyone know if there are any odds at the bookies on the next manager? quick search of ladbrokes/paddy power revealed nothing

 

[FlyBee]

46.61% of the vote as I speak. Won't demand a fee, available at short notice, capable of helping us not only stay up but possibly also find a successor if he doesn't want to stay long term. There's only one choice. Sod all that no going back stuff.....
COME BACK MARTIN - THE BEES NEED YOU! (please!)

 

[Jakalo]

Very interesting reading. Tis guy sounds a good 'un

NO NO NO.

Trust me.

 

[twickenhambee!]

MA! he is what this club needs!

 

[letsallgotolourdes]

Groundhog day?

I'm getting this horrible feeling of deja vu', board says Andy Scott is only temporary replacement, Andy scott says he doesn't want the job, board lays out 113 point criteria for new manager. Hey presto! Andy Scott gets the job.

 

[FlyBee]

MA! he is what this club needs!

Right on Twickers! Can you imagine MA in charge in time for Chirstmas? Jeez I'd be buying a second half season ticket!

 

[JBN]

Seems many fans disagree with ya - I voted anyone but AS by the way

As I have said previously, if you want to go for glory, the last manager to bring a trophy to GP was Ron Noades.

Theres short memories and then theres shorter memories.

 

[brentfordbeehive]

although my heart says Martin Allen, my head says we should sign someone with a good knowledge of the lower leagues, someone who would not get us relegated, basicly someone who would not be a risk and a gamble. At the moment, im not too bothered about promotion, as long as we consolidate, something terry couldnt do.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Paul Fairclough could be a good bet. I shouldn't imagine there are many people who know more about lower league football than he does. He said some things about us being a big club at the start of the season so perhaps he might fancy a bigger challenge than Barnet. That's where my vote goes.

 

[brentfordbeehive]

http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/s... tford_job.php

'Allen tight lipped over brentford job'

 

[brentfordbeehive]

Paul Fairclough could be a good bet. I shouldn't imagine there are many people who know less about lower league football than he does. He said some things about us being a big club at the start of the season so perhaps he might fancy a bigger challenge than Barnet. That's where my vote goes.

i think you mean more

 

[dbee3]

does anyone know if there are any odds at the bookies on the next manager? quick search of ladbrokes/paddy power revealed nothing

MARTIN ALLEN 7/4
LIAM DAISH 7/2
GARY WADDOCK 4/1
MICK HARFORD 9/2
GRAHAM WESTLEY 11/2
STEVE FALLON 6/1
JOHN HOLLINS 6/1
MIKE NEWELL 6/1
NIGEL CLOUGH 7/1
STEVE COTTERILL 8/1
JIM HARVEY 10/1
CHRIS HUGHTON 11/1
ANDY SINTON 12/1
ALAN DEVONSHIRE 14/1
PAUL FAIRCLOUGH 14/1
WILLIE DONACHIE 16/1
ROY MCFARLAND 16/1
TEDDY SHERINGHAM16/1
COLIN TODD 16/1
KEITH MILLEN 20/1
PHIL PARKINSON 20/1
JIMMY QUINN 20/1
KEVIN WILSON 20/1
MICKY ADAMS 25/1
PAUL BUCKLE 25/1
NEALE COOPER 25/1
MARTIN FOYLE 25/1
IFFY ONOURA 25/1
PAUL TISDALE 25/1
RAY WILKINS 33/1
DAVE BASSETT 50/1
GARY BLISSETT 66/1
PAUL SIMPSON 66/1
PAUL STEPHENSON 66/1
JOSE MOURINHO 1000/1!!!

From betfair apparently. They were emailed to me by a mate so I cannot conclusively say if they are from betfair. Also, I would imagine Allen would be a lot shorter when the big boys start their markets.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

i think you mean more

I think I mean more too. Corrected, thank you.

 

[brooks]

We need a decent lower division manager who can not only keep us up but work hard over three or four years building a team and getting us, hopefully, back into the third and doing well. Can't see Allen hanging around for that.

 

[JBN]

Can't see Allen hanging around for that.

Nail on head.

He applied for jobs up and down the country while he was manager at BFC with a 18 months of a two year contract left to serve.