Ok thanks. As I said, I wasn't particularly watching the game. Did the players remonstrate a lot about it not being a foul? Did the TV show a number of replays to show that Raya was lucky?
Yes but we signed david as a younger inexperienced keeper 4 years ago so maybe 22-23,Were we signed flekken as a experienced international goalkeeper who could bring experience and calmness to our back line but he bring the opposite flaps at crosses cant even punch the ball clear and doesn't try to catch when no one even near him.and at his age cant see it getting better.
Yeah get your point , keepers play until theyre 89 , so hopefully he'll learn
It's too early to make that call mate. Raya had a tough start too.
I agree but Raya was a lot younger than Flekken is now when he signed. Raya was bought to develop, Flekken is an experienced keeper.
I agree about this incident, although I wouldn't widen it out to criticize Hickey as a player. I made this point already about the blame for the so-called penalty. Hickey made a mistake and as even Shearer didn't think it was a penalty it's a bit OTT to slate Flekken. I'm more concerned with the lack of authority he showed in the lead up to the disallowed goal, which I thought was a soft foul where the ref got him out of jail.
Well I'm glad that Richard Lee was right on both points - both the foul and the non-foul were very evident on the replays, though I'll admit for Wilson's arm block it was only visible from one camera angle - otherwise Flekken's arm appeared to seize up for no reason.
He had played two full seasons for us by that stage and made a number of major errors he learned from in that time.
You know the more i see that incident the less it is a penalty.
Taken him a long time to get to that point in his career,but remember that David wants to play football at another club and not Brentford FC.
Are you suggesting patience? You do know that many on here don't have that, one poor game and it's the end of the road for that player ?
Could be one of those players who gets better the more he doesn't actually play.
Whether he punches or catches, we need to do a better job protecting him, whoever the designated covering player is.
My preference is the Raya philosophy: where reasonably practicable, catch the ball. Punch only under serious pressure (i.e. where it will be difficult to catch and land safely with the ball under control). When catching a ball, you present the whole span of two hands to the ball (maybe 24cm x 30cm at a rough guess of an average). When punching with one hand (like the Red Star keeper last night), you offer up the surface area of your fist (maybe 10cm x 8cm?). Which of the above stands the best chance of making solid contact with a moving object? Couple that with the fact that your arms will stretch high above the head of an opponent, and that you are allowed to use big, tacky gloves to help you hold on, not to mention the thousands of hours you invest in perfecting the skill of catching a football.
Two things re last Saturdays game , one if he had stayed on his post , the best Gordon could have hoped for was a very unlikely cross which Mark was in position for , second if he was brave and dived out towards the ball he would at the worst pushed the ball away and got a free kick from the dangerous play by Gordon
Totally agree. They are the same people still going on about raya, the gk who doesn’t want to play for us anymore. Think it is time to support the players that do want to play for the club.
It probably did for Bentley and maybe exposed Daniels as not being up to what we were looking for technically beyond traditional goalkeeping. Ramsdale has spoken about how challenging Arteta’s demands were for him. I think it unlikely we’d have spent the amount on Flekken we have if we or he had doubts about the technical requirements of training in the way that has made Raya so much better a keeper and integral to a successful modern play style. Few players in any position can rely at this level on their natural style to be enough to let them thrive.Speaking recently, to a goalie of some repute, I wonder if all the technical coaching can sometimes be confusing (& even lead to doubts & in turn a lack of confidence?)
For me, as a manager of little repute, all I can offer on the technical side is ...... "Flek ... ffs MAN UP"
..............the players career is not over until Voice says so...............
maybe that is why he was sold?
Good point. He's half a foot taller that Raya but worse in the air. Against a team like Everton the keeper needs to dominate his box. Very poor today (though not the only one)
maybe when scouting we seem more concerned with how good he is with his feet when we should be concentrating on his goalkeeping skills first,same with collins decent at bringing the ball out of defence but not so good at defending as dacoure was his man for the 1st and messed up for the third.
