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From the Telegraph

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...peremiliano-martinez-wanted-former-boss-unai/

"Arsenal would be expected to replace Martinez if he leaves and they have expressed genuine interest in Brentford goalkeeper David Raya.

"Raya is understood to be hugely excited by the prospect of moving to Arsenal and reuniting with Inaki Cana Pavon, the former Brentford goalkeeping coach who joined Arteta’s coaching staff in December.

"But Brentford are insistent that the goalkeeper, who was one of their most important players last season, is not available this summer.

"Brentford have a reputation for selling players for a profit but they will not allow mass departures from the squad that came so close to securing Premier League promotion last season. "

Telegraph Sport understands they are currently not even willing to begin negotiations over the 24 year-old, who joined the club from Blackburn Rovers last year for around £3 million and would be willing to compete with Leno for a starting position.



Entirely accurate from what I understand
 

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Banana said:
From the Telegraph

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...peremiliano-martinez-wanted-former-boss-unai/

"Arsenal would be expected to replace Martinez if he leaves and they have expressed genuine interest in Brentford goalkeeper David Raya.

"Raya is understood to be hugely excited by the prospect of moving to Arsenal and reuniting with Inaki Cana Pavon, the former Brentford goalkeeping coach who joined Arteta’s coaching staff in December.

"But Brentford are insistent that the goalkeeper, who was one of their most important players last season, is not available this summer.

"Brentford have a reputation for selling players for a profit but they will not allow mass departures from the squad that came so close to securing Premier League promotion last season. "



Entirely accurate from what I understand
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We don’t usually sell after one season .. 2-3 seasons is the usual shelf life these days.
 

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Banana said:
From the Telegraph

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...peremiliano-martinez-wanted-former-boss-unai/

"Arsenal would be expected to replace Martinez if he leaves and they have expressed genuine interest in Brentford goalkeeper David Raya.

"Raya is understood to be hugely excited by the prospect of moving to Arsenal and reuniting with Inaki Cana Pavon, the former Brentford goalkeeping coach who joined Arteta’s coaching staff in December.

"But Brentford are insistent that the goalkeeper, who was one of their most important players last season, is not available this summer.

"Brentford have a reputation for selling players for a profit but they will not allow mass departures from the squad that came so close to securing Premier League promotion last season. "



Entirely accurate from what I understand
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So based on this, the next questions are:

1. Has he had a genuine 'knock' or was he not in the right frame of mind?
2. Will he do a 'juggy'? One would like to think not, but you never know. I only suspect this, because he's been left out of the squad for the last 2 games.

I would like to think he will get his head down and work hard to get us promoted. He has only given us one season and BFC deserve more than that.
 

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Simon W said:
We don’t usually sell after one season .. 2-3 seasons is the usual shelf life these days.
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Also, keepers can have a long career if managed right. The need to move to get to a higher level at his age is lower than for a striker. Going from first choice to a largely non-playing sub is not necessarily the way to become a top level first choice. Another season for him like last season, topped off by promotion and then a season as our number 1 in the PL makes him a 26 year old keeper with 38 PL appearances. If he’s performed well then he has his pick of top clubs here and in Europe and maybe even an international career. Move to Arsenal now and he might not play 38 league games in the rest of his career.
 

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Ring, ring:

Hi Phil, ... no, it's not about Folarin... are you interested in selling Davis Raya, just asking for a friend? OK, that's clear...

Dial tone...
 

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AB said:
Also, keepers can have a long career if managed right. The need to move to get to a higher level at his age is lower than for a striker. Going from first choice to a largely non-playing sub is not necessarily the way to become a top level first choice. Another season for him like last season, topped off by promotion and then a season as our number 1 in the PL makes him a 26 year old keeper with 38 PL appearances. If he’s performed well then he has his pick of top clubs here and in Europe and maybe even an international career. Move to Arsenal now and he might not play 38 league games in the rest of his career.
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Agree ... (Luke Daniels must be on a good contract to be happy to stay here as number 2 what is it 3 seasons now?) and started less than 15 first team games?

I’m wondering if they are expecting Balcome to be the next first choice? But he is probably a season away from being ready, so keeping Raya another season would make sense plus his value can only increase if he has another good year?
 

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Great stuff , what a week so far !
 

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As long as he doesn’t try the old Tarkowski trick of needing to move closer to his Mum in Highbury.
 

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Banana said:
From the Telegraph

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...peremiliano-martinez-wanted-former-boss-unai/

"Arsenal would be expected to replace Martinez if he leaves and they have expressed genuine interest in Brentford goalkeeper David Raya.

"Raya is understood to be hugely excited by the prospect of moving to Arsenal and reuniting with Inaki Cana Pavon, the former Brentford goalkeeping coach who joined Arteta’s coaching staff in December.

"But Brentford are insistent that the goalkeeper, who was one of their most important players last season, is not available this summer.

"Brentford have a reputation for selling players for a profit but they will not allow mass departures from the squad that came so close to securing Premier League promotion last season. "

Telegraph Sport understands they are currently not even willing to begin negotiations over the 24 year-old, who joined the club from Blackburn Rovers last year for around £3 million and would be willing to compete with Leno for a starting position.



Entirely accurate from what I understand
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Is he 'hugely excited?' Worries me if he is.
 

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Simon W said:
Agree ... (Luke Daniels must be on a good contract to be happy to stay here as number 2 what is it 3 seasons now?) and started less than 15 first team games?

I’m wondering if they are expecting Balcome to be the next first choice? But he is probably a season away from being ready, so keeping Raya another season would make sense plus his value can only increase if he has another good year?
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Balcombe has hardly got any first-team experience. I would think Gunnarsson would be closer
 

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swr22 said:
Balcombe has hardly got any first-team experience. I would think Gunnarsson would be closer
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To be fair, Gunnarsson only has 20 mins (v Boro) more than Balcome. But we have two talented young keepers on our hands. Could Daniels move on in this window?
 

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Simon W said:
To be fair, Gunnarsson only has 20 mins (v Boro) more than Balcome. But we have two talented young keepers on our hands. Could Daniels move on in this window?
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No way, with the uncertainty over Raya and going into a season with a No.2 who has virtually no league experience at all. Daniels will stay put. If Daniels has to step up at any stage I've got complete faith in the bloke he's always been a very competent performer for us whenever called upon and he has made it clear he's happy at the club on several occasions.
 

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Simon W said:
To be fair, Gunnarsson only has 20 mins (v Boro) more than Balcome. But we have two talented young keepers on our hands. Could Daniels move on in this window?
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He signed a longer-term contract. Gunarsson also had a longer loan move to Southend (I believe Balcombe was injured at Viborg) and seems to have been on the bench more. Pecking order not so important at the moment as where they will both be in a year or two, I suppose. Will be interesting to see which one establishes themselves as our Number 1 in the future.
 

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Balders Bee said:
No way, with the uncertainty over Raya and going into a season with a No.2 who has virtually no league experience at all. Daniels will stay put. If Daniels has to step up at any stage I've got complete faith in the bloke he's always been a very competent performer for us whenever called upon and he has made it clear he's happy at the club on several occasions.
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My comment was based on Raya staying :shrug:
 

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Must be a question as to whether he plays the first league game, having not featured at all in the past two games? I assume he was available for selection, unlike others.
 

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League Cup is where decent fringe/reserve players get a run out.
 

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Fascinating to see if he plays on Saturday. TF has made it clear he’s going nowhere. Is he injured or “injured”?
 

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They should all be available. I am at a loss to understand the mentality who maybe could have or should have done better against Fulham being rested
 

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Isleworth_Bee said:
Weird one as you would think that he needs some form of minutes.
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Not if he's got a genuine knock which seems to be the case.

I think on this one we have to believe the club. They've made it clear that Oli and Said are available at the right price.

If we were genuinely happy to sell Raya and this was the reason he wasn't playing then I don't believe that the club would BS and say he's got a knock, it's not really our style.
 

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Doovster said:
Not if he's got a genuine knock which seems to be the case.

I think on this one we have to believe the club. They've made it clear that Oli and Said are available at the right price.

If we were genuinely happy to sell Raya and this was the reason he wasn't playing then I don't believe that the club would BS and say he's got a knock, it's not really our style.
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Agree. For that reason i can see Daniels starting against Brum.
 

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Doovster said:
Not if he's got a genuine knock which seems to be the case.

I think on this one we have to believe the club. They've made it clear that Oli and Said are available at the right price.

If we were genuinely happy to sell Raya and this was the reason he wasn't playing then I don't believe that the club would BS and say he's got a knock, it's not really our style.
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....i realise i'm probably at risk of receiving a head banging off a brick wall emoji....but i'm not sure about this one mate......whether he's carrying a knock or otherwise.....i reckon that goalie coach at the Arsenal really rates our fella....and if they offer enough......
 

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JCMcBee said:
....i realise i'm probably at risk of receiving a head banging off a brick wall emoji....but i'm not sure about this one mate......whether he's carrying a knock or otherwise.....i reckon that goalie coach at the Arsenal really rates our fella....and if they offer enough......
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Obviosuly there is always a figure that you can't say no to, but the chances of Arsenal reaching that figure have got to be slim to nothing. TF has been pretty clear that the squad are not for sale with the two obvious exceptions and I think he would be pretty annoyed if that turned out not to be the case. Raya will have to go the full Tarkowski to get out and even that might not succeed which would leave him right up the creek. My guess is he will play on Saturday.
 

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jbee said:
Obviosuly there is always a figure that you can't say no to, but the chances of Arsenal reaching that figure have got to be slim to nothing. TF has been pretty clear that the squad are not for sale with the two obvious exceptions and I think he would be pretty annoyed if that turned out not to be the case. Raya will have to go the full Tarkowski to get out and even that might not succeed which would leave him right up the creek. My guess is he will play on Saturday.
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.....he's a good goalkeeper....great distribution and shot stopper....a risk taker....a little bit mad....like all good goalies....and he's brave....you could argue we plucked him from obscurity and rebuilt his confidence....guess we're good at that.......but my point is/was he's premiership standard.....and if Arsenal can see that...and they want him bad enough....not sure BFC will stand in his way
 

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JCMcBee said:
.....he's a good goalkeeper....great distribution and shot stopper....a risk taker....a little bit mad....like all good goalies....and he's brave....you could argue we plucked him from obscurity and rebuilt his confidence....guess we're good at that.......but my point is/was he's premiership standard.....and if Arsenal can see that...and they want him bad enough....not sure BFC will stand in his way
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Fair enough. I don’t think we’ll have any qualms about standing in his way. We have ambitions too.
 

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The best goalkeeper we have had for a long time but his mistakes against Stoke and Fulham cost us promotion
 

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JCMcBee said:
.....he's a good goalkeeper....great distribution and shot stopper....a risk taker....a little bit mad....like all good goalies....and he's brave....you could argue we plucked him from obscurity and rebuilt his confidence....guess we're good at that.......but my point is/was he's premiership standard.....and if Arsenal can see that...and they want him bad enough....not sure BFC will stand in his way
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Every player has a price, because an overvaluation and we can progress. However, I think keepers are hard to replace especially Rayas quality of distribution as Prem teams want that now. He is so comfortable on the ball and suits Franks tactics to build from the back to danger areas. I think this comes down to he's overvalued even by us because there isn't a replacement they could just bring in, otherwise Daniels would have gone now and that person would have come in to replace Raya if and when he goes.
 

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JCMcBee said:
....i realise i'm probably at risk of receiving a head banging off a brick wall emoji....but i'm not sure about this one mate......whether he's carrying a knock or otherwise.....i reckon that goalie coach at the Arsenal really rates our fella....and if they offer enough......
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I have no doubt Arsenal rate him. I just genuinely think we want promotion too and have our own ambitions and on occasion will actually say tough sh1t, you've only been here 1 season, and you're staying.
 

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Doovster said:
I have no doubt Arsenal rate him. I just genuinely think we want promotion too and have our own ambitions and on occasion will actually say tough sh1t, you've only been here 1 season, and you're staying.
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Yes, I believe the conversation has been had, and it's been put to bed.

TF said in his pre-match press-conference that only 2 players are for sale, and the rest are NOT for sale. What more can the club say.

I am told that Raya has a genuine knee injury and I don't think I would be overtly lied to...
 

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Banana said:
Yes, I believe the conversation has been had, and it's been put to bed.

TF said in his pre-match press-conference that only 2 players are for sale, and the rest are NOT for sale. What more can the club say.

I am told that Raya has a genuine knee injury and I don't think I would be overtly lied to...
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......that'll be that then....close the thread.
 

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Banana said:
Yes, I believe the conversation has been had, and it's been put to bed.

TF said in his pre-match press-conference that only 2 players are for sale, and the rest are NOT for sale. What more can the club say.

I am told that Raya has a genuine knee injury and I don't think I would be overtly lied to...
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Any idea how bad the knee injury is or when we might see him back?
 

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From the Athletic in the past hour or so:

Aston Villa have lodged a second bid for Arsenal goalkeeper Emiliano Martinez and are waiting to see if they can land their man, reports Gregg Evans.

The Athletic understands the 28-year-old wants to be a first-choice this season but has not been told whether he will retain the No 1 jersey as Bernd Leno is back in contention for the opener with Fulham this weekend. Leno missed the end of last season through injury and Martinez impressed in his absence.

Villa, who are understood to have submitted a bid which is now substantially closer to Arsenal’s £20million asking price, can offer Martinez a starting spot as Tom Heaton is out with a knee injury and will miss the start of the campaign.

Arsenal will not let the Argentinian leave unless they can get their desired replacement in, though, and this is the sticking point.

Mikel Arteta’s top target is Brentford’s David Raya but the Championship promotion hopefuls are adamant he is not for sale, so at this point it means there is still some way to go before Villa find out whether they can bring Martinez in.
 

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Banana said:
From the Athletic in the past hour or so:

Aston Villa have lodged a second bid for Arsenal goalkeeper Emiliano Martinez and are waiting to see if they can land their man, reports Gregg Evans.

The Athletic understands the 28-year-old wants to be a first-choice this season but has not been told whether he will retain the No 1 jersey as Bernd Leno is back in contention for the opener with Fulham this weekend. Leno missed the end of last season through injury and Martinez impressed in his absence.

Villa, who are understood to have submitted a bid which is now substantially closer to Arsenal’s £20million asking price, can offer Martinez a starting spot as Tom Heaton is out with a knee injury and will miss the start of the campaign.

Arsenal will not let the Argentinian leave unless they can get their desired replacement in, though, and this is the sticking point.

Mikel Arteta’s top target is Brentford’s David Raya but the Championship promotion hopefuls are adamant he is not for sale, so at this point it means there is still some way to go before Villa find out whether they can bring Martinez in.
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Do you think, maybe an offer of say for David £10- £15 million might change MB’s view.
 

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readingbee said:
Do you think, maybe an offer of say for David £10- £15 million might change MB’s view.
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They've already offered £10m I heard.

Imagine that, we've turned-down £10m for a goalkeeper :eek:
 

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readingbee said:
Do you think, maybe an offer of say for David £10- £15 million might change MB’s view.
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Very difficult position for us to fill at short notice. I just can't see us shooting ourselves in the foot with little time to find an adequate replacement.
 
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