As it always is, to some degree, whilst we have one members window instead of multiple ones.
Good job people got their moaning in beforehand then, since there’s actually nothing to moan about…
ST holder here.
One day we will have over 3000 STH who want to go to every away game. Today we don’t. But I think opening up the tickets like for this game is a good way of getting the numbers up.
Which is why ST holders should have no or very little benefit for aways .
Don't see how - I'm going to wait this time and see. Hopefully they sort thing process out so you can get your code in your confirmation of ticket email.
T’was ever thus; not everyone is a traveller. Although Portman Road is probably closer to you than Brentford, my son in Somerset and self-employed, has to judge away games carefully… but we are doing Ipswich as it’s 3pm on a Saturday and a good day (and a bit) out.
I don’t agree with this. And I think I future we will see a lot higher take up in future.
I should have made clear , under the old TAPS system i didn't agree with it but if it helps to sell out more games ( not convinced but hope so ) then i am ok with it
This is often suggested e.g. by Nick above.
It would be interesting to know the age profile of our STH. I would guess many are in the heritage bracket (like myself and my wife) for whom away games can be a challenge. We get to a few but many require too much travelling. Presumably this profile will change as we fall off the perch and a younger cohort come through. I anticipate they will attend more away games.
Sorry! Sure it has been asked….but is it limited to the day itself? Planning a long weekend
Agree mine are me and two kids, they have lots of other weekend commitments and with so many games moving times, it’s difficult to always commit to away matches. They now enter GCSE and A level exams and lots of revision rather than football. We travel to home games further than many too. Time is tight.
Get an educational podcast on for the journey, reward their efforts with the away days ??
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I don't think so at all. As I said earlier we have never sold 3,000 tickets to STHers this season. Even to Arsenal, Spurs, Southampton, West Ham and Chelsea. All of which are easier to get to than....Ipswich.
Most people don't go to away games. Never had, never will. Otherwise this would have been a problem in League Two.
We've had this debate many, many times. We may see some changes for next season. Who knows.
At present there is no settled BIAS view as it is not an open issue. As a broad matter, unless there is a strong case to the benefit of fans we are not in favour of removing existing rights as per the supporters’ charter upon which STs have just decided to renew their STs on. BU has raised the issue and seem to favour a change. I don’t know the club’s view but it didn’t jump to support BU when it was raised.
If it makes little difference then I don't see why those that are disadvanted should be disadvantaged because they elect (for whatever reason) to not buy a Season Ticket. It's a very stange qualifier to use ahead of TAPs.
We don’t yet know the TAPs threshold for new 25-26 STs. But the threshold last season and for each season in the PL for adults to get a ST has never been above 1000. 1000 rolling TAPs takes you IIRC to Tier 3. On that basis, the practical impact on members of STs getting 95% of the initial away allocation at the moment is extremely limited. But there may come a point when away demand increases and tier 3 STs will by definition be fans who almost never go to away games so a change would be fair.
Let’s see how it actually plays out behaviourally. We had enough upset at the move to rolling TAPs from people with a millionty legacy TAPs but who didn’t go to away games any more.
I think the modelling of uni students is a bit more complex than that.
rights? what rights? and what about the rights of members to access tickets in alignment with their TAPs?
What about the rights of the members though?
How about we start again and go: "we need a why for fans to access tickets in a fair and equitable way. How do we achieve that?" - the answer isn't "give those that buy a particular ticket to home games absolute priority over everyone else"
