Ref Watch 2016/17

Ref Watch 2016/17

Kettering Bee said:
Read very carefully, because I sense you ain't getting it. I can tell you that yesterday he had a massive problem. His performance cannot be explained as incompetence.
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I 'get it'. I've seen enough games for myself where the refereeing decisions are unfathomable from my viewpoint in the stands.

I understand the inclination to speculate on reasons for such a performance. I'm simply saying from my experience of many conversations SH has no 'grudge' against Brentford that I'm aware of.
 

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I am sure he doesn't but why did he like Coote before him appear to be playing by a different set of rules for each club?
 

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Some dark suggestions being made about the ref but I think he made "honest" decisions albeit wrong ones not helped by weak assistants.

Seeing the TV replays a few times their player collapses very easily for the penalty something no doubt Warnock encourages, whereas I doubt DS does in his coaching which may account for our lack of penalties this season.
 

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Stanley said:
Some dark suggestions being made about the ref but I think he made "honest" decisions albeit wrong ones not helped by weak assistants.

Seeing the TV replays a few times their player collapses very easily for the penalty something no doubt Warnock encourages, whereas I doubt DS does in his coaching which may account for our lack of penalties this season.
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Morrison is a huge unit who had his sleeve tugged and hit the deck like a tranquilised Elephant.
As mentioned before he got zero help from the Braemar Lino who struggled to keep up with play and barely raised his flag all game.
 

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Oh dear
 

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Surprised by the lack of outrage on here over the non-penalty Harlee shirt pulling incident.......although Harlee himself was pretty restrained too.....
 

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badgerbee said:
Surprised by the lack of outrage on here over the non-penalty Harlee shirt pulling incident.......although Harlee himself was pretty restrained too.....
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Last time he lost it he got booked.
Was a ridiculous decision. Considering the one given to Cardiff the other day.
 

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badgerbee said:
Surprised by the lack of outrage on here over the non-penalty Harlee shirt pulling incident.......although Harlee himself was pretty restrained too.....
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Inconsistency. Once again. Isn't it this year the referees who ref championship matches are the next batch the PL choose for the elite group?

This was the ref who did our Reading game earlier in the season too.
 

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It is unusual for a ref to be a panto villain for both sets of supporters.

You've to hand it yesterday's latest pathetic excuse.
 

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The Braemar Rd lino seemed off his game, hesitant and behind the pace of the match whereas the other one looked much sharper. The ref was seeing fouls where no one else did, maybe it was down to being on the tv.
 

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..............was it a 'red card'???????............
 

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GP200 said:
..............was it a 'red card'???????............
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Reading the replies to my question in the updates thread, everyone says, no. :)

If it was the other way round, Woods sent off, we'd all be doing our nut in!! Having seen it again on the highlights, not a red.

Ref started off ok but got worse as the game went on. As I said, same ref who did our game v Reading earlier in the season. Once again, inconsistency.
 

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GP200 said:
..............was it a 'red card'???????............
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Woods was asked that question when he received the MoM award immediately after the game. He didn't say "no"... but he very nearly did! Then, he was watching intently as it came up on the replay... it didn't seem to change his mind.
 

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The worst decision was him penalising Dean on the edge of their area when the defender held his shirt and then put his arm around his neck . Free kick to Norwich - of course!
 

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Langford got 4/10 only, from FLP. However Hooper at Cardiff game got 6/10. IMO Hooper was much poorer, but Langford did miss the blatant shirt pull on Harlee. The lino on NR side was 'decision making proof' ie he made none himself!
 

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North London Bee said:
The worst decision was him penalising Dean on the edge of their area when the defender held his shirt and then put his arm around his neck . Free kick to Norwich - of course!
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Big club syndrome, again!
 

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hatfieldbee said:
Langford got 4/10 only, from FLP. However Hooper at Cardiff game got 6/10. IMO Hooper was much poorer, but Langford did miss the blatant shirt pull on Harlee. The lino on NR side was 'decision making proof' ie he made none himself!
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To be fair, I don't think the assistants helped him at all.
The cross from a short corner by Kaikai being tipped away by Ruddy, and a throw in given to Norwich. I expect the NR assistant to not have seen it (good if he did), but the BR one was looking straight at it! He could have used the microphone they had attached to each other to tell him its taken a touch BEFORE it went out to help him.
 

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Aberdeen flyer said:
James Adcock from Nottingham is ref at Brum tomorrow.
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We've had him twice this season, both away.

He was in charge of the defeat to Rotherham at the beginning of the season. Then he took charge of the lovely win away to QPR.
Not yet done Birmingham.
And has an average of a little over 3 yellows per game. Has just 2 reds to his name this season.
We never saw him last season but the season before he took charge of our first game back in the championship at home to Charlton and then mid season the away win at Millwall. Had a poor season in terms of cards having issued 9 reds mostly in the mid season part of the season.
 

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Buzzettesfriend said:
That's funny, because the Birmingham city website says its Geoff Eltringham from County Durham.
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Well if it is Eltringham it must be a late change because as Ladbroke says the official EFL Referee Appointments site has James Adcock as the man in charge.
 

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Aberdeen flyer said:
Well if it is Eltringham it must be a late change because as Ladbroke says the official EFL Referee Appointments site has James Adcock as the man in charge.
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This is what's on Birminghams website.... Anyway I'll be there in half an hour so I'll let you know.....
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Referee Geoff Eltringham will take charge of next Monday's fixture at St. Andrew's. So far this season the County Durham-based official has refereed 22 games, where he has produced a total of 71 yellow cards and three reds. The last Blues fixture he took charge of was our Championship away game against Bolton in October 2015. Blues won that match 1-0 and there were seven cautions dished out, including one each for Paul Robinson, Paul Caddis and Jonathan Grounds for the visitors. Mr Eltringham will be assisted by Nigel Lugg and Michael George.
 

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i wasn't disputing what you say as I have seen it on Birmingham OS myself,merely stating what was on the EFL Referees website.However if there has been a change and Eltringham is the ref look out for dodgy pens !! Enjoy the game and have a nice day.
 
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Dunno whether this is the right thread, but I was listening to something on the radio about some team of academics at the University of Portsmouth, who studied English football results since 1946 (all four Divisions) and identified that home advantage is gradually being eroded, especially in the third and fourth tiers.

And strangely enough, the key explanation is that refereeing has improved, including that with better training etc, refs are now less likely to be influenced by the home crowd than previously.

Can't find the study itself, but here is a reference to it:
https://researchportal.port.ac.uk/p...ng(2d6ef5ee-eb30-4a86-8a32-92de8104db58).html
 

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whos the ref tomorrow please

notfredgrahamnotfredgrahamnotfredgrahamnotfredgraham
 

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The ref who did our Sheff Weds match in August...
 

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Ealing Bee said:
Dunno whether this is the right thread, but I was listening to something on the radio about some team of academics at the University of Portsmouth, who studied English football results since 1946 (all four Divisions) and identified that home advantage is gradually being eroded, especially in the third and fourth tiers.

And strangely enough, the key explanation is that refereeing has improved, including that with better training etc, refs are now less likely to be influenced by the home crowd than previously.

Can't find the study itself, but here is a reference to it:
https://researchportal.port.ac.uk/p...ng(2d6ef5ee-eb30-4a86-8a32-92de8104db58).html
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That's extremely interesting. Thank you for posting that.

Other factors might include:

** improvements in players' physical strength, fitness and stamina
** better pitches
** reduction in terracing and consequently less intimidating home crowds.

But I do think there's also been a change in teams' psychology. When I first started going to football in 1970 teams seemed to live in dread of playing away and I used to wonder why. Players who were perfectly good performers at home one week would shrivel and die the following week away. I just couldn't make out why the difference was so marked. After all, they were still the same players with the same strengths and weaknesses! I think a lot of it was in the mind. Players simply lacked the confidence to play to their normal level in an alien environment. But today players it seems can more easily blot out external factors and get down to business. So "home advantage" is fading.
 

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................were they penalties today?.............looked like it ............
 

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I thought the ref was dominated by Newcastle today tbh
 

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Touch of the big club syndrome I thought.
 

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a ferkin womens private parts to the extreme........actually sick of these clowns coming down here and siding with the 'big' teams on any decisions.........sickening display and should be cringing at some of his decisions
 

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New Road linesman was the worst of the season today.
Absolutely awful.
Was equally terrible for both teams.
 

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Voice from the Braemar said:
a ferkin womens private parts to the extreme........actually sick of these clowns coming down here and siding with the 'big' teams on any decisions.........sickening display and should be cringing at some of his decisions
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How many times this season will we have to put up with this, it is ruining my enjoyment of football being constantly ripped off by starry eyed ***** of referees. The premier league would be hell.
 

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mhead bee said:
How many times this season will we have to put up with this, it is ruining my enjoyment of football being constantly ripped off by starry eyed ***** of referees. The premier league would be hell.
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Big club syndrome, useless woman's willy, I saw Hoffs white vest from the other end of the ground as his shirt was being pulled off him by EE AW Hanley
 
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He was looking directly at the Hoffmann shirt pull. Couldn't have missed it. Born in Gateshead, I hear. ;)
 

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Another poor ref, seemed star struck with the Newcastle players. One observation, he seemed a long way from play on a number of occasions, it was noticeable enough for me to remark on it during the game on 3 or 4 occasions.
 

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The same ref that did Preston v Newcastle & left Preston fans fuming they didn't get a couple of stonewall penalties.

Sounds familiar..
 

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Big club referee and the fact he didn't see the defender pulling Hoffs shirt off his back when we could see it from ER end of The Paddock is proof.
 

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To Bee Someone said:
Thought the one on Tom in the first half was a stonewall pen as well.
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I've not seen a replay of that anywhere. Was Tom tripped by a Newcastle player or Egan?

Then there's the tackle on Vibe (2nd half), Hofmann having his shirt pulled and ??? I'm sore there was another?! :scratch:
 
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