Ashford Bees
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David Raya
Hope we get rid. He's error prone
Get a grip ffs
Hope we get rid. He's error prone
Get a grip ffs
Also. The toxic replies to my post is a downside of the the good forum that the GPG is. It's a pity that an expressed view gets met with abuse and name calling. Hopefully it's something that can be dealt with down the line
I think what's grated people is the suggestion that we need a new goalkeeper because of it, we don't. He's one of the best in the Championship. This is the ceiling on goalkeepers until we do get promoted one day.
We'll be fine, but I think right now isn't the time for us to suggest whole fire changes. We'll lose a few, we'll bring in a few. We'll keep a lot of the spine.
Also. The toxic replies to my post is a downside of the the good forum that the GPG is. It's a pity that an expressed view gets met with abuse and name calling. Hopefully it's something that can be dealt with down the line
To be fair, even this reasoned post is insulting to Raya!
I've deleted the name calling and will continue to do so. Everything else you'll have to suck up as "alternative opinions to you".
Yes, he was. But most of the rest of the team didn't turn up. We created nothing all night, were slow, ponderous and devoid of ideas and confidence. This happened in 3 crucial games. THAT is the matter to address, not one lapse in concentration from our best keeper in years.
Based on one mistake, you want him out and a 'more experienced' goalie brought in? Look at some of the rickets that happen in the PL on a regular basis.
A great keeper. Has a howler in him but has saved more then conceded, so has my vote
The stats tell the story, Raya and the defence have been very tight. Parker saw an opportunity on how Raya positions himself and it was executed very effectively, no complaints. Raya has been excellent not only in his ability to catch and save but with his fantastic distribution, looking forward to seeing him at LR next season ?
If reasoned, then of course. Thanks les
Credit to Fulham for working out that that chance might come up as a possibility in the game and then executing it so well. Couldn't believe it when it drifted in.
Fulham's hero Joe Bryan: 'Scott Parker said to whip it in the near post because the keeper comes ridiculously far off his line'
Also. The toxic replies to my post is a downside of the the good forum that the GPG is. It's a pity that an expressed view gets met with abuse and name calling. Hopefully it's something that can be dealt with down the line
Had a great game today. The goal was what it was - wouldn’t call it an error so much as just being caught out with a clever effort.
Had a great game today. The goal was what it was - wouldn’t call it an error so much as just being caught out with a clever effort.
Yes as I’ve said elsewhere Raya, Jansson and the set piece coach got caught out . In my mind you should always have a least one player blocking of that route to goal
He anticipated the ball being crossed?
Over the years when I was a keeper I was caught out in a similar fashion a couple of times.
Bryan could have tried the same thing another 10 times and he’d either have placed it in Rayas arms or missed the target completely...it’s a percentage game being a keeper. You try to anticipate the most likely scenario.
Sadly on this occasion the less likely scenario occurred.
That is the joys of being a keeper.
I guess we could revert back to a Button, Bentley etc who seem sh*t scared coming off their line to deal with crosses and come with such lack of conviction it creates uncertainty and ultimately costs us more goals

Been excellent this season but totally screwed up last night
You're pushing at an open door there, mate.
I think it's only Tom and maybe one other on this thread that would like Raya moved on. An 'experienced' keeper was mentioned. What about Joe Hart? Or De Gea? They're very experienced, have played for PL champions & never make mistakes!![]()
His positioning was at fault.lol defend him if you want
He was at fault for the goal
If you're going to abuse each other. would you mind doing it on Twitter please?

Strange that no other clubs have seen this.Interesting to hear that Fulham had worked on that set piece in training after noting that Raya has really aggressive positioning on free kicks![]()
We don't need 'fans' like you.
Of course it was extremely well executed - any free kick from that range pretty much has to be.Agree. I don’t think I’ve actually seen a free kick hit that well in that cheeky way since Gary McAllister tried it all those years ago.
Only in the sense that this wasn't some idea which DR suddenly took upon himself to try out. He must have discussed it with his goalkeeping coach, plus the other defensive coaches.It’s not his fault.
Some might have, while other, less well organised ones might not have.Strange that no other clubs have seen this.
Some might have, while other, less well organised ones might not have.
And even with the smarter ones, this is only DR's first season at BFC, so it might not have been obvious until well into the season i.e. after they'd already played us once.
Thereafter they might not have got a free kick in that position in the return game from which to test the weakness, and/or didn't have a player like Bryan capable of exploiting it.
But you can be damned sure that if DR persists with that positioning next season, they'll all be lining up to try it!
Sorry, but his positioning was awful, like locking the front door, while leaving the back door wide open.I think his position was fine, the ball wasnt THAT far to his right, it seemed more his concentration/anticipation that cost us. Its like he hasnt even considered it an option that they would go for goal. By the time he sorted his mind and feet out to go the opposite way it was too late. One to learn from, just a shame it was such a costly lapse
Sorry, but his positioning was awful, like locking the front door, while leaving the back door wide open.
Or put it this way, do you think Bryan would have beaten him from that range had he been two steps back and a step to his (DR's) right? Not a hope, in fact Bryan wouldn't even have tried it.
It's only natural in the midst of crushing disappointment to try to "explain" or downplay an error like that, esp for a player who has been so excellent otherwise.
But sometimes you've just got to accept the most obvious conclusion. Which was that with our defenders holding such a high line at free kicks like that, DR was required to position himself further forward and towards the back post than most gk's do, meaning that he left more of a gap at his near post than normal.
And Fulham spotted it and exploited it.