Ref Watch 2016/17

Ref Watch 2016/17

Hope you slept well Kavanagh. You are either blind or a cheat.
 

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Some of the 'bigger' teams we play appear to get lots of soft decisions. We seem to have to work very hard for ours. It looks to me one or two refs have bottled giving us penalties against 'bigger' clubs.
 

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His last game for us was the Doncaster one...
 

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I will take a penalty like the one he awarded us that day. Very soft in the extreme!
 

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Invipai said:
His last game for us was the Doncaster one...
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Not scared to give a penalty for us then. Wish he hadn't though. Hasn't he been demoted from the Prem?
 

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Wise old Bee said:
Not scared to give a penalty for us then. Wish he hadn't though. Hasn't he been demoted from the Prem?
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Well he reffed the Southampton v Leicester game yesterday and did Man U v Liverpool the week before, so presumably not.
 

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Remember him also from a TV game against Notts County away a few years ago. Gave a dubious pen to them as a result of ball to hand, in a 1-1 draw.
 

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He awarded the soft pen for Leicester at Watford in the same season when it was missed and Watford went down the other end and scored. Just after our Doncaster moment :(
 

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Isleworth_Bee said:
He awarded the soft pen for Leicester at Watford in the same season when it was missed and Watford went down the other end and scored. Just after our Doncaster moment :(
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2 soft pens within 2 weeks then......looks like he enjoys making a name for himself......reckon we'll get one on Saturday.....:sorted:
 

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badgerbee said:
2 soft pens within 2 weeks then......looks like he enjoys making a name for himself......reckon we'll get one on Saturday.....:sorted:
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............who will take it????............
 

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...........and again Big Club Syndrome ...........never a free kick for the first goal ........was it a penalty.........????.......... It's becoming tedious..............
 

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GP200 said:
...........and again Big Club Syndrome ...........never a free kick for the first goal ........was it a penalty.........????.......... It's becoming tedious..............
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The assistant on our side of pitch.
Why did he not flag the attacker for chasing the keeper down for offside in which Bentley kicked the ball out for a throw in. He forced our keeper to play the ball.

Also, after their penalty we had a free kick right on the edge.. Was it inside?
The ref gave so much in their favour it was a joke. No wonder our guys backed out of 50/50s.
 

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GP200 said:
...........and again Big Club Syndrome ...........never a free kick for the first goal ........was it a penalty.........????.......... It's becoming tedious..............
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He was useless and cowardly today, the free kick for the first was a joke decision and the pen, who knows but we wouldn't have got it ?
 

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GP200 said:
...........and again Big Club Syndrome ...........never a free kick for the first goal ........was it a penalty.........????.......... It's becoming tedious..............
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To be fair, he spotted the thuggish Jota breathing on the giant Zouma .....
 

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ladbroke said:
The assistant on our side of pitch.
Why did he not flag the attacker for chasing the keeper down for offside in which Bentley kicked the ball out for a throw in. He forced our keeper to play the ball.

Also, after their penalty we had a free kick right on the edge.. Was it inside?
The ref gave so much in their favour it was a joke. No wonder our guys backed out of 50/50s.
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That was ridiculous as soon as the attacker made an effort to run after the ball he should have been flagged, even the attacker looked across at the lino 2 times presumably as he expected to be flagged.
 

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David Coote for the Villa game. Had a shocker last time here for the Burton game. Remember the long applause and cheers when he finally gave us a free kick in injury time. No doubt he'll remember that and give Villa everything in retribution:fishing:
 

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sonofabee said:
the free kick for the first was a joke decision ?
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It was a pivotal moment in the game as once one nil down we had a mountain to climb and you could see the heads go down afterwards.

I saw nothing wrong with what Vibe did their player just seemed to turn into him, bounce off him and go down like he had been shot. Usual antics and of course Oliver felt compelled to give it, later on the game he was less willing to give them free kicks with Willian in particular playing for them but it was too late by then.
 

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TW1Bee said:
David Coote for the Villa game. Had a shocker last time here for the Burton game. Remember the long applause and cheers when he finally gave us a free kick in injury time. No doubt he'll remember that and give Villa everything in retribution:fishing:
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Ah yes, the rare referee who awarded the smaller away club all the big decisions. I looked him up, he did our 2-1 and 2-2 games against Fulham, and our 2-2 with Ipswich (the two late goals). He did our FA Cup game against Brighton also. I can't remember how good or bad he was in those games, but hopefully he's a lot better than he was against Burton...
 

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Stanley said:
It was a pivotal moment in the game as once one nil down we had a mountain to climb and you could see the heads go down afterwards.

I saw nothing wrong with what Vibe did their player just seemed to turn into him, bounce off him and go down like he had been shot. Usual antics and of course Oliver felt compelled to give it, later on the game he was less willing to give them free kicks with Willian in particular playing for them but it was too late by then.
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Pedro went down because he had lost the ball. Disgraceful decision.
 

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This from The Scottish Sun.

Was the referee (a Mr Tony Fullarton) right to send the goalie off?

LEAKY DEFENCE

Shettleston goalkeeper in Scotland sent off for having a wee behind the goal during a game
West of Scotland Super League side Shotts Bon Accord's official Twitter account sent out the message during their clash with Shettleston

SHETTLESTON manager John Fallon Jr was left stunned after his goalkeeper was sent off for PEEING behind the goals against Shotts Bon Accord.

Garry Whyte was dismissed after 72 minutes of their 1-0 West of Scotland Super League win over The Bonny.

The Town keeper pleaded with officials to let him go to the toilet but was told play wouldn’t be stopped, so he relieved himself behind the goals.

Shettleston manager John Fallon Jr told The Scottish Sun: “He was ready to take his by kick and he shouted over to the linesman that he needed the toilet.

“The linesman said to him, ‘We can’t stop play’.

“Before he took his goal kick, he ran behind the goals and went up to the wall to do a pee. Then he came back on and the referee has sent him off.

“We’ve got no idea why – we’re still trying to find out.

“I think he’s trying to put it under foul and abusive language".

“There’s nothing about it in the rule book so we’re all a bit confused".


Personally I think it should have been yellow. :thetruth:
 

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BEEm us up Scotty said:
This from The Scottish Sun.

Was the referee (a Mr Tony Fullarton) right to send the goalie off?

LEAKY DEFENCE

Shettleston goalkeeper in Scotland sent off for having a wee behind the goal during a game
West of Scotland Super League side Shotts Bon Accord's official Twitter account sent out the message during their clash with Shettleston

SHETTLESTON manager John Fallon Jr was left stunned after his goalkeeper was sent off for PEEING behind the goals against Shotts Bon Accord.

Garry Whyte was dismissed after 72 minutes of their 1-0 West of Scotland Super League win over The Bonny.

The Town keeper pleaded with officials to let him go to the toilet but was told play wouldn’t be stopped, so he relieved himself behind the goals.

Shettleston manager John Fallon Jr told The Scottish Sun: “He was ready to take his by kick and he shouted over to the linesman that he needed the toilet.

“The linesman said to him, ‘We can’t stop play’.

“Before he took his goal kick, he ran behind the goals and went up to the wall to do a pee. Then he came back on and the referee has sent him off.

“We’ve got no idea why – we’re still trying to find out.

“I think he’s trying to put it under foul and abusive language".

“There’s nothing about it in the rule book so we’re all a bit confused".


Personally I think it should have been yellow. :thetruth:
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For starters....
It's a cautionable offence to leave the field of play without the officials permission.
It's also a cautionable offence to re-enter the field of play without the officials permission.
Before people argue about retrieving the ball for throw ins etc, it is accepted that the referee gives permission for these times to retrieve the ball.
It's also a cautionable offence when showing lack of respect to the game.
Also delaying the restart of the game.

Not sure if 2 yellows were shown or if a straight red but he could easily have got 4 yellows.

Alternatively. I could see the referee using the section for using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures and putting it down to indecent gesture.
 

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Isleworth_Bee said:
Just want to have a ref that isnt noticed. ie has a good game.
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Me personally I don't mind a referee that is noticed as long as he makes the correct big calls. Obviously want all calls correct but sometimes it is easier on the telly, or even in the stands as the angles are all different but he should really be up with play and got the best angles for the big calls such as ones in and around the area unlike the free kick for goal #1 v Chelsea.
 

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Thought he was OK tonight, bit pissed off that Lansbury got away with two blatant cynical fouls on Harlee but he couldn't wait to book nico for a run of the mill tackle. Other than that he did a lot right including playing advantage then pulling it back if the advantage came to nothing.
 

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In my opinion he and the linesmen got a lot wrong tonight in our favour. Mainly small things like throw-ins.
 

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mhead bee said:
Thought he was OK tonight, bit pissed off that Lansbury got away with two blatant cynical fouls on Harlee but he couldn't wait to book nico for a run of the mill tackle. Other than that he did a lot right including playing advantage then pulling it back if the advantage came to nothing.
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I agree. He actually had quite a good game, surprisingly. Not perfect, but he let play continue when it was right to do so. Maybe he's "maturing" as a ref?
 

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Barnes Bee said:
After his performance in the Burton game perhaps he felt he owed us something.
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I thought, other than lansbury having something on him to avoid being booked time and again, that he had a positive game.

As for throw ins etc, it is very easy to blame an official but unless he is 100% certain he will go with what he believes is correct. If he believes that the ball didn't take a nick or a touch from an opponent before it crosses the line then he will go that way. It happens..
 

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ladbroke said:
I thought, other than lansbury having something on him to avoid being booked time and again, that he had a positive game.

As for throw ins etc, it is very easy to blame an official but unless he is 100% certain he will go with what he believes is correct. If he believes that the ball didn't take a nick or a touch from an opponent before it crosses the line then he will go that way. It happens..
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So, if he is uncertain he'll go with what he believes is incorrect?

Just teasing.........
 

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Reading away tomorrow and it is our old friend Keith Stroud in charge...:fishing:
 

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.............how did the idiots on Saturday not spot Romaine being physically manhandled in the build up to their fourth goal???..........
 

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He was fine last time out. But with him you just never know.
 

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North London Bee said:
He was fine last time out. But with him you just never know.
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He was 4th official at West Ham on Saturday when Bilic got sent to the stands for picking up and throwing the sound mic in his direction.
Pity he missed !
It'll all be about Mr Stroud tomorrow
 

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Well Stroud doesn't put up with crap, so they won't 'get away' with anything. The problem is he does take that too far sometimes and give penalties and reds for nothing...

Whenever you let your guard down with Stroud though and think he'll be ok is when he strikes...
 

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GP200 said:
.............how did the idiots on Saturday not spot Romaine being physically manhandled in the build up to their fourth goal???..........
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I'm glad someone else has finally asked this question. Sparked some terse words between me and the bloke behind me, starting with him abusing Sawyers for his part in this. Practically throttled him. (Just Sawyers, unfortunately).
 

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heavywoollenbee said:
I'm glad someone else has finally asked this question. Sparked some terse words between me and the bloke behind me, starting with him abusing Sawyers for his part in this. Practically throttled him. (Just Sawyers, unfortunately).
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..............summed up Preston's over physical approach and the refs inability to reign it in............
 

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Invipai said:
Well Stroud doesn't put up with crap, so they won't 'get away' with anything. The problem is he does take that too far sometimes and give penalties and reds for nothing...

Whenever you let your guard down with Stroud though and think he'll be ok is when he strikes...
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Due a shocker then, after his earlier appearence with us.
 

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He's so bad it's untrue. Absolutely f***ing useless.
 
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