Staying at Current Club Ivan Toney

[Banana]

How much would we accept if you said a silly amount say 50 or 60 ?

I don't know!

 

[Cwakley95]

Wrong, many clubs will pay 50

Like who? ?

 

[SmiffyBee]

Like who? ?

Barcelona.

 

[SmiffyBee]

Like who? ?

And Chelsea 2004.

 

[magicbees]

He is worth more to us than 40 million, you know we wouldn't get to spend 40 million on a replacement.

 

[SH]

Like who? ?

Newcastle for a start. They’ve failed with a £30m bid for an untried kid in Ekitike and desperately need a CF. Luckily, Phil will tell them it’s £70m ?

 

[Untouchable]

Newcastle for a start. They’ve failed with a £30m bid for an untried kid in Ekitike and desperately need a CF. Luckily, Phil will tell them it’s £70m ?

It’s £50m for 17 Premier League clubs and:

£75m for Newcastle - Saudi Arabia funding premium

£150m for Leeds. The ***** can **** off.

 

[Gparsfan]

I'd probably accept 50 million tbh, he's been very good for us but truth be told, I'm not sure he's as good, as say Raya, Norgaard and Henry...

Take 50, give PG 30 and I have faith we'd get a replacement.

 

[Wouldbee]

There is no way he’s going

 

[BuzzingBee95]

A bit surprised to see some prepared to sell. Yes, an injection of 50 plus would be welcomed to bolster our depth. But whilst we’ve been a model club in selling on and replacing with better, this is different. Proven Goal scorers at this level are rare and cost tons. Double figures last season, that’s not to be overlooked. Wouldn’t sell him at any price, the jeopardy is just too great right now

 

[sonofabee]

Brentford want at least £40m for Man Utd and Newcastle target Ivan Toney

Toney is one of a number of strikers just below the top tier of established internationals who have had huge price tags applied to them this summer

inews.co.uk

We want £40 mil no offers yet

Nathan Ake, a very ordinary cover centre back cost £41M, we can expect to ask for more for a proven goal scorer.
Let’s start an auction if Man U, Leeds, West Ham and Newcastle are all interested. I reckon we could get between £50- 60M if we decide to sell, personally I wouldn’t sell now

 

[magicbees]

I'd probably accept 50 million tbh, he's been very good for us but truth be told, I'm not sure he's as good, as say Raya, Norgaard and Henry...

Take 50, give PG 30 and I have faith we'd get a replacement.

Can you see us spending 30 million on one player. Who do you suggest.

 

[Mr Cynical]

A bit surprised to see some prepared to sell. Yes, an injection of 50 plus would be welcomed to bolster our depth. But whilst we’ve been a model club in selling on and replacing with better, this is different. Proven Goal scorers at this level are rare and cost tons. Double figures last season, that’s not to be overlooked. Wouldn’t sell him at any price, the jeopardy is just too great right now

It's just the Brentford way. Not sure how much more development there is in him and he's at his most valuable at the moment. Sell at peak value if we can, that's the mantra. There's plenty of goals in the squad if we can get the creative side working like we did with CE in the side. I don't think we'd replace like for like, I think we'd tweak the way we play and that may well work out to be a positive.. Having said all that, I don't think anyone will pay what we want which is likely to be v high...

 

[larrysigny]

Let’s start an auction if Man U, Leeds, West Ham and Newcastle are all interested. I reckon we could get between £50- 60M if we decide to sell, personally I wouldn’t sell now

But to the best of anyone's knowledge (on here at least) none of them ARE interested.

 

[aslan]

What’s the point of this thread. Brentford won’t accept £30m and no club is paying £40m+.

As has already been pointed out, in recent years teams have paid 50m a piece for WanBissaka and Ben White, 75m+ for Lukaku (twice!), Pepe 70m and 80m for that donkey Maguire.
Forget what you, or anyone else think he's worth; we'd be mental to let him go for any less than 50m.

 

[wibs]

I dont think you can underestimate the effect he has on the team just by being an outball. Plus of course his decisive work. He also seems someone the players look up to, he has that swag that builds confidence.

I don't think we should sell him just before the season starts, it feels like we would need to change our style of playing.

 

[W5BeesFan]

As has already been pointed out, in recent years teams have paid 50m a piece for WanBissaka and Ben White, 75m+ for Lukaku (twice!), Pepe 70m and 80m for that donkey Maguire.
Forget what you, or anyone else think he's worth; we'd be mental to let him go for any less than 50m.

The Independent stating that Brentford want £40m for Toney. Not sure where they got that from but it seems £10m shy of his market value to.me.

 

[readingbee]

The Independent stating that Brentford want £40m for Toney. Not sure where they got that from but it seems £10m shy of his market value to.me.

There all making it up as they go along.

 

[grepo]

Newcastle for a start. They’ve failed with a £30m bid for an untried kid in Ekitike and desperately need a CF. Luckily, Phil will tell them it’s £70m ?

No. For that bunch no less than 1 billion.

 

[Hippobee]

It's just the Brentford way. Not sure how much more development there is in him and he's at his most valuable at the moment. Sell at peak value if we can, that's the mantra. There's plenty of goals in the squad if we can get the creative side working like we did with CE in the side. I don't think we'd replace like for like, I think we'd tweak the way we play and that may well work out to be a positive.. Having said all that, I don't think anyone will pay what we want which is likely to be v high...

Totally disagree. Peak value will be when he scores 20 next season, or is well on the way to doing so in January. 5 goals from open play? Definitely room for development. And the mantra is have the replacement lined up. Pretty sure we don't.

 

[fencer/bee]

I bet Barry fry wangled a decent sell on clause. So we want something north of 40m

 

[StevieSteve]

The Independent stating that Brentford want £40m for Toney. Not sure where they got that from but it seems £10m shy of his market value to.me.

It doesn't say that.

Journo reckons that a bid would need to be around £40m for us to consider any bid. He's not basing that on an in-depth chat with PG so it's just a guess.

 

[fencer/bee]

I can feel a f*** Brentford coming soon.

 

[Kingston Bee]

Taking the money is the easy bit, but as each day goes by it will prove harder to bring in any type of replacement who would need to fit in immediately, and hit the ground running. Why would the Dofs put all the hard work they have put into this window at risk by selling IT, and significantly increasing the odds of getting relegated and everything that goes with that. Suggest we close this thread unless something concrete happens. IMO would be suicide to even think about selling Toney at this stage, but what do I know.

 

[tinman]

Another point to consider is that if IT was sold for north of £40 selling clubs will increase the money will be asking for players we are interested in

 

[cbushy]

Like many others, surely it was always our intention to bring him in, trade him up and sell at a big profit. I think he is very very good, but as an asset, no better than many of the others we have sold on Benrahma Watkins etc etc.

like CE, if he goes we shoul wish him well and hope when he comes back to play against us we don’t concede a penalty.

we have more than enough good cover. Trust in the system and let them go when we are ready.

chris B

 

[mhead bee]

Like who? ?

You list the clubs who would not offer 50m and I will return to you a list of clubs we won’t be talking to.

A bit surprised to see some prepared to sell. Yes, an injection of 50 plus would be welcomed to bolster our depth. But whilst we’ve been a model club in selling on and replacing with better, this is different. Proven Goal scorers at this level are rare and cost tons. Double figures last season, that’s not to be overlooked. Wouldn’t sell him at any price, the jeopardy is just too great right now

IT was a proven lg 1 scorer before we bought him, plenty more pebbles on the beach,

I dont think you can underestimate the effect he has on the team just by being an outball. Plus of course his decisive work. He also seems someone the players look up to, he has that swag that builds confidence.

I don't think we should sell him just before the season starts, it feels like we would need to change our style of playing.

Again, all the reasons bigger clubs are I interested

Another point to consider is that if IT was sold for north of £40 selling clubs will increase the money will be asking for players we are interested in

A problem we have dealt with for over a decade. It wont stop the world turning though,

 

[North London Bee]

I can’t think of a single EFL player who could potentially replace him. Hopefully we have a decent list of foreign strikers who are gettable and could do the job if need be.

 

['Ayes B]

Can we change 'OUTGOING SPECULATION' to 'OUTGOING CLICKBAIT' as their appears to be no substance to either the story or the alleged fee

 

[Nada Bee]

Meh. I like Toney. He got us up. But I felt worse when Said, Watkins and Maupay left. (If he does)

Make no mistake we can improve. But then again, we can do worse. But I trust the DoFs to spend the money wisely.

 

[CTBee]

Meh. I like Toney. He got us up. But I felt worse when Said, Watkins and Maupay left. (If he does)

Make no mistake we can improve. But then again, we can do worse. But I trust the DoFs to spend the money wisely.

You do realise that it's very unlikely that Ivan is leaving in this window?

 

[Lionel Bart-At]

Meh. I like Toney. He got us up. But I felt worse when Said, Watkins and Maupay left. (If he does)

Make no mistake we can improve. But then again, we can do worse. But I trust the DoFs to spend the money wisely.

I agree. Tell me we are losing Norgaard or Raya or Pinnock and I will become very sad. Toney we would miss for a short while, but the time would be right to kick on and find someone with the prospect of developing beyond Ivan's ceiling. Or adapt existing players, much like we did with Ollie.

 

[Nada Bee]

You do realise that it's very unlikely that Ivan is leaving in this window?

I do. But just discussing.

 

[larrysigny]

 

[Lionel Bart-At]

Hope you’ve got factor 80 on if you’ve fallen asleep in the sun.

 

[nick logan]

There is no way he’s going

i think and hope you are right

 

[larrysigny]

Hope you’ve got factor 80 on if you’ve fallen asleep in the sun.

What an un-British suggestion! We just keep a stiff (perspiration soaked) upper lip.
Remember we survived the Blitz, Battle of Britain, Dunkirk, etc etc etc......plus Tony Blair and Boris. A little bit of weather is just a normal talking point -no more.

 

[fencer/bee]

What an un-British suggestion! We just keep a stiff (perspiration soaked) upper lip.
Remember we survived the Blitz, Battle of Britain, Dunkirk, etc etc etc......plus Tony Blair and Boris. A little bit of weather is just a normal talking point -no more.

And Ron Noades

 

[HerefordB]

If the fee is right, show him the money and he'll be off like a rocket!
Pro footballers are a commodity to trade. That's just how it is.

 

[JANORAK]

Brilliant that this has now reached 8 pages, simply because MU have signed a midget centre back.
Don’t you just love summer?

 

[abeeforever]

A bit surprised to see some prepared to sell. Yes, an injection of 50 plus would be welcomed to bolster our depth. But whilst we’ve been a model club in selling on and replacing with better, this is different. Proven Goal scorers at this level are rare and cost tons. Double figures last season, that’s not to be overlooked. Wouldn’t sell him at any price, the jeopardy is just too great right now

No different to when we sold Hogan, Grey, Maupay, Watkins, Benrahma, We have to survive By Selling/Buying, That is our great strength, Much to the annoyance of most other clubs, It also got us to where we are to day, I fully trust how our club works and long may it continue. ? ?

 

[aawharris]

It's just the Brentford way. Not sure how much more development there is in him and he's at his most valuable at the moment. Sell at peak value if we can, that's the mantra. There's plenty of goals in the squad if we can get the creative side working like we did with CE in the side. I don't think we'd replace like for like, I think we'd tweak the way we play and that may well work out to be a positive.. Having said all that, I don't think anyone will pay what we want which is likely to be v high...

Thing is, peak value doesnt matter to those with bottomless pockets, they will happily buy a 33, 34 year old for 50 million as long as they are doing the business, if he scores 15 this season, somebody will pay 50 million next off season

 

[Beecareful]

I agree. Tell me we are losing Norgaard or Raya or Pinnock and I will become very sad. Toney we would miss for a short while, but the time would be right to kick on and find someone with the prospect of developing beyond Ivan's ceiling. Or adapt existing players, much like we did with Ollie.

far better to buy before we sell.

 

[davewfilms]

Seems a good time to cash in on toney and if we can get 40 million then happy days.

 

[shouldbee]

if the club accepts an offer and he goes Phil G will have an upgrade lined up for sure.......happy daze !

 

[Boston Bee]

far better to buy before we sell.

This. We can’t go looking for a replacement now, as other clubs would smell the desperation a mile off.

Until his replacement is already here we simply cannot sell.

 

[Beecareful]

Seems a good time to cash in on toney and if we can get 40 million then happy days.

given that Man City have sold two top mid-twenties strikers/forwards for + - £50m each makes talk of Our man being worth that a dream.

 

[BURFORD BEE]

If we sell we’re batshit crazy. End of!

 

[ziggys_human]

according to an article i just skimmed through, IT signing for dirty leeds would be a step up
astonishing delusions!

 

[hairman]

far better to buy before we sell.

Isn't that what we've been doing for years now? I reckon his replacement could already have been signed.