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Spark Bishop said:
If he's that good then he would improve us and make us better then! But my question was just how good is he? I heard an £8m figure being mentioned - is he really £8m good?
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The owner rates him incredibly highly so I wouldn't be at all surprised if £8m is round about our valuation of him.
 

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hairman said:
Yes he's good. Fulham are not good. Yes he would make Fulham better. However, no matter how vigorously you polish a turd, ultimately it will not shine. Hence, he will not make Fulham good enough.
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hmmm - thought you lots were into stats these days? If we fill the side with good players then statistically speaking we will be a better side ...no?
 

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hairman said:
Yes he's good. Fulham are not good. Yes he would make Fulham better. However, no matter how vigorously you polish a turd, ultimately it will not shine. Hence, he will not make Fulham good enough.
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Roll it in glitter. :cool:
 

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Spark Bishop said:
hmmm - thought you lots were into stats these days? If we fill the side with good players then statistically speaking we will be a better side ...no?
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Is that the best you can do ? we might as well start with mum jokes.
 

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Spark Bishop said:
well, ignoring your very childish response, why do you think we won't get any good players?
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What's childish about it? Just making a suggestion to help clarify some of your own misconceptions. :shrug:

Anyway, thanks in advance for the six points.
 

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Spark Bishop said:
well, ignoring your very childish response, why do you think we won't get any good players?
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Tarky is good but he makes mistakes and IMO isn't worth £8m but then again we all know English players are over priced
 

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condorman said:
"very loose around the back" etc etc
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Are you the same fella who used to be on besotted and always getting wound up by that guy from Hartlepool who used to call you condom man ?
 

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The reference to "soon be your bedtime". Bit childish that. As is the arrogant "thanks for the six points". Anyway, good as you were last season, and credit where its due, you were one of the better teams, do you think you'll do better or worse next season, given the huge changes at the club. For what its worth I think we'll do better, but more importantly I want to see some settling down of the squad after 2 very difficult years.
 

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shouldbee said:
Are you the same fella who used to be on besotted and always getting wound up by that guy from Hartlepool who used to call you condom man ?
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Great detective work. Yes. I actually prefer the name Condom Man now. It reminds me of my glory years. I think he used to wind others up more than me though. Are you the person who used to be called, erm. Shouldbee?
 

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Spark Bishop said:
The reference to "soon be your bedtime". Bit childish that. As is the arrogant "thanks for the six points". Anyway, good as you were last season, and credit where its due, you were one of the better teams, do you think you'll do better or worse next season, given the huge changes at the club. For what its worth I think we'll do better, but more importantly I want to see some settling down of the squad after 2 very difficult years.
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Not sure about you lot, reckon you could have another really poor season, something not quite right about your owner, get the impression he's not really committed, think you most likely have more chance of ending up in league 1 than getting back into the premier league, some of the players you have bought for crazy money, how many goals did your 12 million greek guy score?
 

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Spark Bishop said:
The reference to "soon be your bedtime". Bit childish that. As is the arrogant "thanks for the six points". Anyway, good as you were last season, and credit where its due, you were one of the better teams, do you think you'll do better or worse next season, given the huge changes at the club. For what its worth I think we'll do better, but more importantly I want to see some settling down of the squad after 2 very difficult years.
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hmmm - thought you lots were into stats these days? If we fill the side with good players then statistically speaking we will be a better side ...no?
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I was just trying to help you out about comments like this one. Of course, you've been very shy in the past about taking the piss, haven't you?

Anyway, thanks again for the six points.
 

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condorman said:
Great detective work. Yes. I actually prefer the name Condom Man now. It reminds me of my glory years. I think he used to wind others up more than me though. Are you the person who used to be called, erm. Shouldbee?
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yep although I was Boris Bee on besotted and still as controversial as I am on here. But these forums are just a bit of fun but there are a few on here who take it deadly seriously ?
 

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Spark Bishop said:
How so? Serious question. Is he that good?
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No offence. Based on what I saw last season JT could do better than Fulham in my thinking. Of course Fulham could do better next season with parachute payments still available and bank rolled by a foreign owner. The fact remains for a relegated premiership team that didn't make much of a job of it in 2014-15.
 

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The division can change pretty drastically each year, or is at least capable of it. I don't know where Fulham...or us, will finish but I wouldn't be surprised either way really.

They need to calm down a bit but won't have the horrible start they had last year.
 

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As a reminder, this thread is about James Tarkowski, not Fulham, players who could play at Right Bank, condom man or Boris Be. It is about the player that isn't going anywhere for less than £10m and certainly not going to Fulham even for all the money in the world.
 

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Will we soon see a mysteriously deleted tweet about him going to Fulham? :rolleyes:
 

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Banana said:
As a reminder, this thread is about James Tarkowski, not Fulham, players who could play at Right Bank, condom man or Boris Be. It is about the player that isn't going anywhere for less than £10m and certainly not going to Fulham even for all the money in the world.
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I just did a loud " hooray " in work .
 

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Fulham have upped their offer today according to reports.
 

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I will re-phrase......and I agree why would he go to Fulscum........but If we was offered in the region of 2.75/3 mill for him then why not take it?
I am not advocating Tark's should leave,but I honestly think he is worth no more than £3 mill at best.......!
 

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Lush55 said:
I will re-phrase......and I agree why would he go to Fulscum........but If we was offered in the region of 2.75/3 mill for him then why not take it?
I am not advocating Tark's should leave,but I honestly think he is worth no more than £3 mill at best.......!
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Think you have the question the wrong way round......if we were offered in the region of 2.75/3 million the question should be why would we take it? The player is under contract, he is young and will more than likely get better.....and we don't need to sell.......sorry cannot see your logic....
 

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Lush55 said:
£2.75 million and it will be done deal IMO
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:( If mouth paid £8M for the ipswich player, then why do we have to sell him for less than £5m? not that he will go of course..
 

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I hope he does get better and like I said I am not advocating him leaving,our owner has put a price tag on him,which in my opinion is way over the top for what I saw last season.
Up to Tark's to prove his worth , I shall watch with interest how our new coach plays him this coming term.
 

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I know that this forum is all about opinions and people should feel free to express them. But some posters comments are just plain bonkers and cannot be taken seriously.
 

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If he stays (I believe he will), I reckon this could be a breakthrough season for him. I hope that we will be better protected defensively which will help him reduce the silly errors. I personally think he'd be mad to consider going to Fulham because this time next season he could be looking at a much bigger move to a Premiership club if we don't go up. My message to him is to ignore a short term gain in wages as many others have proved that the wrong move won't help fulfill ambitions.
 

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Lush55 said:
I will re-phrase......and I agree why would he go to Fulscum........but If we was offered in the region of 2.75/3 mill for him then why not take it?
I am not advocating Tark's should leave,but I honestly think he is worth no more than £3 mill at best.......!
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Fulham can start talking upwards of £8 million for JT.

Every player has a price tag and JT's isn't £3 million.
 

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GloucesterB said:
I know that this forum is all about opinions and people should feel free to express them. But some posters comments are just plain bonkers and cannot be taken seriously.
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Is it me that is bonkers?
So we have Tark's rated at £8m......yet Danny Ings rated at £5m by Liverpool............Tark's is NOT worth £8m......and as much as I like and have extreme faith in MB,that valuation is the "bonker's" bit.
And take my comments with a pinch of salt,I do not care.....everyone has the favourite's and Tark's I am sorry is not one of mine,I hope he makes me change my mind and like I said it will be interesting to see at what position the coach plays him in?
 

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Kingston Bee said:
Think you have the question the wrong way round......if we were offered in the region of 2.75/3 million the question should be why would we take it? The player is under contract, he is young and will more than likely get better.....and we don't need to sell.......sorry cannot see your logic....
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Becasue we have too many CBs now. £3m would cover what we have paid out on 2 of them this close season and, hold your breath for this bit, I think Harlee is better than Tarks in the Championship!
 

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Les Beeavinu said:
If he stays (I believe he will), I reckon this could be a breakthrough season for him. I hope that we will be better protected defensively which will help him reduce the silly errors. I personally think he'd be mad to consider going to Fulham because this time next season he could be looking at a much bigger move to a Premiership club if we don't go up. My message to him is to ignore a short term gain in wages as many others have proved that the wrong move won't help fulfill ambitions.
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Les,you have said it better than me.....I really hope the kid does well,he is not my favourite and sincerely hope he hits the spot this term.
But all these that rate him at over £8m......oh please!!!
 

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wanderer paul said:
Fulham can start talking upwards of £8 million for JT.

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Can't see it myself. Whilst we have loads of top prospects none of them are yet the finished article. Hopefully Bjelland is and he cost £2.1m?
I reckon of our star players Jota might command the biggest fee (the wow factor). If i had to buy one and one only i'd take Moses personally
 

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Les Beeavinu said:
If he stays (I believe he will), I reckon this could be a breakthrough season for him. I hope that we will be better protected defensively which will help him reduce the silly errors. I personally think he'd be mad to consider going to Fulham because this time next season he could be looking at a much bigger move to a Premiership club if we don't go up. My message to him is to ignore a short term gain in wages as many others have proved that the wrong move won't help fulfill ambitions.
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I totally agree. I also wonder what kind of wages we can now pay, if we want to, and wonder whether other clubs in the Championship, even with parachute money, can really offer significantly more than we now can/will?
 

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We just signed a Danish international centre-back for £2.5m, yet some people think JT is worth considerably more than that. Some of the valuations I've read of our players are crazy.
 

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I can't see him going and I certainly can't seeing how going for anything less than £4-5mn.
 

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Lush55 said:
............Tark's is NOT worth £8m......
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Doesn't matter what we think he's worth , its what the asking price is , we are under no pressure to sell anyone.
 

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finsbury_bee said:
We just signed a Danish international centre-back for £2.5m, yet some people think JT is worth considerably more than that. Some of the valuations I've read of our players are crazy.
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Exactly the point of why we are purchasing from abroad. Foreigners from European Leagues offer much better value for money. JT is worth upwards of £5m on the current market rate because he is English. From and English league.
 

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finsbury_bee said:
We just signed a Danish international centre-back for £2.5m, yet some people think JT is worth considerably more than that. Some of the valuations I've read of our players are crazy.
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The valuation is MB's asking price , be that 1 pound , 450 k or 75 billion.
 

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finsbury_bee said:
We just signed a Danish international centre-back for £2.5m, yet some people think JT is worth considerably more than that. Some of the valuations I've read of our players are crazy.
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Twente are desperate, that was good business, MB isn't under pressure to sell and will only sell at his valuation and Tarks is worth more than 2.5 mill to him.
 

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Its never going to be an exact valuation, its merely what we are willing to sell him for.
Im pretty sure that Tony Craig is worth more in actual money, than the free transfer we let him go to Millwall for.
The fact is Tarky is an important first team player that we dont want to lose, so its 8 million or nothing, whereas TC was considered surplus, so was let go.
Ross McCormack wasn't ever worth 11 million, yet it didn't stop some idiot paying it for him
 
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