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Yoane Wissa

You can “wow” as much you like. But we can’t defend and haven’t been able to for 18 months. So let’s sell the only certainty to get into double figures goalscoring-wise. Toney probably (almost certainly) won’t be here. Thiago won’t be around until next year. Mbeumo will work like a trojan and get his customary 8-10 goals. And neither Schade nor Lewis-Potter have shown any of us they can perform at this level, let alone score the necessary number of goals.

So let’s sell Wissa, eh?
I don't think anyone is advocating to sell both but if nobody bids for Toney then what do we do if there is a substantial offer for Wissa?
 

Yoane Wissa

You can “wow” as much you like. But we can’t defend and haven’t been able to for 18 months. So let’s sell the only certainty to get into double figures goalscoring-wise. Toney probably (almost certainly) won’t be here. Thiago won’t be around until next year. Mbeumo will work like a trojan and get his customary 8-10 goals. And neither Schade nor Lewis-Potter have shown any of us they can perform at this level, let alone score the necessary number of goals.

So let’s sell Wissa, eh?

He gets 9 a season, if we can get good money sell him, we have just bought better,
 

Yoane Wissa

He gets 9 a season, if we can get good money sell him, we have just bought better,
And just how hard has it been finding and finalising a player of higher quality on the wing. Pointless to sell if we didn't know 100% for sure by end of window we'd have a better quality player in the door.

Injuries last season left us very short.
 

Yoane Wissa

He played pre season for Liverpool on the left of the front 3.
Ok that is not his normal position having seen him for Fulham and Hull - even so he doesn't play as a striker so cannot compare to Wissa who does and will if Toney goes
 

Yoane Wissa

Whilst we could be tempted to cash in on Yoane I don’t think the timing quite works. With Igor out and the situation with Ivan uncertain the comfort i have is that Yoane playing through the middle for 5 months will get 8 - 10 goals. If we sold him and Ivan did move on (assuming this isn’t an either/or situation) I think we would struggle to replace those goals with any certainty with the money we would likely get… and I suspect we wouldn’t get as much as some are suggesting.
 

Yoane Wissa

We’d miss him hugely if he left. His mins per goal ratio when played through the middle are very good - easily missed when he’s played so much out wide. Fact is when he plays through the middle, he scores goals. In the Premier League. That’s worth ALOT.

…and given both our striking options in that position are either injured or want out (and we havnt got our backup in Maupay), unless we have a replacement lined up or Toney is staying, this transfer would be absolute madness imo
 

Yoane Wissa

Carvalho is not a striker..he plays in the 10 behind or right side of a 3

Left/right side of a three, the same position Wissa has played in 90% of his games more or less. We have Shade and Potter who can do that to.

I doubt there is much in this but would be more concerned if CN, MJ, EP or BM were in the news to be honest.
 

Yoane Wissa

Sell Wissa for 30million bring back Neil for next to nothing.
All these stats about goals, Neil got six in half a season , being quoted that Wissa may get 10-15, so who says Neil wont?.......Anyway just saying !!
Be all the same if Wissa got injured......oh no what we going to do then?!!!
 

Yoane Wissa

Yoane Wissa

It does not matter what we paid for them, it's about maximising profit without damaging the club. That means selling Toney this summer, not Wissa or Mbuemo.
Pretty sure everyone knows that. But if there’s no buyer for Toney and we decide there’s value in keeping him and letting him see out his contract while making a profit on Yoane that’s not damaging the club is it?
 

Yoane Wissa

We’ve just paid 27mil for Carvalho who has no experience in the league. If he scored 12 goals next season we’d expect him to be worth more than the 27 we’ve paid for him. I understand he’s younger than Wissa but Wissa is far more proven. I wouldn’t be selling him for less than 40mil
 

Yoane Wissa

Yoane Wissa

Yoane Wissa

Sell Wissa for 30million bring back Neil for next to nothing.
All these stats about goals, Neil got six in half a season , being quoted that Wissa may get 10-15, so who says Neil wont?.......Anyway just saying !!
Be all the same if Wissa got injured......oh no what we going to do then?!!!
That would be a massive down grade. Wissa offers so much more to the team than Neal. I understand you might want to sell Wissa but we would need to replace him with better than Neal. I think you would struggle to get better than Wissa for £25m which is the fee being reported.
 

Yoane Wissa

I think if we could get near £30mio for a player who wouldn’t be in the first choice starting 11 when people are fit then unfortunately we have to remove the sentiment from it. I love his character and personality but the guy deserves to be a regular starter somewhere. It’s how we operate and the fundamental thing behind our model. I also have complete faith in the judgement by TF and all of a players ceiling after being with us for a few years.
 

Yoane Wissa

I think if we could get near £30mio for a player who wouldn’t be in the first choice starting 11 when people are fit then unfortunately we have to remove the sentiment from it. I love his character and personality but the guy deserves to be a regular starter somewhere. It’s how we operate and the fundamental thing behind our model. I also have complete faith in the judgement by TF and all of a players ceiling after being with us for a few years.
If we play a front 3, he starts every week for me. He is currently better than Schade.
 

Yoane Wissa

Sincerely hope this doesn’t happen. Our £30 million striker out till Xmas maybe, Toney quite possibly off. Who is going to play through the middle and score the goals we need. We’ve just been through a season with an injury hit squad, I can’t believe we would weaken the team UNLESS they have another player lined up to take his place who’s better. Just hope this is all the usual click bait crap.
 
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Yoane Wissa

Wissa is a top forward. He has been second choice or subbed too many times when IMHO it wasn’t justified. He’s a real team player and very popular with fans and players alike. I would hate to see him leave but equally would understand if he wanted to move on.

Edit: I remember when Andrew Cole was sold to United. Geordies were apoplectic with rage. Newcastle then signed Shearer and all was forgiven. I wonder if PG has a similar marquee replacement lined up.
 

Yoane Wissa

I don't think we should be selling Wissa for anything less than £30m. Finding a replacement for him in the squad would probably prove to be difficult at this time so I wouldn't be keen for him to depart.
 

Yoane Wissa

Crazy, absolutely crazy.

Oh well, there’s always Peart-Harris I suppose.
 

Yoane Wissa

I don't think we should be selling Wissa for anything less than £30m. Finding a replacement for him in the squad would probably prove to be difficult at this time so I wouldn't be keen for him to depart.
Understatement of the year.
 

Yoane Wissa

I think if we could get near £30mio for a player who wouldn’t be in the first choice starting 11 when people are fit then unfortunately we have to remove the sentiment from it. I love his character and personality but the guy deserves to be a regular starter somewhere. It’s how we operate and the fundamental thing behind our model. I also have complete faith in the judgement by TF and all of a players ceiling after being with us for a few years.
Although there’s defo sentiment involved. It’s more than that…

Say we accept. Wissa goes. Leaves us with one forward who may not be here in 2 weeks and another out till end of year. People will say what about Kev? he’s gonna be great, but that evolution to out and out Prem scorer still in its infancy.

So, we’d buy another. Well, they’d need to be raring to go and strikers are expensive. Probably looking at no less than 10-15m. More if they’re based in Britain. Question is profit at what price?
 

Yoane Wissa

If we play a front 3, he starts every week for me. He is currently better than Schade.
Not on the left wing, he can only really effective playing as a CF. I believe that Schade’s ceiling is much higher, yes he needs to improve but he needs games to do that. Wissa will not be 1st choice in the medium/long term and what would be his reaction if he doesn’t get the move? Again I’m not saying what will happen but if we did agree to sell him for a decent price then I won’t call for heads to roll.
 

Yoane Wissa

Although there’s defo sentiment involved. It’s more than that…

Say we accept. Wissa goes. Leaves us with one forward who may not be here in 2 weeks and another out till end of year. People will say what about Kev? he’s gonna be great, but that evolution to out and out Prem scorer still in its infancy.

So, we’d buy another. Well, they’d need to be raring to go and strikers are expensive. Probably looking at no less than 10-15m. More if they’re based in Britain. Question is profit at what price?
We don’t know what formation we will be playing yet or where the plan is to play Fabio. If we keep Toney then we have Igor and I also think we will end up playing Schade down the middle. Wissa has never been effective playing out wide, he is a natural CF.
 

Yoane Wissa

We don’t know what formation we will be playing yet or where the plan is to play Fabio. If we keep Toney then we have Igor and I also think we will end up playing Schade down the middle. Wissa has never been effective playing out wide, he is a natural CF.
You’re right that we can’t be sure about formation. But having read quite a bit about Fabio wanting to play no.10 and TF mentioning 4231 approach upon signing, one could infer it’s a strong possibility.

On Yoane. He have Igor and in a way we don’t. Effectively missed a lot of pre-season and will be few months behind rest of the team. Have to be prepared that he may not adapt as quickly as we need. Ivan might go and even if he doesn’t, might there be resentment that Yo is going?

It opens up a few uncertainties and risk when that’s last thing we need
 
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