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Shame on Birmingham for doing this. At least two of the clubs I despise more in the division, QPR and Wolves have recently appointed managers so he won't be going to either of those two. Actually that's rubbish, he might.
 

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Madness...has done an excellent job keeping them competitive with the squad they have. Modern day football...
 

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Zola to Brum?

It's bound to be a 'name' for the Chinese owners to dump Rowett.

Sounds like it, they want a name and/or they are gambling on everything to get up this season.
 

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Exactly what I said. He could be a good replacement for an inconsistent manager who we have not made any tangible progress under.

You obviously haven't heard about MB's and the club's long term project then.
 

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Sounds like it, they want a name and/or they are gambling on everything to get up this season.

As long as they don't appoint their new boss before 2nd January!
 

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You obviously haven't heard about MB's and the club's long term project then.

I obviously have, and all I see is a manager that goes on a losing run every season and costs us promotion. Which if I am not mistaken is the primary goal of MB's long term plan, is it not?
 

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I obviously have, and all I see is a manager that goes on a losing run every season and costs us promotion. Which if I am not mistaken is the primary goal of MB's long term plan, is it not?

How is Dean costing us promotion ?
 

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How is Dean costing us promotion ?

Because we're not beating teams like; Rotherham, Blackburn, Wigan, Birmingham, Wolves, Barnsley and Fulham. :) :fishing:
 

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Feel sorry for the guy, cannot stand Birmingham but he has done a great job there on limited resources with lot's of off the pitch distractions such as the until recent owner being imprisoned in Hong Kong, he also comes across as a decent guy when interviewed, I hope he finds a decent opportunity.

As for Birmingham, well along with Wolves it looks like there new owners don't have a clue about how it works and seem to think it's just about throwing a few million at it and it should bring instant success, really hope they go for someone like Zola then come Feb / March time find themselves in or near the relegation zone
 

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terrific manager, done a good job at Brum.. there lose..
 

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See first paragraph of post above.

all I can see is a load of waffle, "cost us" "losing run" "inconsistent" "not made any tangible progress under"
 

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Zola is the rumoured man. Definitely a step up :confused:

And no, Rowett wouldn't replace Smith even if Smith left. He is a very good manager but doesn't fit the way we play.
 

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Now looking forward to 2 Jan. Maybe third-time lucky at St Andrews? Rowett has done a brilliant job with very limited resources. His sides have always been greater than the sum of their parts. Teamwork, simple plan and great execution. Have we even won a point against them since he became manager? My missus won't be happy. :mad:
 

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Just about sums up the ineptitude of some owners. Rowett was a decent manager getting the most out of a team with limited resources. Zola is a "name" but has consistently failed as a manager, his teams ended up being soft touches..... he will likely be gone by end of March and the owners will likely have to pay him off..... no wonder fans get frustrated.
 

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Not surprised,played a style of football that would never reach the prem,our level even though we lost!was more adapt to a higher level than there's. Sometimes as MB knows u have to move on.
 

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Not surprised,played a style of football that would never reach the prem,our level even though we lost!was more adapt to a higher level than there's. Sometimes as MB knows u have to move on.

You don't need to play thrilling football to get to the Prem. Ask Burnley or (soon) Brighton.
 

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Amazing thing for me looking at the Championship managers who have lost their jobs so far this season is that Owen Coyle isn't among them.
 

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Feel sorry for the guy, cannot stand Birmingham but he has done a great job there on limited resources with lot's of off the pitch distractions such as the until recent owner being imprisoned in Hong Kong, he also comes across as a decent guy when interviewed, I hope he finds a decent opportunity.

As for Birmingham, well along with Wolves it looks like there new owners don't have a clue about how it works and seem to think it's just about throwing a few million at it and it should bring instant success, really hope they go for someone like Zola then come Feb / March time find themselves in or near the relegation zone

good call about zola
 

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Good prediction skills there

I polished my crystal ball and I could see the name ..... Zola ....... but then, as was mentioned after my post, Calvin was the name that followed, not Gianfranco. ;)
 

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I hate the way Brum play and would draw the curtains if they were playing on my back garden but Rowett did brilliantly with limited resources.

The key questions are with more money as looks certain to be the case, could he improve the style of football and attract better players?

We will never know.
 

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Exactly what I said. He could be a good replacement for an inconsistent manager who we have not made any tangible progress under.

Yes, just what we need. Replace our manager with another clubs manager who are only 6 points ahead of us (and given that we pissed all over them, should be level on points with us), have a much larger budget than us, finished below us last season with said budget, and play awful football. Good one mate :sorted:
 

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All this talk about whether Rowett would be good enough if he got them up/at the next level is so much rot.

Or as my old mother would have said: "Let me fall before you catch me".

It used to be that you had to fail before you got sacked.

Now it doesn't matter how successful you've been to date, if someone thinks you might not continue to be successful in future, you get sacked anyway.

Meanwhile, as I always like to remind people in such situations, Sir Alex Ferguson was six full seasons at Man U before he won the League. And he had come to OT with a good CV, to inherit a squad which was still pretty decent, and with money to spend to add to it.

As for Brum, why couldn't they have sacked Rowett before they played us?
 

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All this talk about whether Rowett would be good enough if he got them up/at the next level is so much rot.

Or as my old mother would have said: "Let me fall before you catch me".

It used to be that you had to fail before you got sacked.

Now it doesn't matter how successful you've been to date, if someone thinks you might not continue to be successful in future, you get sacked anyway.

Meanwhile, as I always like to remind people in such situations, Sir Alex Ferguson was six full seasons at Man U before he won the League. And he had come to OT with a good CV, to inherit a squad which was still pretty decent, and with money to spend to add to it.

As for Brum, why couldn't they have sacked Rowett before they played us?
We play them again in about a fortnight so you've kind of got your wish.
 

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Honeymoons generally happen when the previous manager was holding them back. When everyone was behind the old manager (including the fans) you don't usually get one, more likely the opposite IMO.
 

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Honeymoons generally happen when the previous manager was holding them back. When everyone was behind the old manager (including the fans) you don't usually get one, more likely the opposite IMO.
Hope you're right.

The alternative is that with a new manager, everyone will be sh*tting themselves about their place in the team, and so will find an extra 10% they didn't think they had. For a bit. Until they realise they can't keep it up. And are replaced regardless.
 

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Hope you're right.

The alternative is that with a new manager, everyone will be sh*tting themselves about their place in the team, and so will find an extra 10% they didn't think they had. For a bit. Until they realise they can't keep it up. And are replaced regardless.

Or alternatively they're feeling completely de motivated and accept they're going to be moved on under the new regime and play for themselves and not the collective.
 

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Zola blatantly favourite now to be the next Champ manager to be sacked. What do we give it? Nine games?
 

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Still don't get it. Rowett did a great job and we all know how tough this division is. Not only that but he is Brummie through and through and probably understands that club better than anyone. The players clearly played for him as well. No offence to Zola, clearly a lovely bloke but that gets you nowhere in football. He won't have the same rapport with the players that Rowett had
 

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All this talk about whether Rowett would be good enough if he got them up/at the next level is so much rot.

Or as my old mother would have said: "Let me fall before you catch me".

It used to be that you had to fail before you got sacked.

Now it doesn't matter how successful you've been to date, if someone thinks you might not continue to be successful in future, you get sacked anyway.

Meanwhile, as I always like to remind people in such situations, Sir Alex Ferguson was six full seasons at Man U before he won the League. And he had come to OT with a good CV, to inherit a squad which was still pretty decent, and with money to spend to add to it.

As for Brum, why couldn't they have sacked Rowett before they played us?

Silly decision but i wouldn't go overboard with the sympathy.
He'll walk away with a nice big cheque in his back pocket and his stock is high.
My guess is he'll get a nice little number quite soon. My bet would be Forest
 

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Hope Gianfranco doesn't suffer the same fate as his namesake Emile.....
 

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Silly decision but i wouldn't go overboard with the sympathy.
He'll walk away with a nice big cheque in his back pocket and his stock is high.
My guess is he'll get a nice little number quite soon. My bet would be Forest

I was thinking exactly the same when I looked where he might go last night
 

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Managers get typecast. I.e. He's a Championship levelmanager, or he's a Red Adair like Martin Allen.

I doubt if Rowett will get a job at anything better than a mid level Championship team given what he did at Burton and Brum. He deserves better.
 

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Zola blatantly favourite now to be the next Champ manager to be sacked. What do we give it? Nine games?

Maybe they could then move on to appoint Roberto Di Matteo who's already helped them by handicapping Villa this season and still lives locally.
 

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Maybe they could then move on to appoint Roberto Di Matteo who's already helped them by handicapping Villa this season and still lives locally.

and then complete the triumvarate by appointing Walter Zenga
 
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