General General BFC Transfer Thread

[Banana]

Well, you're actually so sure let's see the evidence.

You know I'm correct

 

[Banana]

The missing piece of the jigsaw hasn’t changed since Eriksen’s brief cameo: an attacking midfielder who can run at players and chip in with regular goals. In short, an Italia 90 Gazza (without the baggage). Should be easy for a Geordie like Phil…

His name is Josh Dasilva.

 

[Bumbling fool]

The missing piece of the jigsaw hasn’t changed since Eriksen’s brief cameo: an attacking midfielder who can run at players and chip in with regular goals. In short, an Italia 90 Gazza (without the baggage). Should be easy for a Geordie like Phil…

Think we've just been unlucky with injuries in this department, you're describing JDS, Milambo, and to an extent Carvalho (though he's more about trickery in zone 14 than strident carries through the thirds)

 

[Bigbee]

His name is Josh Dasilva.

oh yeah , we should be playing him then

 

[Wouldbee]

I'm interested to see how the equation of squad numbers plays out this second half of the season. We've offloaded Maghoma, a few out on loan....... only the Bruge lad in . But its January and we are doing well in the league so does it make sense to stick with what we have and spend in the summer ? And we have quite a few up and comings for whom next season would likely be stepping up or stepping out time. Thinking Konak, Kim, Arthur etc.
Of course this is idle thought. PG will tell you it's all about the right moment for a deal. Which could be now. For someone we've never heard of who isn't on anyones radar except his and MB's.
What a time to be a Bees fan.

 

[Bumbling fool]

I'm interested to see how the equation of squad numbers plays out this second half of the season. We've offloaded Maghoma, a few out on loan....... only the Bruge lad in . But its January and we are doing well in the league so does it make sense to stick with what we have and spend in the summer ? And we have quite a few up and comings for whom next season would likely be stepping up or stepping out time. Thinking Konak, Kim, Arthur etc.
Of course this is idle thought. PG will tell you it's all about the right moment for a deal. Which could be now. For someone we've never heard of who isn't on anyones radar except his and MB's.
What a time to be a Bees fan.

Our registered Squad players (*Home grown)
Adedokun
Ajer
Balcombe*
Collins*
Cox*
Damsgaard
Carvalho*
Harris, Myles Spencer*
Henderson*
Henry*
Hickey
Janelt
Jensen
Kelleher*
Lewis-Potter*
Maghoma*
Thiago
Nelson*
Onyeka
Ouattara
Pinnock*
Schade
Valdimarsson
Van Den Berg*

So having only registered 24 (including adedokun who clearly is just there as backup cos we had the space anyway) 3 are gone already with only an u21 coming in. So assuming that's it for Jan we're on 21 senior squad members with only 11 out of a possible 17 not home-grown.

From next season Kayode and Yarmoliuk will no longer be u21s. All of our first team loanees will still be u21, and of the b teamers out on loan only Brierly and Olakigbe would be over 21. There's a handful of B teamers over 21 who aren't on loan but I don't really see any of them taking up a squad place unless we've got some going spare like with adedokun this season.

Nelson as it stands will go back to arsenal so I think we can treat the possibility of him staying as a new signing rather than including him. Onyeka will almost certainly go next summer if he doesn't go this window.

So assuming no first team promotion for Brierly or Olakigbe, no permanent deal for Nelson and a sale for Onyeka, we can register 4 more senior players without moving anyone else on, and none of them would need to be home grown.

Basically I think the limiting factor is gonna be our desire not to have an overcrowded squad rather than any issues around registration numbers

 

[Gee Bee]

Our registered Squad players (*Home grown)
Adedokun
Ajer
Balcombe*
Collins*
Cox*
Damsgaard
Carvalho*
Harris, Myles Spencer*
Henderson*
Henry*
Hickey
Janelt
Jensen
Kelleher*
Lewis-Potter*
Maghoma*
Thiago
Nelson*
Onyeka
Ouattara
Pinnock*
Schade
Valdimarsson
Van Den Berg*

So having only registered 24 (including adedokun who clearly is just there as backup cos we had the space anyway) 3 are gone already with only an u21 coming in. So assuming that's it for Jan we're on 21 senior squad members with only 11 out of a possible 17 not home-grown.

From next season Kayode and Yarmoliuk will no longer be u21s. All of our first team loanees will still be u21, and of the b teamers out on loan only Brierly and Olakigbe would be over 21. There's a handful of B teamers over 21 who aren't on loan but I don't really see any of them taking up a squad place unless we've got some going spare like with adedokun this season.

Nelson as it stands will go back to arsenal so I think we can treat the possibility of him staying as a new signing rather than including him. Onyeka will almost certainly go next summer if he doesn't go this window.

So assuming no first team promotion for Brierly or Olakigbe, no permanent deal for Nelson and a sale for Onyeka, we can register 4 more senior players without moving anyone else on, and none of them would need to be home grown.

Basically I think the limiting factor is gonna be our desire not to have an overcrowded squad rather than any issues around registration numbers

I suspect Pinnock might well leave too

 

[maddogging]

I suspect Pinnock might well leave too

Not now Ajer is injured

 

[Gee Bee]

Not now Ajer is injured

At season end, not now

 

[aslan]

His name is Josh Dasilva.

And his understudy, Milambo

 

[Wouldbee]

Our registered Squad players (*Home grown)
Adedokun
Ajer
Balcombe*
Collins*
Cox*
Damsgaard
Carvalho*
Harris, Myles Spencer*
Henderson*
Henry*
Hickey
Janelt
Jensen
Kelleher*
Lewis-Potter*
Maghoma*
Thiago
Nelson*
Onyeka
Ouattara
Pinnock*
Schade
Valdimarsson
Van Den Berg*

So having only registered 24 (including adedokun who clearly is just there as backup cos we had the space anyway) 3 are gone already with only an u21 coming in. So assuming that's it for Jan we're on 21 senior squad members with only 11 out of a possible 17 not home-grown.

From next season Kayode and Yarmoliuk will no longer be u21s. All of our first team loanees will still be u21, and of the b teamers out on loan only Brierly and Olakigbe would be over 21. There's a handful of B teamers over 21 who aren't on loan but I don't really see any of them taking up a squad place unless we've got some going spare like with adedokun this season.

Nelson as it stands will go back to arsenal so I think we can treat the possibility of him staying as a new signing rather than including him. Onyeka will almost certainly go next summer if he doesn't go this window.

So assuming no first team promotion for Brierly or Olakigbe, no permanent deal for Nelson and a sale for Onyeka, we can register 4 more senior players without moving anyone else on, and none of them would need to be home grown.

Basically I think the limiting factor is gonna be our desire not to have an overcrowded squad rather than any issues around registration numbers

Thanks for that good overview. I imagine the current injuries wont increase our rate of hiring this winter. We buy or loan when the time is right , not to cover injury , by and large. But equally the time is right for the likes of Onyeka and Pinnock to go. It might leave us stretched but we've had worse and only half season to see out. In a funny way Id rather we tread water a bit now so Keith and crew can invest wisely in the summer for a bumper season next time out. Again this is idle chat because we purchase on a right time/ right price basis.

 

[SH]

His name is Josh Dasilva.

I'm a big fan, but even in the one PL season where he played a lot of games (22/23) he only started something like 14 out of 36.

 

[jlove]

I'm a big fan, but even in the one PL season where he played a lot of games (22/23) he only started something like 14 out of 36.

We’re almost at a stage now – plus Keith and his coaching team are learning fast – where we should be able to select the formation and the players to support a specific game plan. It’s therefore possible (next season, for example) to decide, against a specific opposition, that is all about individual players who can progress the ball directly, so play Dasilva and/or Milambo tactically to achieve that.

These tactical options in style of play make it that no outfield player gets to play every game.

 

[Argus]

What are you fearing?

lack of depth in midfield

 

[Argus]

Why? What is likely to happen?

Worse results than if we had

 

[WARFIELD BEE]

We’re almost at a stage now – plus Keith and his coaching team are learning fast – where we should be able to select the formation and the players to support a specific game plan. It’s therefore possible (next season, for example) to decide, against a specific opposition, that is all about individual players who can progress the ball directly, so play Dasilva and/or Milambo tactically to achieve that.

These tactical options in style of play make it that no outfield player gets to play every game.

I think it's too early to count on JDS and Milambo still a long road ahead IMO.

 

[SH]

We’re almost at a stage now – plus Keith and his coaching team are learning fast – where we should be able to select the formation and the players to support a specific game plan. It’s therefore possible (next season, for example) to decide, against a specific opposition, that is all about individual players who can progress the ball directly, so play Dasilva and/or Milambo tactically to achieve that.

These tactical options in style of play make it that no outfield player gets to play every game.

I get the “horse for courses” argument but against that I’d say you need a fulcrum, a main man. I know it’s preposterous but if I could ask Santa for one thing to finish my life of watching the Bees it would be to see a peak Gascoigne, Eriksen type playmaker in our stripes… after everything else we’ve witnessed, why not?

 

[Les Beeavinu]

I get the “horse for courses” argument but against that I’d say you need a fulcrum, a main man. I know it’s preposterous but if I could ask Santa for one thing to finish my life of watching the Bees it would be to see a peak Gascoigne, Eriksen type playmaker in our stripes… after everything else we’ve witnessed, why not?

That's probably Romelle Donovan who will also be the first Brentford player to play in goal for England.

 

[Albee]

Quite a bit of noise on Twitter from Coventry fans that Rudoni is coming. Onyeka going the other way plus cash.

 

[Invipai]

Would be extremely surprised if Cov would allow that given their position.

 

[TOXIC BEE]

Quite a bit of noise on Twitter from Coventry fans that Rudoni is coming. Onyeka going the other way plus cash.

Would somewhat make sense, pretty well stocked on defensive midfielders but a bit light on attacking / creative options with current injuries. Only issue is he probably finds himself quite far down the pecking order when Carvalho and Milambo are back next season. Imagine if we were to bring a midfielder in, and doubt we will, it would be a loan.

 

[gbems92]

Quite a bit of noise on Twitter from Coventry fans that Rudoni is coming. Onyeka going the other way plus cash.

Wasn't in their squad last game...

 

[Bumbling fool]

If you search rudoni Onyeka on twitter it's a lot of unsourced rumors and a lot of incredulous cov fans. Someone has noted though that coventrys squad is now full, so any more incomings would require an outgoing...

 

[TadB]

His name is Josh Dasilva.

Magic Mushroom Time

 

[cliffbee]

Can't say I'm surprised or disappointed that Cancellieri deal was a non starter. Don't expect anyone else in and the only outs seem likely to be Pinnock, as long as Ajer won't be out for long, and Onyeka - neither of whom seem likely to start any league games for us.

 

[magicbees]

lack of depth in midfield

Agree, but it's also the quality of back up. Need at least 2 in summer as I can't see Frank, Henderson and Jensen being here in the new season.

 

[Thebees11]

Agree, but it's also the quality of back up. Need at least 2 in summer as I can't see Frank, Henderson and Jensen being here in the new season.

Think a midfielder was a must in January given that we’ve been playing a midfield 4 recently with only one back up mid on the bench and now with Mikel injured ( don’t know the extent) we are very light in that position now

 

[Bigbee]

Think a midfielder was a must in January given that we’ve been playing a midfield 4 recently with only one back up mid on the bench and now with Mikel injured ( don’t know the extent) we are very light in that position now

we still need a creative back up for Dams now, but with Fabs and Antonio to come back next season they might hold out ?

 

[magicbees]

Think a midfielder was a must in January given that we’ve been playing a midfield 4 recently with only one back up mid on the bench and now with Mikel injured ( don’t know the extent) we are very light in that position now

Totally Agree

 

[jlove]

Think a midfielder was a must in January given that we’ve been playing a midfield 4 recently with only one back up mid on the bench and now with Mikel injured ( don’t know the extent) we are very light in that position now

The only midfield position we’ve not really go a back-up for is a №6. Janelt’s doing a storming job there but there’s a need for an understudy, at least.

It won’t happen this window, though.

 

[Bumbling fool]

The only midfield position we’ve not really go a back-up for is a №6. Janelt’s doing a storming job there but there’s a need for an understudy, at least.

It won’t happen this window, though.

I think hendo is more like for like coming for Janelt than he is for Yarmo. Maybe a young Jordan Henderson was more Yarmo like but at Brentford I think both are rood for leadership, discipline, organisation, deep playmaking and work rate but are lacking a bit in pace, tenacity and sheer ground coverage compared to Yarmo. I think it's Yarmo who needs the understudy

 

[Beecareful]

There’s clearly a potential vacancy for a ‘proper’ №6, defensive midfielder in the grand scheme of things but… we know they’re very, very difficult to find. We never had one before Nørgaard and, at present without Onyeka, we have Janelt (not bad), with Yarmolyuk and Henderson, neither are ‘true’ 6’s.

I very much doubt we’ll sign one this window but I’d be quite certain there’s a list and July may see a recruit.

Regarding attacking midfielders, there’s so many different types but it’s the Dasilva (ball-carrying, dribbling) type we’re short of, bearing in mind we’ve got two young long-term injuries in stock.

Nobody suggests giving Hickey a run at 6? His former manager in Scotland thought his future would be in midfield.

 

[Banana]

Slipped through our fingers yet again


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[jlove]

I think hendo is more like for like coming for Janelt than he is for Yarmo. Maybe a young Jordan Henderson was more Yarmo like but at Brentford I think both are rood for leadership, discipline, organisation, deep playmaking and work rate but are lacking a bit in pace, tenacity and sheer ground coverage compared to Yarmo. I think it's Yarmo who needs the understudy

He may be more likely given our current squad but he’s not a №6, in the Nørgaard sense. Those players are very difficult to find, as we saw when Christian joined as we’d never had one before. We’ve got Konak in the development pipeline but IMHO we’ve got a space there to fill.

@Beecareful I doubt a passing mention by a former coach some years ago holds much sway with our current coaches!

 

[Bigbee]

Slipped through our fingers yet again


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FFS Phil ! Another one gets passed us , what are you doing !!!!! ?????

 

[Bumbling fool]

He may be more likely given our current squad but he’s not a №6, in the Nørgaard sense. Those players are very difficult to find, as we saw when Christian joined as we’d never had one before. We’ve got Konak in the development pipeline but IMHO we’ve got a space there to fill.

I think the days of a clean distinction where 6s win the ball and make safe passes and the occasional diags while 8s progress the ball and keep things ticking are over. Modern 6s need to break lines with their passes, modern 8s need to win the ball higher up the pitch and cover more ground, defensive and attacking responsibilities are more diffuse in general. Especially since most teams now play a double pivot rather than an anchor man behind 2 8s

 

[jlove]

I think the days of a clean distinction where 6s win the ball and make safe passes and the occasional diags while 8s progress the ball and keep things ticking are over. Modern 6s need to break lines with their passes, modern 8s need to win the ball higher up the pitch and cover more ground, defensive and attacking responsibilities are more diffuse in general. Especially since most teams now play a double pivot rather than an anchor man behind 2 8s

Very true… so, like Nørgaard.

 

[Thebees11]

we still need a creative back up for Dams now, but with Fabs and Antonio to come back next season they might hold out ?

Even a loan player like Harvey Elliott for example would be good, just to have some creativity in the squad to the end of the season

 

[jbee]

Even a loan player like Harvey Elliott for example would be good, just to have some creativity in the squad to the end of the season

He can't play for another English club can he?

 

[Thebees11]

He can't play for another English club can he?

Three in one season I believe but could be wrong

 

[kingwood bee]

Three in one season I believe but could be wrong

You believe right only two English clubs

 

[Gee Bee]

He can't play for another English club can he?

No, he can only play for Liverpool again as he’s already played for them and Villa this season.

 

[Jay Bee]

Three in one season I believe but could be wrong

You can be registered with three but only play for two.

The other route out is to go and play for a team in a "summer league".

 

[damsgard.szn]

wouldn’t mind rudoni at all, good player

 

[Wouldbee]

Raheem Sterling released by Chelsea. Not for us in my view but talk about a fall from grace. Should do something for someone somewhere.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Raheem Sterling released by Chelsea. Not for us in my view but talk about a fall from grace. Should do something for someone somewhere.

Ooh, will Forest sign him?

 

[Oceanbee]

Slipped through our fingers yet again


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Bannan might have been useful for us back in the Championship some 6, 7, 8, years ago - would have been selected over McEachran.
He was a very creative player.

If he plays well for Millwall, and they continue to push for the play-off places, who knows next season we may see Bannan performing in the PL.

We can judge whether he’s still up to it then.

He deserves respect for having stuck with Wednesday so long, and obviously no point in staying with them, as they soon will be League 1.

 

[Beecareful]

His name is Josh Dasilva.

if only....

 

[cd1994]

Raheem Sterling released by Chelsea. Not for us in my view but talk about a fall from grace. Should do something for someone somewhere.

He wants to stay in London apparently....

 

[Kingston Bee]

He wants to stay in London apparently....

Charlton are looking for players to avoid relegation....