Igor Thiago

Igor Thiago

Such an easy target for doom and gloom. Only time will tell - he's just been injured and by all accounts, is playing well overall, simply not scoring. But no one sees the overall game and instead points to say that this player hasn't scored in a bit, what a waste of money. Maybe if there was an analysis about why someone though he will not translate with examples, but I just see the low hanging fruit being plucked.
 

Igor Thiago

With Ivan moving on, it’s obvious that the comparison will be made. Personally, I think the guy will be a bit of a ‘rough diamond’ who will need a period of development from Thomas and the coaching staff.

Strikers also need team mates around them to give them the opportunities to score. Hopefully, he will get those opportunities and establish himself as an important member of the squad.

I also think that our recruitment team has done extremely well to find someone with similar attributes to Ivan and have managed to sign him under the noses of our rivals and having a player of this type also means that we don’t have to drastically change the way that the team plays and can augment our striking capabilities.

I have said this before, comparing the amount paid for a player and what they achieve is most often a waste of time. Is he going to be six times better than Ivan? How well was Ivan doing when he was 22 when he was playing at a lower level on loan at Scunthorpe and Wigan? We will have to wait and see and I’m sure our recruitment team would have seriously studied Thiago’s ability whereas we don’t know how in depth Mr Radzinski’s analysis is. He’s entitled to his opinion, though, just like everyone of us.
 

Igor Thiago

ChrisSmith1992 said:
Well if Thomas Radzinsky has said that, then we’re screwed ? honestly, who gives a sh*t what he thinks?
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Backing up that other intellectual heavyweight recently quoted...the guy that managed Stoke in 2005 and hasn't had a job in football for 15 years.

Sportswitness have run three weird negative stories about this guy over the last month, all translated from Belgian/Dutch sources. Is there nothing else to talk about in the low countries?
 

Igor Thiago

He’s 22 years old, so a lot to learn but young enough to learn it. Third-highest league scorer in Belgium; number 2 in xG/90 (0.93); ranked 31st in WhoScored ratings.

There’s clearly members of the Dutch-speaking media who don’t like him.
 

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JANORAK said:
Er, who’s Thomas Radzinsky?
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Even though first name is spelt differently (perhaps for English audience), conceivable it could be the ex Fulham and Everton striker He was sporting director at another Belgian club called Lierse
 

Igor Thiago

Jay Bee said:
Sportswitness have run three weird negative stories about this guy over the last month, all translated from Belgian/Dutch sources. Is there nothing else to talk about in the low countries?
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You’d think so, wouldn’t you? Verstappen Jnr is strapped back into his rocket, and home growns are to the fore in the cycling Spring Classics.
 

Igor Thiago

It's clear he's been signed to be an Ivan Toney within the next 3-5 years, but he wont be immediately (as few are). Our most important player next season will be Bryan Mbeumo.

Another thing that will happen is we will preference out and out pace in some games with a front 3 of Schade Wissa Mbeumo and Thiago would be the sub option/ plan B. It's so clear Thomas would rather play with pace but due to injuries we've not had the opportunity to yet. So please, let's all be patient, let's not say Phil Giles is sh*t if Thiago doesn't score 20 goals next season and starts every game.
 

Igor Thiago

upnorthbee said:
It's clear he's been signed to be an Ivan Toney within the next 3-5 years, but he wont be immediately (as few are). Our most important player next season will be Bryan Mbeumo.

Another thing that will happen is we will preference out and out pace in some games with a front 3 of Schade Wissa Mbeumo and Thiago would be the sub option/ plan B. It's so clear Thomas would rather play with pace but due to injuries we've not had the opportunity to yet. So please, let's all be patient, let's not say Phil Giles is sh*t if Thiago doesn't score 20 goals next season and starts every game.
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3-5 years at 37m! I certainly hope not.

No way have we spent that amount of money for somebody to develop within 5 years.

He will, as you say, take time and we should be patient.
 
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Igor Thiago

Jay Bee said:
Backing up that other intellectual heavyweight recently quoted...the guy that managed Stoke in 2005 and hasn't had a job in football for 15 years.

Sportswitness have run three weird negative stories about this guy over the last month, all translated from Belgian/Dutch sources. Is there nothing else to talk about in the low countries?
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The thing is, unless he scores a hat trick on his debut, he’ll be labelled a failure straight away and compared to Toney. Just look at how Flekken started compared to Raya. Granted, some of the goals were stinkers, but if you’re starting off on a negative tone after 1-2 games, it’s not exactly helpful is it.
 

Igor Thiago

lincolnbee said:
Getting absolutely hammered here

sportwitness.co.uk

Big-money Brentford arrival slated - Insistence Bees may end up regretting quick-fire move

Brentford may end up regretting their decision to spend big on Club Brugge striker Igor Thiago, as he’ll never be good enough for the Premier League. That’s at least according to Thomas Radzinski, who is convinced the striker won’t be up to the mark once he arrives in England. Brentford...
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Oh dear. Just taxiing at LHR en route to watch him play this evening (combined with 48hrs in the office in Gent). If I had known that I wouldn’t have bothered. Has anyone tipped Phil Giles off?
 

Igor Thiago

Brentford77 said:
Oh dear. Just taxiing at LHR en route to watch him play this evening (combined with 48hrs in the office in Gent). If I had known that I wouldn’t have bothered. Has anyone tipped Phil Giles off?
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Indeed. Whose judgement do I have more faith in - MB and PG or some throbber who played for Fulham?
 

Igor Thiago

brighton bee said:
The worrying thing is I’m not sure I do “trust the system” any more. Big summer ahead, and we also really need this one to land.
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So after 15 years of continuous progress you've decided the system doesn't work anymore because of one mediocre season with a host of mitigating factors?

How quickly it all turns.
 

Igor Thiago

OK it's one person's opinion, so what. Our strategy for targeting and developing young players over the last 10 years has been proved to be very successful. Don't think anyone can pass comment on how successful he will be until we see him play over a reasonable period of time in the PL. Would I trust a process that has consistently produced good results over a prolonged period or 1 article from someone who has come out of nowhere. Not sure why he felt the need to write this but imo anyone of any substance would wait and see how he gets on. Maybe he has a disliking of all that is Brentford.
 

Igor Thiago

ChrisSmith1992 said:
The thing is, unless he scores a hat trick on his debut, he’ll be labelled a failure straight away and compared to Toney. Just look at how Flekken started compared to Raya. Granted, some of the goals were stinkers, but if you’re starting off on a negative tone after 1-2 games, it’s not exactly helpful is it.
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The mob will be out to get him if he doesn't score in his first 3 games. It's pathetic how some are already being negative about this.
 

Igor Thiago

upnorthbee said:
It's clear he's been signed to be an Ivan Toney within the next 3-5 years, but he wont be immediately (as few are). Our most important player next season will be Bryan Mbeumo.

Another thing that will happen is we will preference out and out pace in some games with a front 3 of Schade Wissa Mbeumo and Thiago would be the sub option/ plan B. It's so clear Thomas would rather play with pace but due to injuries we've not had the opportunity to yet. So please, let's all be patient, let's not say Phil Giles is sh*t if Thiago doesn't score 20 goals next season and starts every game.
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Dont disagree, but good luck with finding patience among us. There is very little bedding in time for players at this level. They all need it. We know that. But ... .
 

Igor Thiago

LingfieldBee said:
The mob will be out to get him if he doesn't score in his first 3 games. It's pathetic how some are already being negative about this.
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If our usual approach is followed, he's unlikely to play much in the first month or so. I'd also note that Nusa hasn't torn down many trees since January but of course the narrative there is that we have missed out on one of the best talents in Europe through our incompetence.
 

Igor Thiago

Les Beeavinu said:
If our usual approach is followed, he's unlikely to play much in the first month or so. I'd also note that Nusa hasn't torn down many trees since January but of course the narrative there is that we have missed out on one of the best talents in Europe through our incompetence.
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Big IF we have Schade, KLP, Bryan and Wissa there is no need to rush Thiago into the starting line up. So fingers crossed can bed him in overtime rather than having to throw him in.
 

Igor Thiago

upnorthbee said:
Another thing that will happen is we will preference out and out pace in some games with a front 3 of Schade Wissa Mbeumo and Thiago would be the sub option/ plan B. It's so clear Thomas would rather play with pace but due to injuries we've not had the opportunity to yet. So please, let's all be patient, let's not say Phil Giles is sh*t if Thiago doesn't score 20 goals next season and starts every game.
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Thiago is reputed to be one of the quickest players in the Juliper League…
 

Igor Thiago

No one can convince me that our signing of him for that size fee has had nothing to do with the Nusa situation.
 

Igor Thiago

LingfieldBee said:
Big IF we have Schade, KLP, Bryan and Wissa there is no need to rush Thiago into the starting line up. So fingers crossed can bed him in overtime rather than having to throw him in.
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Once he recovers from his 3 months out initiation injury of course!
 

Igor Thiago

Les Beeavinu said:
If our usual approach is followed, he's unlikely to play much in the first month or so. I'd also note that Nusa hasn't torn down many trees since January but of course the narrative there is that we have missed out on one of the best talents in Europe through our incompetence.
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Incompetence? It is important that a club of our size consider the resale value that a new signing is likely to command. Someone who has a possible long term problem may be difficult to sell when the time come. We are not in a position to gamble on such matters. Better be safe than sorry,
 

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TadB said:
Incompetence? It is important that a club of our size consider the resale value that a new signing is likely to command. Someone who has a possible long term problem may be difficult to sell when the time come. We are not in a position to gamble on such matters. Better be safe than sorry,
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Yeh but no one trusts our medical team. They probably broke him during his medical.
 

Igor Thiago

ianbee said:
Our record over the past few years buying strikers has been pretty good I would say.
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It’s been outstanding and we must be the envy of other clubs with our ROI on attacking players

Andre Gray, Hogan, Jota, Maupay, Watkins, Benrahma and Forss all picked up for between £500K and £2.5M and collectively circa £10M and sold for circa £80M?

Add Toney and Mbeumo who must be worth in excess of £100M between them easily who we bought for less than £15M with add ons I’d say our transfer dealings are unbelievable for a club out size and with our budgets.
 

Igor Thiago

Bigbee said:
maybe some thing in this
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If we sign Nusa in the summer for a lower fee than expected then we’ll have negotiated a good deal. Any idea that there’s some sort of cash-back from a separate player sale contract is just fiction…
 

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sonofabee said:
It’s been outstanding and we must be the envy of other clubs with our ROI on attacking players

Andre Gray, Hogan, Jota, Maupay, Watkins, Benrahma and Forss all picked up for between £500K and £2.5M and collectively circa £10M and sold for circa £80M?

Add Toney and Mbeumo who must be worth in excess of £100M between them easily who we bought for less than £15M with add ons I’d say our transfer dealings are unbelievable for a club out size and with our budgets.
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Way way way too much sense for one post ???
 

Igor Thiago

Off the face of it it does look like we overpaid a lot, especially when we could’ve had Nusa for the same price, but anyone writing him off before he’s kicked a ball is being ridiculous. He’s only 22, the last thing he needs replacing Toney is people getting on his back from the off. The club wouldn’t spend £31m on a player if they didn’t see genuine quality and potential there.
 

Igor Thiago

sonofabee said:
It’s been outstanding and we must be the envy of other clubs with our ROI on attacking players

Andre Gray, Hogan, Jota, Maupay, Watkins, Benrahma and Forss all picked up for between £500K and £2.5M and collectively circa £10M and sold for circa £80M?

Add Toney and Mbeumo who must be worth in excess of £100M between them easily who we bought for less than £15M with add ons I’d say our transfer dealings are unbelievable for a club out size and with our budgets.
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Yep plus Big Nick and the goal against Forest Hoffman character.
 

Igor Thiago

Frothybaby said:
Dont disagree, but good luck with finding patience among us. There is very little bedding in time for players at this level. They all need it. We know that. But ... .
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:wave:
It’s not that hard ?‍♂️
 

Igor Thiago

Beelated said:
Starts for Brugge tonight against PAOK Salonika (k.o. 8:00pm - on Discovery+/TNT)
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Well, he'd better score a couple tonight, or I'm not renewing my ST for next season's relegation struggle.
 
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