Should Scott Go?

[nick logan]

Exactly. Mr Logan has done a phenomenal job defending Scott against an avalanche of criticism - and doing it in such a good natured way. The club would be well and truly finished if someone like that deserted it.

I think the best tribute the club could pay to Nick would be for the Board to phone him in the morning and ask for his agreement before they sack him - as long as he doesn't say no !

Wow thanks all for the nice comments.

I wouldn't gloat if we won the next 5 games, thats not me at all. I am as gutted as anyone believe me. The last 2 games weren't " Brentford " just a piss poor shower of turd.

The players should be pulled up though not just AS. Their was hardly any long ball last night but the lack of quality was shocking for a squad ,that on paper has a lot of pedigree.

 

[Bill Benn]

SCOTT OUT???? - What a joke these statements are.
You are all so quick to tell the board to get rid of him, BUT do you really think we'd get anyone better?
Now I'm sure you will reel off names of managers you'd like to see here but if they're any good they will come at a very high premium which might be out of our budget.
I think give him until at least Christmas as we're not in any danger at the minute.
I also think we all need to be realistic with our ambitions for the club lets have a look at what we've done this season
JPT - In the Semi Final
Lg Cup - Beat Hull & Everton and lost on penalties to a Brum in 4th rnd
FA Cup - less said the better
League - 7 pts off the playoffs, not ideal but by no means time to hit the panic button

Not making me and other fans laugh,give him till xmas, are you saying we need to wait untill we have the target of 33 points from 23 games before we think of sacking him.Think that will limit the appeal of any managers we go for.By the way do you go to many games,not to be critical just like to know in light of your support of AS.

 

[kevalutonbee]

clueless at present Scott. you can't blame a 1-0 loss on a bad start - that gives you 82 minutes to get back at them. and a bad 45 minutes is still only 1-0 down: why aren't they responding in the 2nd half.

this follows up the "i told a man to stand on the back post" (for MK Dons first goal) "but he didn't" - why weren't you screaming at him at the time of the corner to get on the back post? why aren't you subbing the players who aren't doing as you tell them if it is as basic as this?

unacceptable.

Every game he seems to say we have a slow start

 

[Stuardo]

I checked this morning.
We had played 16 games, by 16th Nov last season, gaining 18 points.
We currently have 19 points this season, from 16 games.
:moo:


Interesting to compare to last year too as i think we started brightly and then faded and looked pretty clueless, then he brought in loan players (Pim, Sczesny and others) and it started to turn around again. No evidence that is going to happen this time around

 

[blunstone]

it was a a cup match and upsets happen.

nobody was moaning when we beat hull and everton ---- upsets happen!!!!

a great shame and i too would have liked a cup run but life goes on.

for those who cannot take the bumpy ride there are lots of other things to do in this life or teams to watch. or just come on here and moan.

 

[kevalutonbee]

Right now I'd give David Hunt a start, for sheer enthusiasm if nothing else. Doubt he'll be any worse than what we've had in the centre recently and his set pieces and (wince) even the long throw might at least change our predictable style of play

I'd agree with the fisrt part but not the second. Wright had a reasonably long throw on Saturday but did it help, no, not really.


Whildt I try to see the half full side the stat that we have lost only a few games in the last 40 or so is starting to wear thin with me as we have also won only a few.

As someone pointed out elsewhere you could be undefeated for an entire season and still get relegated if you managed to draw every game

 

[love and mercy]

Wow thanks all for the nice comments.

I wouldn't gloat if we won the next 5 games, thats not me at all. I am as gutted as anyone believe me. The last 2 games weren't " Brentford " just a piss poor shower of turd.

The players should be pulled up though not just AS. Their was hardly any long ball last night but the lack of quality was shocking for a squad ,that on paper has a lot of pedigree.

Nick the point is that AS prepares the players and motivates them to put in a good performance.He simply is not doing that players are confused and are obviously not playing for him.
The good results we have had have been freak.
The players didnt need any motivation for the cup games .As Weston said "its a chance to put myself in the shop window"

 

[ACbee]

Against dons, Pim looked unhappy. Weston looked like he's fed up.

And I would hope so too, but not due to the fact that the manager hasn't massaged their egos, given them a cuddle or a kick up the arse, but because they are relatively well paid professional sportsmen, who are under-performing.

I'm not defending AS, his style of play, the recent results or game form, because it's not been acceptable, but ultimately, the above two players, plus anyone else who AS selects for any given game, should have enough pride in what they do personally to pick themselves up off the floor and give everything. Not for the fans, or the manager, but themselves as professional footballers.

As far as I can see AS isn't stopping Weston from running with the ball when he does get it to feet, beating a defender and putting in a decent cross, but he hasn't been doing it. AS isn't asking Pim to tug a player back twice in 2 minutes in stupid areas out of frustration after getting the wrong side of his man, but Pim did it. But yet there seems to be a huge imbalance of criticism aimed towards both sets of people, the management and the players.

How many of our players are performing to a consistently acceptable level? Lee. Woodman. And now I'm struggling.

What is happening is unacceptable as I said, and I'm not in the 'Scott in', or in fact the 'Scott out' camp as I can't make up my mind myself. What I am saying is that we have had numerous threads berating Scott, and the players IMO are getting off lightly.

Scott does need to take responsibility, I agree. But the players need to also put their hands up and say they've not been collectively good enough too.

 

[jlove]

Every game he seems to say we have a slow start

... could that be because... we have a slow start? It is noticeable that when we do start with momentum we go on to have a good game. I'm sure Scott doesn't say "go out there, lads, and stroll around, backing off and falling deep for the first 30 minutes, then I'll wake you up at half time" but that does seem to be what has happened recently.

 

[Bill Benn]

it was a a cup match and upsets happen.

nobody was moaning when we beat hull and everton ---- upsets happen!!!!

a great shame and i too would have liked a cup run but life goes on.

for those who cannot take the bumpy ride there are lots of other things to do in this life or teams to watch. or just come on here and moan.

Do l take it that you are saying "if you don't like it go and support another team"?Looking at your posts your hardly Tommy Cooper are you.
As far as Bumpy rides with Brentford l have had many over the last 50 years and so have many other fans.Nobody was moaning when we beat Hull and Everton are you surprised?we are football fans do you think we cheer when we lose?Your sort will be happy playing in front of Barnet next year with 1500 cheering on the team as they go down 3 0 ,well i wont.

 

[Kingston Bee]

The sensible way for the board to approach this situation (if it were to happen) would be to have someone lined up (and I don't mean Martin Allen). This may have a greater influence on the timing of any change rather than the lack of entertainment or results on the pitch. This is where I have a problem in that we are looking likely to finish anywhere between 12th and 18th, below expectations obviously but not an absolute disaster. This is no reason not to change but IMO there is no obvious candidate, having said that Scotty was not an obvious candidate either and he did ok to get us out of lge 2. At the mom I do not see anyone out there who is available who could better a mid table finish this season, or take us into the play offs next season.

 

[kevalutonbee]

... could that be because... we have a slow start? It is noticeable that when we do start with momentum we go on to have a good game. I'm sure Scott doesn't say "go out there, lads, and stroll around, backing off and falling deep for the first 30 minutes, then I'll wake you up at half time" but that does seem to be what has happened recently.

Think what I meant was it happens too frequently so has anybody

a) identified a reason
b) done anything about it

My conclusion is that if the answer to a is yes, then I can't see any evidence that b has been tackled yet

 

[Ghost]

The players should be pulled up though not just AS. Their was hardly any long ball last night but the lack of quality was shocking for a squad ,that on paper has a lot of pedigree.

We have a squad teeming with players that a lot of us (who incidentally do know a fair bit or two about footer) have admired from a far at other clubs. I am thinking Spillane, Forster, Alexander and Saunders/Hudson who have excelled at other clubs albeit SS and KH at a lower level. Only Woodman has produced the goods for AS. You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to find a common denominator. Poor tactics Watson...and tactics come from the management. I can think of no other reason why we have managed to turn good players into shadows of the players we have seen elsewhere. They obviously are playing with no confidence in how they are being instructed to play and even the sunday league player can perform 25% better if they have confidence.

People can twist the stats as much as they like but I think (sadly) it is time for Scott to go. I honestly think if I was given a sabatical from my day job to work with our squad (with the quality we have) I could get more out of them and I think a lot of us could. Quite frankly it is more of an "achievement" by AS to have got our "on paper full of pedigree" squad playing so badly! Football is a simple game and it seems Scott is trying to force his tactics to work at all costs. Good, experienced players that we have don't need "overcoaching" just let them go and play FFS!
Maybe "players aren't doing what they are told" because players that have been around the game think our tactics are b***ocks too. If AS repeats it enough maybe the penny will drop.

 

[nick logan]

Nick the point is that AS prepares the players and motivates them to put in a good performance.He simply is not doing that players are confused and are obviously not playing for him.
The good results we have had have been freak.
The players didnt need any motivation for the cup games .As Weston said "its a chance to put myself in the shop window"

The good results haven't been freak mate except Exeter which was a weird one. We played well in the other wins.

 

[moribee]

when gut wrenching disapointment turns into indiference its dangerous

 

[malvernbee]

Recent history of sackings before Christmas:
Eddie May - 5th November
Leroy - 18th November
Terry - 11 December
John Docherty went in September, But a bit before my time.

 

[Ghost]

http://www.stainesnews.co.uk/surrey...ng-boss-mad-after-fa-cup-loss-64767-27668876/

if that doesn't sound like a team that has no confidence in their manager I don't know what does.

 

[Gosport Bee]

when gut wrenching disapointment turns into indiference its dangerous

everyone seems to be just expecting another crap performance

 

[The Pipe]

A shame if it all ends in tears however it is very difficult to justify continuing with a Manager whose team play in such an inept manner ( cant comment on last night as Saturday was a game too far for me). Can place some of the blame on the players however these are ones that Andy has got in having spent a lot of time studying their abilities, therefore one has to question his ability to spot talent??

We then move on to the tactics, or rather none tactics, that these players are asked to perform, if we just hit the ball long then it is coming right back at us, in the Scott scenario a decent midfielder is not required as by and large we bypass the midfield completely and there only requirement is to break upo the opposition play.

We have seen inumerable teams play better passing football than us yet there is little sign of any change in the style from us and in fact I would suggest that week on week it is getting worse. 1 shot on goal in 3 games says it all.

In my opinion Scott did well to get us out of the bottom division but is looking more and more likely to take us back, this time playing a football that is driving fans away and therefore should the worse happen and we get relegated then our fan base will be even less. Is this something the board can ignore or are they confident that Uncle mathews money will cover any losses??

The time has come to make a change and for those who query who is available I would suggest that should the position be advertised there will be a considerable number of Managers from those unemployed to those in work who are looking to progress and it is up to the board to determine which ones are likely to set up a team that is capable of enyertaining the punters and next season push for promotion.

The present position cannmot be allowed to drift on, I have every respect for the Scott supporters for whom it must seem like they are puishing a rock uphill, if ultimatley they are correct then I will be the first to apologise, however even if results start to improve the damage may have been done in the unapetising football that he plays as that will I am afraid keep punters away from GP.

For the club that I love and which I have been supporting home and away for over 50 years I would ask that Scott leaves now so that in my old age I can have something to look forward to at the weekend.

 

[Ghost]

A shame if it all ends in tears however it is very difficult to justify continuing with a Manager whose team play in such an inept manner ( cant comment on last night as Saturday was a game too far for me). Can place some of the blame on the players however these are ones that Andy has got in having spent a lot of time studying their abilities, therefore one has to question his ability to spot talent??

We then move on to the tactics, or rather none tactics, that these players are asked to perform, if we just hit the ball long then it is coming right back at us, in the Scott scenario a decent midfielder is not required as by and large we bypass the midfield completely and there only requirement is to break upo the opposition play.

We have seen inumerable teams play better passing football than us yet there is little sign of any change in the style from us and in fact I would suggest that week on week it is getting worse. 1 shot on goal in 3 games says it all.

In my opinion Scott did well to get us out of the bottom division but is looking more and more likely to take us back, this time playing a football that is driving fans away and therefore should the worse happen and we get relegated then our fan base will be even less. Is this something the board can ignore or are they confident that Uncle mathews money will cover any losses??

The time has come to make a change and for those who query who is available I would suggest that should the position be advertised there will be a considerable number of Managers from those unemployed to those in work who are looking to progress and it is up to the board to determine which ones are likely to set up a team that is capable of enyertaining the punters and next season push for promotion.

The present position cannmot be allowed to drift on, I have every respect for the Scott supporters for whom it must seem like they are puishing a rock uphill, if ultimatley they are correct then I will be the first to apologise, however even if results start to improve the damage may have been done in the unapetising football that he plays as that will I am afraid keep punters away from GP.

For the club that I love and which I have been supporting home and away for over 50 years I would ask that Scott leaves now so that in my old age I can have something to look forward to at the weekend.

Nail, head, *BANG*

 

[bexleyheat]

The sensible way for the board to approach this situation (if it were to happen) would be to have someone lined up (and I don't mean Martin Allen). This may have a greater influence on the timing of any change rather than the lack of entertainment or results on the pitch. This is where I have a problem in that we are looking likely to finish anywhere between 12th and 18th, below expectations obviously but not an absolute disaster. This is no reason not to change but IMO there is no obvious candidate, having said that Scotty was not an obvious candidate either and he did ok to get us out of lge 2. At the mom I do not see anyone out there who is available who could better a mid table finish this season, or take us into the play offs next season.

Ray Wilkins "left" Chelsea without speaking out about his demise. Rumour has it this was because he's been tapped up by the powers that bee at Brentford.

 

[Gee Bee]

Ray Wilkins "left" Chelsea without speaking out about his demise. Rumour has it this was because he's been tapped up by the powers that bee at Brentford.

Or it may have ben part of the financial package not to say anything.

 

[Kingston Bee]

Ray Wilkins "left" Chelsea without speaking out about his demise. Rumour has it this was because he's been tapped up by the powers that bee at Brentford.

Well he will take an instant liking KOC, Dave and Bean, who all play sideways just like he did!

 

[62-63]

I think some of the players are very much pro Scott and a larger group anti.A fair reflection of the feeling on here I would say.
My memory isnt so great but didnt Nicky Forster make these darting little runs onto through balls from midfield the last time he was here?.I really admire him for trying to become a right winger so late in his career!.
I dont know what goes on behind the scenes at BFC,but it does seem if you upset AS you dont play many games,especially in the position that suits you best.
We have been crap before but this time people seem so angry and frustrated,and I think its because we actually do have some GOOD players.
I was going to Plymouth,but not now,cant face it.

 

[Kingston Bee]

I think some of the players are very much pro Scott and a larger group anti.A fair reflection of the feeling on here I would say.
My memory isnt so great but didnt Nicky Forster make these darting little runs onto through balls from midfield the last time he was here?.I really admire him for trying to become a right winger so late in his career!.
I dont know what goes on behind the scenes at BFC,but it does seem if you upset AS you dont play many games,especially in the position that suits you best.
We have been crap before but this time people seem so angry and frustrated,and I think its because we actually do have some GOOD players.
I was going to Plymouth,but not now,cant face it.

I think a lot of it is to do with higher expectations, ie more money, bigger squad etc etc. Blame it on Mr Benham, if he had not come along we all would have been happier to settle for less, its Brentford innit.

 

[Bliss]

And I would hope so too, but not due to the fact that the manager hasn't massaged their egos, given them a cuddle or a kick up the arse, but because they are relatively well paid professional sportsmen, who are under-performing.

I'm not defending AS, his style of play, the recent results or game form, because it's not been acceptable, but ultimately, the above two players, plus anyone else who AS selects for any given game, should have enough pride in what they do personally to pick themselves up off the floor and give everything. Not for the fans, or the manager, but themselves as professional footballers.

As far as I can see AS isn't stopping Weston from running with the ball when he does get it to feet, beating a defender and putting in a decent cross, but he hasn't been doing it. AS isn't asking Pim to tug a player back twice in 2 minutes in stupid areas out of frustration after getting the wrong side of his man, but Pim did it. But yet there seems to be a huge imbalance of criticism aimed towards both sets of people, the management and the players.

How many of our players are performing to a consistently acceptable level? Lee. Woodman. And now I'm struggling.

What is happening is unacceptable as I said, and I'm not in the 'Scott in', or in fact the 'Scott out' camp as I can't make up my mind myself. What I am saying is that we have had numerous threads berating Scott, and the players IMO are getting off lightly.

Scott does need to take responsibility, I agree. But the players need to also put their hands up and say they've not been collectively good enough too.

 

[Davee]

I think a lot of it is to do with higher expectations, ie more money, bigger squad etc etc. Blame it on Mr Benham, if he had not come along we all would have been happier to settle for less, its Brentford innit.

If he had not come along we would now either be bust or at best in the Conference.

Who do you think paid for the big money loans that got us out of Div 4??

 

[Kingston Bee]

If he had not come along we would now either be bust or at best in the Conference.

Who do you think paid for the big money loans that got us out of Div 4??

That is exactly my point, we would have had to settle for less.

 

[maddogging]

I will be pretty disappointed if he is still here for Plymouth. I see nothing or no reason as to why he is all of a sudden going to turn it round. Loans were needed ages ago but maybe the board have been correct in saying that you put this squad together in August at a considerably higher value than before , so you work with it.

Generally you know the end is near when players are played out of position, bizarre subs, rambling press conferences blaming players.

 

[love and mercy]

The good results haven't been freak mate except Exeter which was a weird one. We played well in the other wins.

Ok I will take your word for it .

 

[fallacy]

He won't go before Plymouth, the performances may justify that but actual results don't.....yet.

On that basis, keep him here for the 2 away games. If we don't pick up anything then he has to go, 4 out of 6 then it will go on (I don't want it to, but I'm just being realistic), 6/6 then can't complain results wise.

But believe me, I want him out now.

 

[kevalutonbee]

I will be pretty disappointed if he is still here for Plymouth. I see nothing or no reason as to why he is all of a sudden going to turn it round. Loans were needed ages ago but maybe the board have been correct in saying that you put this squad together in August at a considerably higher value than before , so you work with it.

Generally you know the end is near when players are played out of position, bizarre subs, rambling press conferences blaming players.

But the players have been played out of position for ages, even back to last year

 

[Houghton Bee]

And I would hope so too, but not due to the fact that the manager hasn't massaged their egos, given them a cuddle or a kick up the arse, but because they are relatively well paid professional sportsmen, who are under-performing.

Shortened the length of the post but i fully agree with all thats written

 

[Low End Bee]

He won't go before Plymouth, the performances may justify that but actual results don't.....yet.

On that basis, keep him here for the 2 away games. If we don't pick up anything then he has to go, 4 out of 6 then it will go on (I don't want it to, but I'm just being realistic), 6/6 then can't complain results wise.

But believe me, I want him out now.

Be bad management to not give him those games to get something going.

10 days between games after Colchester away for evaluating a replacement if required.

So many people want him to go I now find myself on his side hoping he gets it sorted. With a watchable brand of football hopefully. If I can do a U turn so can he.
I love an underdog and I'm quite possibly insane.

 

[RitchBee]

http://www.stainesnews.co.uk/surrey...ng-boss-mad-after-fa-cup-loss-64767-27668876/

if that doesn't sound like a team that has no confidence in their manager I don't know what does.

How many games at home this season have we started off slowly?

Apart from Charlton that is the only one I can think of we haven't.

It's like the team have heard it all before and still can't be arsed to do anything about it so the players do have to take some responsilbilty for the recent results but this has come about from AS not wanting to change his style of play IMHO.

Once you lose the players your a dead man walking I'm afraid.

Their body language says it all for me....

Ah well another 10 players in January that will resolve it short term..:sad:

 

[Low End Bee]

How many games at home this season have we started off slowly?

Apart from Charlton that is the only one I can think of we haven't.

It's like the team have heard it all before and still can't be arsed to do anything about it so the players do have to take some responsilbilty for the recent results but this has come about from AS not wanting to change his style of play IMHO.

Once you lose the players your a dead man walking I'm afraid.

Their body language says it all for me....

Ah well another 10 players in January that will resolve it short term..:sad:

We scored early against Oldham.

 

[RitchBee]

We scored early against Oldham.

But we didn't dominate the play despite being the home team which is what I'm trying to put across here.

 

[mattbee85]

I have never been for scott out but i think it now has to be considered at least. I think we have an ok squad mid league one nothing more. Scott week in week out says he tells the players one thing and they do another. This tells me they 1. think they are too big for the club so should F**k off, 2. they think AS talks sh*t and have no respect or 3. they are simply not good enough. The fact is it all boils down to AS. If he is week in week out playing people who are not listening to his instructions then why are they playing the following week?? David Hunt who seems like a model pro and would jump at the chance to play at the moment is not being played and i am 99.9% ceratin if AS gave someone like hunty an instruction he would do his best to follow it and make people around him follow it. If its the fact that they are not good enough then Scotts decision in signings and what hes wasted money on have to be questioned and so does his position!!! To me its very staright forward if he plays 11 players and 4 players dont listen then they have to be dropped until they do start to listen. Maybe KOC is partly to blame aswell. Hes club captain but i rarely see him doing anything influential like captains do. I dont expect talent like steven gerrard but someone with passion and fight like him would be nice. Seems to me AS has totally run out of ideas of how to get the squad to respond and play. He seems unable to alter formation or team against different opponents and this will cost us. We have to many good individual players to go down imho but we need someone who can get the very best out of the current squad and when they do get BFCs money are a little less slap dash when signing players wether it be permenant or on loan.

 

[Low End Bee]

But we didn't dominate the play despite being the home team which is what I'm trying to put across here.

Fair enough. It's still a good way to start though.

 

[Ghost]

I David Hunt who seems like a model pro and would jump at the chance to play at the moment is not being played and i am 99.9% ceratin if AS gave someone like hunty an instruction he would do his best to follow it and make people around him follow it. .

Well said. It's an absolute ****ing disgrace that David Hunt is not playing in my opinion. Nearest thing to a leader we have, and nearest we have to a midfield player that can make things happen. Oh well, at leat he has more time to write his blog and with all respect I would rather he was spending more time on the pitch.

 

[1markbee]

If AS stays then move the dugouts back to the Main Stand but near the players tunnel. That way the players can ignor the crap they have to hear.

Listen to what AS says, it's alway 'get the ball to midfield, then out to our wide players!!!!' Why can't the bloody centre midfielders create chance FFS!!! Now you can see why King Kev never passes forwards, only sideways!!!

Start playing your own way lads, sod the instructions. Every week we hear you aren't doing what you are told so you may as well carry on but this time, play the ball to feet. A few passes though the opposition defences will be great for starters. I'm sure Charlie would appreciate that.

MARTIN ALLEN please come back, if not lets try David Hunt . I bet he'd be a great motivator and would bring the crazy gang spirit to the club.

 

[1markbee]

Well said. It's an absolute ****ing disgrace that David Hunt is not playing in my opinion. Nearest thing to a leader we have, and nearest we have to a midfield player that can make things happen. Oh well, at leat he has more time to write his blog and with all respect I would rather he was spending more time on the pitch.

Something must have happened behind the scenes there. I bet Hunt said some home truths and AS didn't like it. Maybe it's time he did listen to the players!!

 

[mattbee85]

If AS stays then move the dugouts back to the Main Stand but near the players tunnel. That way the players can ignor the crap they have to hear.

Listen to what AS says, it's alway 'get the ball to midfield, then out to our wide players!!!!' Why can't the bloody centre midfielders create chance FFS!!! Now you can see why King Kev never passes forwards, only sideways!!!

Start playing your own way lads, sod the instructions. Every week we hear you aren't doing what you are told so you may as well carry on but this time, play the ball to feet. A few passes though the opposition defences will be great for starters. I'm sure Charlie would appreciate that.

MARTIN ALLEN please come back, if not lets try David Hunt . I bet he'd be a great motivator and would bring the crazy gang spirit to the club.

Do you know what i know you have put a ;-) next to the David Hunt thing but from what i read and have seen of him i can imagine him being a manger!!!! He seems like a motivator, like he wants to always do the best he can and is clearly quite knowledgeable!!!! But yes i would be happy with MA back!!!! What a game that would be to look forward to MAs first game back!!!

 

[bostonhanwell]

I really had a lot of faith in AS and the squad at the start of the season. After 30+ years supporting the Bees I am a pragmatist not an optimist but I really thought this would be a good season for us.

The biggest disappointment has been the style of play not just the poor results. I think it was right that we didn't sack Andy after the first few games although the warning signs were there for everyone to see. Since then there has been no change of personnel or tactics (except the strange Nicky Adams saga)

Why when we had money to spend in the summer did we not bring in someone up front with pace, or some creativity in midfield?

I do not think all the signings were bad ones. Spillane and Woodman have done well, Simpson looks a good player, we were all chuffed when we signed Dave and Pim. Nicky Forster is a proven scorer and despite his age looked a reasonable prospect.

Last season we finished 9th and added to the squad in the summer. This season things just have not gelled at all. I listen to the commentaries and to be honest we have sounded clueless most of the time and I can fully understand why so many people are not going at the moment. We never look like we are going to score or play decent football.

It is up to the manager to acquire the right squad, get the tactics right, motivate the players and win games. This on the whole has not happened this season. We should not be blinded by the win against Everton, they should have beaten us soundly that night.

Defeats (and the manner of) against Walsall, Rochdale, Orient, Odham and Aldershot are unacceptable.

During the Summer someone on here said they had no faith in Andy. I defended him on the basis that it is a results business and Andy had delivered over the last 3 seasons. He is not delivering any more. Many of the faithful are turning their backs on it, the players look a dis-organised shambles. I do not think this is the way forward, so unfortunately I think it is time for a new start.

If I had to choose I would look at Deano at Newport.

 

[beeautiful!]

He should go because he says the same sh*t every press conference and is too stubborn / clueless to change 'doing what we do'.

 

[RitchBee]

I really had a lot of faith in AS and the squad at the start of the season. After 30+ years supporting the Bees I am a pragmatist not an optimist but I really thought this would be a good season for us.

The biggest disappointment has been the style of play not just the poor results. I think it was right that we didn't sack Andy after the first few games although the warning signs were there for everyone to see. Since then there has been no change of personnel or tactics (except the strange Nicky Adams saga)

Why when we had money to spend in the summer did we not bring in someone up front with pace, or some creativity in midfield?

I do not think all the signings were bad ones. Spillane and Woodman have done well, Simpson looks a good player, we were all chuffed when we signed Dave and Pim. Nicky Forster is a proven scorer and despite his age looked a reasonable prospect.

Last season we finished 9th and added to the squad in the summer. This season things just have not gelled at all. I listen to the commentaries and to be honest we have sounded clueless most of the time and I can fully understand why so many people are not going at the moment. We never look like we are going to score or play decent football.

It is up to the manager to acquire the right squad, get the tactics right, motivate the players and win games. This on the whole has not happened this season. We should not be blinded by the win against Everton, they should have beaten us soundly that night.

Defeats (and the manner of) against Walsall, Rochdale, Orient, Odham and Aldershot are unacceptable.

During the Summer someone on here said they had no faith in Andy. I defended him on the basis that it is a results business and Andy had delivered over the last 3 seasons. He is not delivering any more. Many of the faithful are turning their backs on it, the players look a dis-organised shambles. I do not think this is the way forward, so unfortunately I think it is time for a new start.

If I had to choose I would look at Deano at Newport.

Great post sums up my views exactly

Not sure about Deano though...........

 

[sussexb]

Be bad management to not give him those games to get something going.

10 days between games after Colchester away for evaluating a replacement if required.

So many people want him to go I now find myself on his side hoping he gets it sorted. With a watchable brand of football hopefully. If I can do a U turn so can he.
I love an underdog and I'm quite possibly insane.

lol

I'm with the Pipe and Ghost. Don't see how this can carry on.

 

[mattbee85]

He should go because he says the same sh*t every press conference and is too stubborn / clueless to change 'doing what we do'.

Do you know what there would not be so many for scott to leave if he didnt come up with this bullshit every week!!! your right people are sick of hearing his w**k excuses. He never holds his hands up and says i picked the wrong 11 or got it tactically wrong. I think his early success as manager may have made him think he was alot better than he was and now as its our 2nd season in league 1 other teams have worked us out and due to his inability to change things and his inexperience we are totally exposed and have no plan B.

 

[Ambrose_1889]

I would say he's got the next two games to get some positive results but if he were to be sacked tomorrow, you wouldn't hear many complaints from me.

 

[bostonhanwell]

He should go because he says the same sh*t every press conference and is too stubborn / clueless to change 'doing what we do'.

And it's no good saying the players didn't do their jobs etc every time. He bought most of them and selects the team. You can get away with it once or twice but how many times have we heard it this season......?

Successful managers are able to change tactics if things are not working but we are still hoofing all the time and getting nowhere.