James Tarkowski -

[jlove]

So, what's Tarky having for tea?

 

[Copper Dragon]

Right back to the acting gents.

You sandal wearing, turkish delight eating, shandy drinking southern woofters, we'll never pay £5 million so there.

 

[busheybee]

Pasta bake I suspect. Usual Monday fair.

 

[Billy Hunt]

So, what's Tarky having for tea?

I can recommend the meat and potato pies at Turf Moor.

Well, they were very, very nice in 1994, or maybe 1995. :shrug:

 

[favershambee]

Sausages and chips with MUSHY PEAS just to keep the BURNLEY GPG MEMBERS HAPPY!!!

 

[South Acton Bee]

Right back to the acting gents.

You sandal wearing, turkish delight eating, shandy drinking southern woofters, we'll never pay £5 million so there.

Better look for another target then ! Laters

 

[Banana]

The last two days of this thread belong in the Away Fans End

 

[BURFORD BEE]

I can recommend the meat and potato pies at Turf Moor.

Well, they were very, very nice in 1994, or maybe 1995. :shrug:

They're probably the same pies.

 

[Norfolk Bee]

The telling statistic for Mr Gray is not how many he scores but how many he misses. Good player though.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Missus is on another diet. Dull pasta dish. If it was a car, it would be a Focus. :grey:

 

[RitchBee]

From West London Sport

Brentford are prepared to let James Tarkowski leave the club and return north.

Burnley want the centre-back and had a bid of £2.5m plus add-ons rejected by the Bees last week.

The Lancashire club remain keen to sign him and he would be allowed to leave Griffin Park if the Clarets increase their offer to around £4m – significantly less than Brentford have demanded previously.

Tarkowski is from Manchester, joined the Bees from Oldham in 2014, and would like to return to the region.

Brentford have therefore indicated that they are willing to let him do so if they receive an improved offer.

Sheffield Wednesday are interested in Tarkowski too, while Derby, Norwich and West Brom have also spoken to the player’s agent.

Didn't take long for us to cave in then.,,,,,,

 

[Banana]

Didn't take long for us to cave in then.,,,,,,

What's got into you recently? You've become one of the most negative people on here recently.

 

[Raymond Howard]

From West London Sport

Brentford are prepared to let James Tarkowski leave the club and return north.

Burnley want the centre-back and had a bid of £2.5m plus add-ons rejected by the Bees last week.

The Lancashire club remain keen to sign him and he would be allowed to leave Griffin Park if the Clarets increase their offer to around £4m – significantly less than Brentford have demanded previously.

Tarkowski is from Manchester, joined the Bees from Oldham in 2014, and would like to return to the region.

Brentford have therefore indicated that they are willing to let him do so if they receive an improved offer.

Sheffield Wednesday are interested in Tarkowski too, while Derby, Norwich and West Brom have also spoken to the player’s agent.

Didn't take long for us to cave in then.,,,,,,

If true, how would they know?

 

[Delbee]

From West London Sport

Brentford are prepared to let James Tarkowski leave the club and return north.

Burnley want the centre-back and had a bid of £2.5m plus add-ons rejected by the Bees last week.

The Lancashire club remain keen to sign him and he would be allowed to leave Griffin Park if the Clarets increase their offer to around £4m – significantly less than Brentford have demanded previously.

Tarkowski is from Manchester, joined the Bees from Oldham in 2014, and would like to return to the region.

Brentford have therefore indicated that they are willing to let him do so if they receive an improved offer.

Sheffield Wednesday are interested in Tarkowski too, while Derby, Norwich and West Brom have also spoken to the player’s agent.

Didn't take long for us to cave in then.,,,,,,

It's crap

 

[the beast]

It's crap

What Crap . The report from west london sport or the fact james is off. ?

 

[mhead bee]

From West London Sport

Brentford are prepared to let James Tarkowski leave the club and return north.

Burnley want the centre-back and had a bid of £2.5m plus add-ons rejected by the Bees last week.

The Lancashire club remain keen to sign him and he would be allowed to leave Griffin Park if the Clarets increase their offer to around £4m – significantly less than Brentford have demanded previously.

Tarkowski is from Manchester, joined the Bees from Oldham in 2014, and would like to return to the region.

Brentford have therefore indicated that they are willing to let him do so if they receive an improved offer.

Sheffield Wednesday are interested in Tarkowski too, while Derby, Norwich and West Brom have also spoken to the player’s agent.

Didn't take long for us to cave in then.,,,,,,

We have no idea how much we have bought or sold a single player for in the last 4 years or so, why are you taking this particular article to heart?

4m is probably what we are holding out for but we will never know.

 

[mhead bee]

What Crap . The report from west london sport or the fact james is off. ?

Players are definitely going to leave, the eying up over the dance floors has happened over Xmas, the slow dances started last week with the first offers, we now move into the tonging stage and next week it will be the second dates. At this point an agreement will be met, the happy couples will go Dutch on the first few dates, then the deal will be sealed and judge, tarky and toums will be off.

 

[Delbee]

Right back to the acting gents.

You sandal wearing, turkish delight eating, shandy drinking southern woofters, we'll never pay £5 million so there.

Pi.. Off go play with the traffic .
You can't take or understand good quality beer I don't wear sandles or eat crap like Turkish Delights

 

[BerksBee]

You can keep saying that they have scored more than Gray between them, but it still won't be actually correct. Gray has scored 15.

He's scored 13 goals for Burnley in the league. I'm not interested in what he does in cup games.

 

[Lush55]

Like Bish said......the last four records was always make your mind up time.......5hag or kebab.......lol

 

[beebopalula]

If players are going we need to replace them in the window. I can see us taking enough to enable us to do some business and stay within FFP. It might fall short of our valuations but we can't be left high and dry. Tarks and Toums are no big deal IMO but Judge will be missed unless we can bring in a standout player.

 

[CTBee]

Pi.. Off go play with the traffic .
You can't take or understand good quality beer I don't wear sandles or eat crap like Turkish Delights

I think it was a joke lol

 

[LingfieldBee]

If players are going we need to replace them in the window. I can see us taking enough to enable us to do some business and stay within FFP. It might fall short of our valuations but we can't be left high and dry. Tarks and Toums are no big deal IMO but Judge will be missed unless we can bring in a standout player.

O'connel is not near Tarks standard and we're leak goals for fun with him at the back. Replacement would be needed ASAP

 

[JCMcBee]

The telling statistic for Mr Gray is not how many he scores but how many he misses. Good player though.

....and if he misses 5 and scores 2 on friday.......then we're probably fooked.......so i get your logic

 

[shepperton bee]

Targonski

 

[Leonardo]

O'connel is not near Tarks standard and we're leak goals for fun with him at the back. Replacement would be needed ASAP

Not neccesarily as consolidate this year and give ocobnell and Barbet some experience with bjelland to come back for next season.
All the best clubs will be planning 2 or 3 years in advance

 

[Infatuated Bees Alter Ego]

The telling statistic for Mr Gray is not how many he scores but how many he misses. Good player though.

Better than anything we have on our books currently.

 

[Bigruss]

O'connel is not near Tarks standard and we're leak goals for fun with him at the back. Replacement would be needed ASAP

To be honest, we leak goals for fun with Tarks in the side, so no change really. It's all about getting the midfield right to give the defence a chance.

 

[Infatuated Bees Alter Ego]

Tarkowski has great potential and will go far in the game. Getting a little hacked off that our better players are or have already departed

 

[PJ]

O'connel is not near Tarks standard and we're leak goals for fun with him at the back. Replacement would be needed ASAP

He didn`t have his best game on Sat (rusty/over eager to impress?) but I`d be more than happy to see JOC given an extended run if Tarky goes. Has a lot going for him but needs games.

 

[JonoBfc]

O'Connell and Dean scares me. A replacement needed ASAP I think its only a matter of time before Tarks goes

 

[Doovster]

To be honest, we leak goals for fun with Tarks in the side, so no change really. It's all about getting the midfield right to give the defence a chance.

Spot on. We really need to find the genuine defensive midfielder who just sits and protects, and let's the rest of the front 5 get on with scoring goals.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

He didn`t have his best game on Sat (rusty/over eager to impress?) but I`d be more than happy to see JOC given an extended run if Tarky goes. Has a lot going for him but needs games.

Yes. Conditions very difficult for defenders on Saturday - he can do better than that.

 

[Mr Tree]

We have no idea how much we have bought or sold a single player for in the last 4 years or so, why are you taking this particular article to heart?

while i fully agree with the gist (that the article should be taken with a massive pinch of salt), we have learned of plenty of actual or approximate values. the Gray figures, for example, have been numerously confirmed (6.25m down, 3.5m in add-ons, 27.5% sell-on clause). just gotta keep your eye out

 

[HertfordBee]

O'Connell and Dean scares me.

It doesn't scare me but surely there's little point in someone like McEachran if you've got two centre-backs, one of whom doesn't attempt too many short passes and the other one who hits his passes like bullets out of a shotgun.

McEachran needs to be focal point if he plays, with everything going through him. He won't work if he's one of two or even three players clamouring for the ball from the back. A Tarkowski and another ball-playing centre-back will suit him, but two 'hoofers' gives him no chance.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

It doesn't scare me but surely there's little point in someone like McEachran if you've got two centre-backs, one of whom doesn't attempt too many short passes and the other one who hits his passes like bullets out of a shotgun.

McEachran needs to be focal point if he plays, with everything going through him. He won't work if he's one of two or even three players clamouring for the ball from the back. A Tarkowski and another ball-playing centre-back will suit him, but two 'hoofers' gives him no chance.

Barbet then?

 

[HertfordBee]

Barbet then?

Yes, I think he's got to be key in future plans.

 

[teesbee]

Targonski

Targetoffski

 

[b42long....]

Probably best he leaves, it's starting to become apparent that this has been coming for a while, whilst loyalty is totally vacant in the current game it's frustrating that the warbs hangover has lasted this long, yearly contracts must be the way forward as the current system is so stacked towards the player

 

[Les Beeavinu]

He'll definitely be off now!

 

[mhead bee]

Lets see if we get £9Million for any or all of them and judge it on that, we will have to agree to disagree.

Or maybe we can improve on the fee we paid for them rather than the one we paid for Gray.

Buy cheap, sell for more and make the money go further not spend it all on one similar player in one go,.

Its not that difficult to grasp if you try to give it a go, its how you become sustainable.

 

[Doovster]

Probably best he leaves, it's starting to become apparent that this has been coming for a while, whilst loyalty is totally vacant in the current game it's frustrating that the warbs hangover has lasted this long, yearly contracts must be the way forward as the current system is so stacked towards the player

Yearly? Surely we would then see players leaving for nothing every 12 months?

 

[mhead bee]

while i fully agree with the gist (that the article should be taken with a massive pinch of salt), we have learned of plenty of actual or approximate values. the Gray figures, for example, have been numerously confirmed (6.25m down, 3.5m in add-ons, 27.5% sell-on clause). just gotta keep your eye out

I have kept my eye out and seen everything between 4 and 10 regularly banded about.

 

[mhead bee]

Probably best he leaves, it's starting to become apparent that this has been coming for a while, whilst loyalty is totally vacant in the current game it's frustrating that the warbs hangover has lasted this long, yearly contracts must be the way forward as the current system is so stacked towards the player

And you think yearly contract will take the power away from players? Really?

 

[b42long....]

Yearly? Surely we would then see players leaving for nothing every 12 months?

Effectively that is what we've seen anyway with a few exceptions

 

[Doovster]

Effectively that is what we've seen anyway with a few exceptions

Forshaw, Gray, Grigg, Dallas, Moses, possibly Tarks, Tooms.

How figure?

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Forshaw, Gray, Grigg, Dallas, Moses, possibly Tarks, Tooms.

How figure?

About £20m there.

 

[WARFIELD BEE]

Or maybe we can improve on the fee we paid for them rather than the one we paid for Gray.

Buy cheap, sell for more and make the money go further not spend it all on one similar player in one go,.

Its not that difficult to grasp if you try to give it a go, its how you become sustainable.

Not sure I get where your going on that one, seem to remember Gray was £600k ish?
I believe Vibe and Hofman were considerably more as would Djuricin if we were to sign him, also we have to pay 3 salaries against 1.

 

[Mr Tree]

I have kept my eye out and seen everything between 4 and 10 regularly banded about.

sure, there was speculation around. the quoted is accurate. Beesotted and posts on here (gawd knows where now but probably the early stages of his thread in Former Bees) "confirm" it, although you could always just say "as i haven't seen the contract, i can only take your word for it" (to any transfer )

 

[b42long....]

Or maybe we can improve on the fee we paid for them rather than the one we paid for Gray.

Buy cheap, sell for more and make the money go further not spend it all on one similar player in one go,.

Its not that difficult to grasp if you try to give it a go, its how you become sustainable.

Finding players that have potential Selling them and not realising it will only make our competitors stronger if the premier league is the goal.... At some point MB will have to back a squad and keep it together to achieve the goal.... That is not a dig at MB just an observation.