Tottenham Hotspur

[WarrenBee]

I have nothing to say about this "big club"other than

rofl lol rofl lol rofl lol rofl lol rofl lol

Feel free to join in.

 

[Stanley]

As one of the original "breakaway five" that forced the formation of the Premiershite, and the beginning of the end of football as we knew it, there could be nothing more poetic than seeing them relegated, apart perhaps from Everton joining them.

What's funny is them actually believing the likes of O'neal would actually want to manage them.

 

[Holysmit]

to the premiership spurs

"No fans have it worse then Spurs fans"

Spurs going down

lol rofl :bound: :bound: :bound:

 

[Claire]

gather we dont want smithy going there then?

even though it is very unlikely that he is

 

[Heston Bee]

Loads of reports in the last few days that former Sampdoria great and current Lazio boss, Roberto Mancini will take the helm at Spurs.
He's done a good job at SS Lazio, who are struggling financially.

Probably worth bringing him in as player-manager judging by the state of Spurs' current midfield.

 

[Led Zeppelin]

Why worry about them,when there are more pressing matters at Brentford? Is it joking about them,helps you forget what a sh*t state Brentford is in? Just seems a waste of time mocking a club who really couldnt give a flying fig about little Brentford.

 

[GP200]

Once Mr Adams has done his worst at Wycombe ,surely a job at Spurs beckons--go on ,do it...........

 

[homerbees]

Why worry about them,when there are more pressing matters at Brentford? Is it joking about them,helps you forget what a sh*t state Brentford is in? Just seems a waste of time mocking a club who really couldnt give a flying fig about little Brentford.

We can laugh at whatever we want as its a Brentford messageboard!

We know we are in the sh*t, well done you for noticeing that!

 

[California Bee]

No to Tottenham relegated

My Dad was a big Spurs fan as he lived in Harringay. I was born after he moved to Staines and he took me to Griffin Park regularly although he was still a Spurs fan. Ted Ditchburn was my Dad's wartime RAF pal and was the Spurs' goalie for many years and also played half a dozen games for England. Tottenham were the class act of football in the early sixties under Bill Nicholson with Danny Blanchflower, Cliff Jones, John White and co.

It would be a shame to see them leave the top ranks. The more London teams up there, the better as far as I'm concerned. Every London team has played in the top league since WW II,...Arsenal, Brentford, Charlton Athletic, Chelsea, Crystal Palace, Fulham, Leyton Orient, Millwall, Tottenham Hotspur, Queens Park Rangers, Watford, West Ham United and Wimbledon.

 

[Edmundo]

Re: No to Tottenham relegated

Every London team has played in the top league since WW II,...Arsenal, Brentford, Charlton Athletic, Chelsea, Crystal Palace, Fulham, Leyton Orient, Millwall, Tottenham Hotspur, Queens Park Rangers, Watford, West Ham United and Wimbledon.

Ah, but not Barnet!! And Watford and Wimbledon aren't in London!

 

[Snappy]

Re: Re: No to Tottenham relegated

Ah, but not Barnet!! And Watford and Wimbledon aren't in London!

Wimbledon is. SW19?

 

[California Bee]

Re: Re: No to Tottenham relegated

Ah, but not Barnet!! And Watford and Wimbledon aren't in London!

OK Edmundo, you Kentish Town nitpicker, you may be right so I'll publish the rules now:

Must have a London name, be in a London Borough, have a London Postal Code or be on the London Underground AND be in the League (Div III and above) today.

Barnet is a fake "Bees" and is not in the League. Watford is on the London Underground and Wimbledon has a London name.

 

[cheshire bee]

I have had a sneaky couple of quid on Micky Adams being next manager on basis he appears to have a decent managerial reputation, Leicester get relegated and wants to stay in premiership. Not bad odds at 200-1, probably go for some european football of the year who is now in the managerial game.

 

[Stanley]

Why worry about them,when there are more pressing matters at Brentford? Is it joking about them,helps you forget what a sh*t state Brentford is in? Just seems a waste of time mocking a club who really couldnt give a flying fig about little Brentford.

Its because of the greed of Premiership clubs that we, as for most Nationwide clubs, are in the sh*te, hence yes it is funny when they fall into the abyss they have created.

 

[CJC]

Gianluca Vialli as manager Or Lawrie Sanchez Spurs are always a good laugh, they have the money seemingly to be able to sustain a decent premiership side yet they blow it all the time That Postiga cost enough for us to clear our debt and get a decent team didn't he? and Bobby Zamora, why?

Just seems a waste of time mocking a club who really couldnt give a flying fig about little Brentford.

seems a waste of time mocking a club who really couldn't give a flying fig about big Spurs!

 

[California Bee]

Its because of the greed of Premiership clubs that we, as for most Nationwide clubs, are in the sh*te, hence yes it is funny when they fall into the abyss they have created.

That kind of schadenfreud should be reserved for Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and especially Manchester United.

 

[Led Zeppelin]

Maybe so but at the end of it all Brentford ARE the joke.

 

[California Bee]

Maybe so but at the end of it all Brentford ARE the joke.

This season is not over yet. It could still be a joke but there's still time for either a tragedy, a feel good story, a thriller or a horror story.

 

[Stanley]

That kind of schadenfreud should be reserved for Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and especially Manchester United.

Well someone correct me if I'm wrong but the original "breakaway five" were Arsenal, Manu, Liverpool, Everton and Spurs.

I blame them all.

 

[California Bee]

Well someone correct me if I'm wrong but the original "breakaway five" were Arsenal, Manu, Liverpool, Everton and Spurs.

I blame them all.

My point is that Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and especially Manchester United have used their money to dominate the game for the past 25 years.

 

[Carri Bee Un]

My point is that Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and especially Manchester United have used their money to dominate the game for the past 25 years.

and because Spurs have used their money disastrously they're alright?

All of them must burn. A curse on all their houses.

 

[California Bee]

and because Spurs have used their money disastrously they're alright?

All of them must burn. A curse on all their houses.

For whatever reason the others have wreaked more harm. Anyway, we're not warlocks so our curses would not be effective

 

[Sweepy]

Interesting item in Scaramanga's favourite daily publication today.

Alan Sugar blames all of Spurs' current woes on.....













...guess.....























...the fans







...what a surprise for the chairman (former) to blame the fans! Well not all the fans - a "small section". Also, he didn't call them 'thick prats' either. He described the critics who claimed Spurs is "rotten to the core" as that, and added Spurs would be better off without them.

Good thing Brentford FC doesn't treat its supporters harbouring opinions in that way - there would be 100 less Grapeviners straight away.

 

[Carri Bee Un]

For whatever reason the others have wreaked more harm. Anyway, we're not warlocks so our curses would not be effective

There's a tiny bit of pikey blood in my veins, my curses are effective.

Lucky heather?

 

[CJC]

My point is that Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and especially Manchester United have used their money to dominate the game for the past 25 years.

Chelsea? They went bust 15 years ago didn't they? They were in and out the first division as well until the 90's I thought. And then they spent money they didn't have and Roman Abramovich saved them from collapse. Just as evil though!!!!

Liverpool are a bit of a joke now as well, they waste so much of their money.

 

[Carl Super-Hooper]

My point is that Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and especially Manchester United have used their money to dominate the game for the past 25 years.

I don't remember Liverpool spending much money in the eighties to "dominate" the game... and I don't recall Man U in the early nineties spending a shed load on Beckham / Scholes / Giggs / Neville / Butt either.

 

[California Bee]

I don't remember Liverpool spending much money in the eighties to "dominate" the game... and I don't recall Man U in the early nineties spending a shed load on Beckham / Scholes / Giggs / Neville / Butt either.

Dalglish from Celtic to Liverpool, Cantona from Leeds and Cole fom Newcastle to Man U come immediately to mind, not to mention Ferguson the manager from Aberdeen.

 

[Stanley]

Dalglish from Celtic to Liverpool, Cantona from Leeds and Cole fom Newcastle to Man U come immediately to mind, not to mention Ferguson the manager from Aberdeen.

Liverpool's dominace was built on mixing some big money buys with home grown talent and lower league talent (like Rush). They spent wisely and "built" a team over many years. Like or loath them at the time you had to admire them.

Todays big PL clubs just seem hell bent on instant success by buying the best they can, largely from abroad,with little thought of building anything. In the case of today's Liverpool they have spent over £100m and ending up with their worst team in ages.

 

[CJC]

Liverpool were a class act and Man U and Arsenal are now, there's no doubting that it's just the greed that puts people off.

In the case of today's Liverpool they have spent over £100m and ending up with their worst team in ages.

We could probably have got a new stadium and got in the premiership and had a half-decent chance of staying there if we had that money!!!

 

[California Bee]

Liverpool were a class act and Man U and Arsenal are now, there's no doubting that it's just the greed that puts people off.

Money has destroyed the integrity of the Football League and reduced the competition to a display of financial strength by a few

 

[Mr Tree]

anyway....

Spurs are always good for a laugh. They aren't many teams around with a bigger delusional sense of being a big club! If they went down i would laugh all summer

 

[California Bee]

anyway....

Spurs are always good for a laugh. They aren't many teams around with a bigger delusional sense of being a big club! If they went down i would laugh all summer

Really wide of the mark here DTB. Tottenham has a great history and used to pull in crowds in excess of 70,000. The club that featured Alf Ramsey, Bill Nicholson, Cliff Jones, John White, Arthur Rowe, Jimmy Greaves, Len Duquemin, Ted Ditchburn, Dave Mackay, Pat Jennings, Paul Gascoigne, Glenn Hoddle, Sol Campbell, Darren Anderton, Teddy Sheringham, Mike Norman, Tommy Harmer, Steve Perryman, Mike England etc can stand next to any IMHO.

"Delusional" in my book would include the likes of Southampton or Fulham but definitely not Tottenham

 

[Mr Tree]

history counts for a lot. but for the past ten years or so, spurs have been irrelevant to the upper ranks of the game, yet they're constantly linked to all sorts of big names. maybe one day they'll come big again, but for the moment, they are a club to ridicule, and exactly the sort i'd love to see go to division 1

 

[California Bee]

history counts for a lot. but for the past ten years or so, spurs have been irrelevant to the upper ranks of the game

You could say this about 89 of the 92 clubs in the league.

Tottenham have the following and the capacity to compete. I see nothing wrong with their ambition or with linking them with "big" names. Why you would get joy from their relegation escapes me. I could understand it if you wanted Arsenal or Man U to get relegated after all their years of dominating with money but Tottenham have been struggling to get back on par with these all-powerful monsters.

 

[Milton Keynes Bee]

I think that was Maurice Norman not Mike Norman, California Bee

 

[Simon T]

history counts for a lot. but for the past ten years or so, spurs have been irrelevant to the upper ranks of the game, yet they're constantly linked to all sorts of big names. maybe one day they'll come big again, but for the moment, they are a club to ridicule, and exactly the sort i'd love to see go to division 1

Weren't they supposed to be trying to recruit the Bayern Munich boss (Hitzfeld?) to replace the kerb crawler over the summer rofl Showing far more tact than is necessary he didn't laugh in their face. Quite why he would choose to move from one of the most successful teams in Europe where he can pick and choose the best players in Germany as legitimate transfer targets (i.e. he can buy them not just be linked with them) to what Spurs have become over recent years is way beyond my intellect. I think he'd either have to be insane or fleeing criminal charges to make that move so I don't think he'll be heading to north London over the summer.

 

[California Bee]

I think that was Maurice Norman not Mike Norman, California Bee

I stand corrected. Thanks

 

[shaun]

I for one would laugh if they went down.

When we played them in the cup a couple of years ago, the Spurs fans sang ''sh*t ground, no fans.'' The Brentford fans replied with ''Big club, my arse.''

Spurs have a history & a pedigree - but then so do Blackpool. I know a few Spurs fans & they really do think that they ''Mean'' something in the current game. Do they feck. They are bad enough to go down, their ''Star'' player wants to bugger off to play for Mali rofl rofl rofl , their squad is very poor & they have a guy in charge of them who (with all due respect to the bloke) is just not a premiership manager anymore.

I think it is funny when the ''Mighty'' fall. Supporting a little club means that I cannot help taking amusement at the misfortune of a big club.

 

[Stanley]

Tottenham has a great history and used to pull in crowds in excess of 70,000.

Well we used to pull in 35 - 40K many moons ago but it means little now. Football has always been cylical in dishing out success and they have no divine right to be amongst the big boys all the time as some of their supporters seem to think so.

Spurs are selling out less and less according to my season ticket workmate so I see no reason they might not end up the next Sheffield Wednesday.

 

[California Bee]

I for one would laugh if they went down.

When we played them in the cup a couple of years ago, the Spurs fans sang ''sh*t ground, no fans.'' The Brentford fans replied with ''Big club, my arse.''

Spurs have a history & a pedigree - but then so do Blackpool. I know a few Spurs fans & they really do think that they ''Mean'' something in the current game. Do they feck. They are bad enough to go down, their ''Star'' player wants to bugger off to play for Mali rofl rofl rofl , their squad is very poor & they have a guy in charge of them who (with all due respect to the bloke) is just not a premiership manager anymore.

I think it is funny when the ''Mighty'' fall. Supporting a little club means that I cannot help taking amusement at the misfortune of a big club.

You seem to be saying that, on the one hand, Tottenham are not mighty...

"think that they ''Mean'' something in the current game. Do they feck".

On the other hand you want to see the "''Mighty'' fall" and you will take amusement at the misfortune of a big club".

Compared with almost all of the Premiership clubs we do have a "sh*t ground" and "no fans" and if the roles were reversed we would be saying the same thing to them.

If the "mighty" are going to fall, I want it to be Manchester United and Arsenal, not former great clubs like Spurs, Villa, Manchester City and Everton who are now struggling. Man U and Arsenal are the clubs who for years now have sucked the league dry of attention, money, talent, fans and trophies alike.

 

[Mr Tree]

You could say this about 89 of the 92 clubs in the league.

Tottenham have the following and the capacity to compete. I see nothing wrong with their ambition or with linking them with "big" names. Why you would get joy from their relegation escapes me. I could understand it if you wanted Arsenal or Man U to get relegated after all their years of dominating with money but Tottenham have been struggling to get back on par with these all-powerful monsters.

California Bee - u've already mentioned a slight allegiance and preference for spurs, so with all due respect, it's only natural u'd want to see them stay up. I'd say there are a fair few people around who want to see them go - it would be funny. They have a lot of fans who are very up themselves and actually believe they are a big club who are relevant. What a joke. Yes, i'd prefer to see Man U go, but Spurs would be quite high up on my wish list.

For what it's worth, shaun has pretty much hit the nail on the head for why their relegation would amuse me. But i imagine they'll survive :yawn:

 

[shaun]

You seem to be saying that, on the one hand, Tottenham are not mighty...

"think that they ''Mean'' something in the current game. Do they feck".

On the other hand you want to see the "''Mighty'' fall" and you will take amusement at the misfortune of a big club".

Compared with almost all of the Premiership clubs we do have a "sh*t ground" and "no fans" and if the roles were reversed we would be saying the same thing to them.

If the "mighty" are going to fall, I want it to be Manchester United and Arsenal, not former great clubs like Spurs, Villa, Manchester City and Everton who are now struggling. Man U and Arsenal are the clubs who for years now have sucked the league dry of attention, money, talent, fans and trophies alike.

The fans think they are a big club. I don't. Thats why I think it would be amusing if they went down. The Spurs fans I know are not the humblest lot in the world.

I personally have a lot of (albeit grudging) respect for what Man U have done. They broke Liverpool's hegemony, brought through a whole crop of young players who have become England internationals, continue to bring through young quality players, O'Shea, Brown, Fletcher & have supplemented that with some very wise signings (Van Nistleroy, Keane & Ferdinand - yes I know all abou tthe drugs issue).

 

[GABS]

Just found out that I have got a couple of tickets to the company corporate box at WHL tonight. Personally I will be behind Spurs 100% as I hate Brum scum (still) and would much rather Spurs
be in the Premier league as a London club than the dodgy sounding midlanders. I have invited an old workmate who is a Spurs fan and an occasional Bee (one of the thousands ! ) so it wont be all prawn sandwiches !

 

[Milton Keynes Bee]

Thumbs down to Spurs - would be delighted to see them drop and drop again.

 

[California Bee]

California Bee - u've already mentioned a slight allegiance and preference for spurs, so with all due respect, it's only natural u'd want to see them stay up. I'd say there are a fair few people around who want to see them go - it would be funny. They have a lot of fans who are very up themselves and actually believe they are a big club who are relevant. What a joke. Yes, i'd prefer to see Man U go, but Spurs would be quite high up on my wish list.

For what it's worth, shaun has pretty much hit the nail on the head for why their relegation would amuse me. But i imagine they'll survive :yawn:

Good post, D the B, and Shaun's too although Man U have used their wealth to weaken their opponents (eg Dwight Yorke, Eric Cantona, Teddy Sheringham, Rio Ferdinand and trying for Saha today) as well as to boost their own team.

I don't know about you but I go back a long way and in the late fifties/early sixties Tottenham Hotspur played football that was a joy to watch and lifted the standard of play in the league. John White, Cliff Jones, Dave Mackay and co were artists. This is the Tottenham I remember and they were also my Dad's team although he never took me there. Also, apart from the odd transaction like Greaves, they won it on the pitch, not in the chequebook and at other clubs' expense. So, yes, I would get no pleasure from Tottenham falling from grace. Arsenal. Manchester United are very successful businesses but they do it mostly with money. It's not just the money they spend on transfer-ins but also the money that makes them almost never have to put their own home-grown players on the market the way the rest of the league does.

 

[California Bee]

Man U have used their wealth to weaken their opponents (eg Dwight Yorke, Eric Cantona, Teddy Sheringham, Rio Ferdinand and trying for Saha today) as well as to boost their own team.

Here's what I'm talking about:

"Louis Saha today reportedly claimed Fulham had ruined the "chance of my life" by refusing to sell the Frenchman to Manchester United.

Fulham owner Mohamed al Fayed yesterday claimed he was "fed up" with United boss Sir Alex Ferguson's efforts to prise the striker away from the London club, while Cottagers manager Chris Coleman said he would not be "bullied" into selling the player."

 

[shaun]

Good post, D the B, and Shaun's too although Man U have used their wealth to weaken their opponents (eg Dwight Yorke, Eric Cantona, Teddy Sheringham, Rio Ferdinand and trying for Saha today) as well as to boost their own team.

I don't know about you but I go back a long way and in the late fifties/early sixties Tottenham Hotspur played football that was a joy to watch and lifted the standard of play in the league. John White, Cliff Jones, Dave Mackay and co were artists. This is the Tottenham I remember and they were also my Dad's team although he never took me there. Also, apart from the odd transaction like Greaves, they won it on the pitch, not in the chequebook and at other clubs' expense. So, yes, I would get no pleasure from Tottenham falling from grace. Arsenal. Manchester United are very successful businesses but they do it mostly with money. It's not just the money they spend on transfer-ins but also the money that makes them almost never have to put their own home-grown players on the market the way the rest of the league does.

If money/ buying funds was all it took, then Liverpool would be at the top of the league, Arsenal (Wenger has made a fortune for the club by buying great players cheaply) would be nowhere (their record signign was Wiltord @ £11mn) & Spurs would be a lot higher than they are now (how much did Rebrov & Keane cost? Probably 2x the whole Birmingham City squad).

 

[California Bee]

If money/ buying funds was all it took, then Liverpool would be at the top of the league, Arsenal (Wenger has made a fortune for the club by buying great players cheaply) would be nowhere (their record signign was Wiltord @ £11mn) & Spurs would be a lot higher than they are now (how much did Rebrov & Keane cost? Probably 2x the whole Birmingham City squad).

Whatever else is needed, a massive bag of cash is a prerequisite today thanks to Man U etc.

 

[California Bee]

If Spurs continue to play the way they did in today's 4-1 win over Birmingham City this thread will be moot in a few weeks.

 

[shaun]

If Spurs continue to play the way they did in today's 4-1 win over Birmingham City this thread will be moot in a few weeks.

''If''