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California Bee said:
If Spurs continue to play the way they did in today's 4-1 win over Birmingham City this thread will be moot in a few weeks.

Spurs were quite impressive going forward in the first half but I was equally unimpressed with the Birmingham performance. Dunn was the only player in blue to show any sort of form. Alot of the Spurs moves broke down due to players trying to do Dunn style flicks n tricks actually lol !

My MOM was Dalmat. Never seen him much before last night to be honest but he was VERY good.
 
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California Bee said:
My point is that Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and especially Manchester United have used their money to dominate the game for the past 25 years.

Agree Chelsea have this season, Liverpool have recent seasons. But Arsenal & Man Utd have actully spent little when sales are taken into consideration. Remember Man Utd sold Beckham & Veron for £40m this year and bought several players for considerably less than that.
It is the clubs who have spent money chasing success that have caused the problem, Leeds, Liverpool, Newcastle , Man City, Middlesboro, Chelsea have all spent fortunes over the last 5 years and have very little success to show for it, whereas Arsenal & Man Utd have traded well in the markets and have most of the sucess.
 

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GABS said:
Spurs were quite impressive going forward in the first half but I was equally unimpressed with the Birmingham performance. Dunn was the only player in blue to show any sort of form. Alot of the Spurs moves broke down due to players trying to do Dunn style flicks n tricks actually lol !

My MOM was Dalmat. Never seen him much before last night to be honest but he was VERY good.

Gabs, you lucky git! You probably caught the best spurs performance of the season. Are you now a converted spurs fan? ;)
 

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Gee Bee said:
Agree Chelsea have this season, Liverpool have recent seasons. But Arsenal & Man Utd have actully spent little when sales are taken into consideration. Remember Man Utd sold Beckham & Veron for £40m this year and bought several players for considerably less than that.
It is the clubs who have spent money chasing success that have caused the problem, Leeds, Liverpool, Newcastle , Man City, Middlesboro, Chelsea have all spent fortunes over the last 5 years and have very little success to show for it, whereas Arsenal & Man Utd have traded well in the markets and have most of the sucess.

Money does not show only in what is paid in transfers. Arsenal and Man Utd never have to sell their home-grown stars except when they want to as in Beckham's case. They add the Henrys, Vieras, Pieras, Bergkamps, Colemans, Yorkes, Cantonas, Silvestres, Blancs, Solsksjaers, Van Niilsteroys etc when they need one. They also acquire the best management that money can buy.

I think that the amount of money that Chelsea have had to spend in an effort to become competitive illustrates the extent of the financial gap that exisits between the rest of the league and Arsenal and Man Utd. We have become anaesthetised to the stranglehold monopoly that these few clubs hold on British football. There is no outrage and there is no competition and the smaller clubs are in serious peril. The media silently acquiesces as do the authorities. There are probably more Man Utd fans within five miles of Griffin Park then there are Brentford fans. The same is probably true with most clubs in the League. What's wrong with this picture?
 

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Gee Bee said:
Agree Chelsea have this season, Liverpool have recent seasons. But Arsenal & Man Utd have actully spent little when sales are taken into consideration. Remember Man Utd sold Beckham & Veron for £40m this year and bought several players for considerably less than that.
It is the clubs who have spent money chasing success that have caused the problem, Leeds, Liverpool, Newcastle , Man City, Middlesboro, Chelsea have all spent fortunes over the last 5 years and have very little success to show for it, whereas Arsenal & Man Utd have traded well in the markets and have most of the sucess.

To suggest that Manchester United aren't THE big spenders in England is absolutely laughable. Have a look at the record transfer fees paid over the last 30 or 40 years and one team name keeps popping up again and again - Manchester United.

To give just a few examples, in England at present they have:

The most expensive player - Rio Ferdinand £29.1m
The most expensive teenager - Cristiano Ronaldo £12.24m
The most expensive striker - Ruud Van Nistleroy £19m

The fee they paid for Juan Veron was also the 2nd highest ever in England when they bought him in 2001 for £28.1m.

The information was sourced from http://www.footballtransfers.co.uk/records/rectrans.asp?nationID=1

As I don't have any books to hand, I could add other names like Jaap Stam & Gary Pallister who set transfer records for defenders and other players who were the record fee like Bryan Robson, they only really missed out on one name from the record transfer list in recent years and that was Alan Shearer and Ferguson never misses an opportunity to snipe at him.

If having the British record signing (signings if you count positional records as well) on your books for most of the last 40 years is showing restraint in the transfer market then god help us if they ever decide to get their cheque books out.

As for Manchester United trading well in the transfer market - that hasn't always been the case. Don't forget it took them 25 years to buy the title and they have swallowed a few hefty losses in recent times on players like Veron & Barthez. Even with the losses they'll still carry on spending and still make sure they have the transfer record for years to come.
 
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California Bee said:
Money does not show only in what is paid in transfers. Arsenal and Man Utd never have to sell their home-grown stars except when they want to as in Beckham's case. They add the Henrys, Vieras, Pieras, Bergkamps, Colemans, Yorkes, Cantonas, Silvestres, Blancs, Solsksjaers, Van Niilsteroys etc when they need one. They also acquire the best management that money can buy.

I think that the amount of money that Chelsea have had to spend in an effort to become competitive illustrates the extent of the financial gap that exisits between the rest of the league and Arsenal and Man Utd. We have become anaesthetised to the stranglehold monopoly that these few clubs hold on British football. There is no outrage and there is no competition and the smaller clubs are in serious peril. The media silently acquiesces as do the authorities. There are probably more Man Utd fans within five miles of Griffin Park then there are Brentford fans. The same is probably true with most clubs in the League. What's wrong with this picture?

Surely that ''Monopoly'' exists across Europe though? It is not a regional quirk. Look at who wins the leagues in the big European legaues year after year (for a long time).

When I was at schoool in the 70s, there were more Liverpool fans in Feltham than there were Brentford fans. People like to support successful clubs - its a fact of life (except for freaks like us!!). When Livepool were dominant in the 70s/ 80s there was no ''Outrage'' then. I wonder if Dalglish or Keegan would have gone to Lioverpool if they were not a top team no doubt paying top dollar.

Football is cyclical. When Fayed gets bored of Fulham they will fall like a stone, because they do not have a ''natural'' platform to support their curent position (i.e. fan base, stadium) & Chelsea (who have actually brought too many players) will be in a similiar positon, albeit to a lesser extent, when Mr Ruski gets bored.

Some clubs have always been richer than others - that is just a fact of life. Daglish would not have gone to Blackburn without Walkers money just as Erikkson (I suspect) would not goto Chelsea after Euro 04 without the Russian Rouble.
 

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shaun said:
Surely that ''Monopoly'' exists across Europe though? It is not a regional quirk. Look at who wins the leagues in the big European legaues year after year (for a long time).

When I was at schoool in the 70s, there were more Liverpool fans in Feltham than there were Brentford fans. People like to support successful clubs - its a fact of life (except for freaks like us!!). When Livepool were dominant in the 70s/ 80s there was no ''Outrage'' then. I wonder if Dalglish or Keegan would have gone to Lioverpool if they were not a top team no doubt paying top dollar.

Football is cyclical. When Fayed gets bored of Fulham they will fall like a stone, because they do not have a ''natural'' platform to support their curent position (i.e. fan base, stadium) & Chelsea (who have actually brought too many players) will be in a similiar positon, albeit to a lesser extent, when Mr Ruski gets bored.

Some clubs have always been richer than others - that is just a fact of life. Daglish would not have gone to Blackburn without Walkers money just as Erikkson (I suspect) would not goto Chelsea after Euro 04 without the Russian Rouble.


Everything you've mentioned speaks to money. We may be in violent agreement on this. People used to support their local club and the fans and the team all worked towards promotion and championships with at least the hope of achieving it some day. Now, fans and players alike know they will only win something if their team is one of the tiny group of monied clubs who can buy the best talent so they support Liverpool or Manchester United or whoever is the current monopoly giant.
 

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California Bee said:
Everything you've mentioned speaks to money. We may be in violent agreement on this.

Looks like we are, only difference is how much are Spurs culprits in this.......!

The only hope I see is that is widely becoming realised amongst the powers (FA, media etc) that be that the Premiershite is becoming boring and as a sporting contest totally flawed due to the 3/4 clubs with so much of a resources gap over everbody else.

Souness's comments this week were interesting in that he said as much and that what was the point of everybody else trying to compete??

What the answer is I don't know, it certainly isn't dodgy Russian billionaires taking over clubs. My guess is something dramatic needs to happen like a Leeds or Man City going bust to give a wakeup call to the FA and others to change how the wealth of football is distributed. The FA taking on Manu over Ferdinand is a slight ray of hope as this is where the true battle will be won or lost.
 

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Here we go again

"Celtic offered Liam Miller the chance to become one of the best-paid young players in Scottish football history but that does not look like being enough to stop him signing for Manchester United.

Martin O'Neill's jubilation at finally landing Stephen Pearson was tempered on Thursday with the shock news that Miller was on the verge of signing a pre-contract agreement with the English giants."
 

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NYC BEE said:
Gabs, you lucky git! You probably caught the best spurs performance of the season. Are you now a converted spurs fan? ;)

"And its Ol' Southampton..." lol
 

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Rebrov with some astonishing advice for pavlyuchenko

rebrov with some advice for his compatriot upon joining spurs

Rebrov told Russian magazine Football Weekly: 'A lot of dark-skinned people live there. So naturally the crime rate is higher than anywhere else. It is not nice to be a robbery victim. So I suggest that Roman doesn't walk but drives around that area.
 

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................................sound advice..........................
 

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lol silly Rebrov.

Unfortunately it's probably true, but whether or not the cause is their blackness or poverty is another debate. I must admit, I wouldn't fancy slumming it in Tott-ing-ham.
 

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lol silly Rebrov.

Unfortunately it's probably true, but whether or not the cause is their blackness or poverty is another debate. I must admit, I wouldn't fancy slumming it in Tott-ing-ham.

And it's also true of many other parts of London, and most big cities in Europe, probably including Moscow and Kiev where race wouldn't be an issue.

If someone displaying very obvious excessive wealth (car, suit, jewellery etc) wanders around a poor area, he's at risk of getting mugged.

On the other hand, if Darren Bent or Jermaine Jenas wandered around Moscow, they might well get beaten up for their colour, irrespective of any display of wealth
 

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I have nothing to say about this "big club"other than

rofl lol rofl lol rofl lol rofl lol rofl lol

Seems even more appropriate today.
 

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.....................doing what I hoped they would...........................
 

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Glory Hunter chose the right season for it.
 

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They were shocking , given how the three that have come up have settled in reasonably well teams like Spurs should be very afraid...of relegation
 

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after all the p155taking when we were bottom when we had our bad ahem, patch, I can finally laugh...
HA HA HA
bottom of the league ! How does it feel ?
Yiiiiiidddddoooooossssssssssssssssss, mugs !
 

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Sorry GH, but.

rofl rofl rofl lol lol lol rofl rofl rofl
 

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after all the p155taking when we were bottom when we had our bad ahem, patch, I can finally laugh...
HA HA HA
bottom of the league ! How does it feel ?
Yiiiiiidddddoooooossssssssssssssssss, mugs !

I was unaware of any Spurs "pisstaking" of Brentord's recent nadir. :scratch:

I am sure they don;t care either way :confused::confused:
 

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Sorry Spurs fans

:rolleyes:
A seven-year-old boy was at the centre of a London courtroom drama today when he challenged a court ruling over who should have custody of him.

The boy has a history of being beaten by his parents and the judge initially awarded custody to his aunt, in keeping with child custody law and regulations requiring that family unity be maintained to the degree possible.

The boy surprised the court when he proclaimed that his aunt beat him more than his parents and he adamantly refused to live with her. When the judge then suggested that he live with his grandparents, the boy cried out that they also beat him.

After considering the remainder of the immediate family and learning that domestic violence was apparently a way of life among them, the judge took the unprecedented step of allowing the boy to propose who should have custody of him. After two recesses to check legal references and confer with child welfare officials, the judge granted temporary custody to Tottenham Hotspur Football Club, whom the boy firmly believes are incapable of beating anyone.
 

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:rolleyes:
A seven-year-old boy was at the centre of a London courtroom drama today when he challenged a court ruling over who should have custody of him.

The boy has a history of being beaten by his parents and the judge initially awarded custody to his aunt, in keeping with child custody law and regulations requiring that family unity be maintained to the degree possible.

The boy surprised the court when he proclaimed that his aunt beat him more than his parents and he adamantly refused to live with her. When the judge then suggested that he live with his grandparents, the boy cried out that they also beat him.

After considering the remainder of the immediate family and learning that domestic violence was apparently a way of life among them, the judge took the unprecedented step of allowing the boy to propose who should have custody of him. After two recesses to check legal references and confer with child welfare officials, the judge granted temporary custody to Tottenham Hotspur Football Club, whom the boy firmly believes are incapable of beating anyone.

Very funny :sorted: lol lol lol
 

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Had this sent to me yesterday:

'The world of football was rocked to its very foundations last night, when the controversial proposed bailout of Tottenham Hotspur FC was unanimously rejected by the Premier League. The Spurs crisis began in 2006 when the Board inexplicably began to invest substantial sums in so-called subprime footballers, each of whom is now effectively worthless.

"No-one bothered to check if these players had any ability to pay back the enormous sums that had been invested in them," said one anguished fan, "...the club just assumed their value would keep on rising."

With pressure growing from nervous creditors, Spurs were obliged to sell their remaining valuable players like Berbatov and Keane, leaving behind only 'toxic assets' like Bentley and Pavlyuchenko. "We spent £29million on that pair....seems crazy now doesn't it?" It is impossible to tell what they're worth now, because demand for such expensive mediocrity has completely dried up.

Spurs had begged the Premier League to create a bailout fund to purchase their entire first-team squad, thus freeing up the club's finances to re-invest in more competent replacements. As confidence in Spurs began to evaporate meanwhile, other richer clubs became increasingly unwilling to lend to them, except on prohibitively stringent terms.

"We were rather hoping for Carlos Tevez from Manchester United," confirmed a club insider, "...but they'd only lend us Frazier Campbell." However administrators were unrepentant, adamant that Spurs were not after all 'too big to fail'.

After a weekend of often emotional deliberations, they voted not to set a dangerous precedent. "We refused to bail out Derby County last season," admitted a Premier League spokesman, "...though to be fair they had more points at this stage.'
 

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Just heard on the midday news that apparently an unknown number of Tottenham Hotspur supporters had to be admitted to hospital early this morning suffering from the effects of shock after mistaking a road sign on the A503 reading Walthamstow 1 Tottenham 3 for a late football result.
 

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I heard yesterday that Tottenham had changed their nickname from "Spurs" to "The Cocktail Sticks "

Because of the two points they both have !

lol
 

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please go down i hate you and your fans
 

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Hope we get them in FA Cup - we'd probably beat them and most prem teams we play end up going down pretty soon after
 

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Apparently Darren Bent has said that former manager Juande Ramos only spoke four words to him during his spell as manager.

These four come to mind:

"You are f****** sh!te".
 

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Although they have had a revival under Harry Boy, I reckon they could remain in trouble if they don't sort out their goalkeeping crisis. The clown that is their number one has to be one of the worse goalkeepers that I have ever seen in the Premiership.
 

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...........massive club who will hopefully be back where they belong.........................
 

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Apparently Darren Bent has said that former manager Juande Ramos only spoke four words to him during his spell as manager.

These four come to mind:

"You are f****** sh!te".

Bent apparently said something about 4 words in 2 years, which suggests a poor grasp of time, as I think Ramos didn't even make it to 13 months
 

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The same players who couldn't be arsed under Ramos are now prepared to play their nuts off for Redknapp. Apparently he talks to them and tells them how good they are and they respond. Bless..... If I was a supporter of THFC I would be royally pissed with this group of players. It was the same when Christian Gross trained them too hard and they got him the shove only to "improve" under Jol.
 

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England manager, my a@@e!

inflated transfer fees paid, moaning about the squad being too small, struggling to beat people - same old Harry , the people's favourite:D
 

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Burnley have been brilliant. Pav missed a great chance to make it safe for Spurs.
 

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The same players who couldn't be arsed under Ramos are now prepared to play their nuts off for Redknapp. Apparently he talks to them and tells them how good they are and they respond. Bless..... If I was a supporter of THFC I would be royally pissed with this group of players. It was the same when Christian Gross trained them too hard and they got him the shove only to "improve" under Jol.

:confused: Christian Gross managed Spurs in 1997. It was six coaches and seven years before Jol took over.
 

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Cant help but feel sorry for Burnley tonight, they just ran out of steam towards the end of extra time. Shame.

Regards,
Humphrey
 

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unlucky Burnley
 
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