James Tarkowski -

[homerbees]

Ask me again after the January transfer window. If we've still got James Wilson, George Elokobi and Carl Winchester I'll start believing!

Pleased to hear James Wilson is doing well again. Looked a class act for us in league 2 and has been a bit unfortunate since then, following a stop/start period with injuries.

He's no tarky, but he's alright..

 

[Isleworth_Bee]

10 unbeaten including 4 draws and a JPT penalties win.

I wouldn't rule it out. It's years since I've seen Latics go a goal down and not been bothered because I've been sure they'd go on to win.

Ask me again after the January transfer window. If we've still got James Wilson, George Elokobi and Carl Winchester I'll start believing!

Elokobi is a great signing for that level.

 

[opinions5u]

Elokobi is a great signing for that level.

Fans paying part of his wages. Only on a 12 month contract. He's injured too lol.

 

[Isleworth_Bee]

Fans paying part of his wages. Only on a 12 month contract. He's injured too lol.

Maybe not then..........

 

[opinions5u]

Maybe not then..........

He is green ticked on Twitter. This is big time!

 

[Isleworth_Bee]

He is green ticked on Twitter. This is big time!

I take it that is a good thing? Not in with all this Twitter hype

 

[opinions5u]

I take it that is a good thing? Not in with all this Twitter hype

It means other interwebs addicts have heard of him.

 

[Isleworth_Bee]

It means other interwebs addicts have heard of him.

 

[shaun]

Is he suspended for Sheffield Wed now?

 

[Billy Hunt]

Is he suspended for Sheffield Wed now?

I believe so.

Time for Dean to shine...

 

[stanner]

I believe so.

Time for Dean to shine...

Tarkowski needs to keep his mouth shut and not talk himself into a booking. He got booked for splitting up Craig and one of theirs having a handbag bust up. He Needs to grow up .

 

[shouldbee]

Tarkowski needs to keep his mouth shut and not talk himself into a booking. He got booked for splitting up Craig and one of theirs having a handbag bust up. He Needs to grow up .

If he hadn't got his 5th booking today he may well have on Tuesday night and missed the Bolton Game.............Harlee can come in for one game

 

[NorthamptonBee]

If he hadn't got his 5th booking today he may well have on Tuesday night and missed the Bolton Game.............Harlee can come in for one game

Harlee says thanks.

 

[Ruislip_Rich]

Be more than one. Over to you H

 

[sonofabee]

Not sure why he got booked?

 

[TeddingtonBee]

Misses the Sheffield Wednesday game according to the Chronicle.

 

[Billy Hunt]

Not sure why he got booked?

He got involved when Craig and their no.4 had a 'disagreement' following a Wigan corner. Both were on the deck. Couldn't see exactly what occurred, but their no.4 was very cross indeed. :shrug:

Don't think he would have been booked but he seemed to have too much to say, after things had calmed down, for the ref's liking.

 

[Isleworth_Bee]

Tarkowski needs to keep his mouth shut and not talk himself into a booking. He got booked for splitting up Craig and one of theirs having a handbag bust up. He Needs to grow up .

Jeez hes a very young player and prob just sticking up for his mate. Cut the kid some slack. On no wait a minute we all need someone to s**g off for a week.

 

[harefield heckler]

you would expect to see Tony to do the same if roles reversed.Needs to tighten up his passing though.

 

[Isleworth_Bee]

you would expect to see Tony to do the same if roles reversed.Needs to tighten up his passing though.

Agree that his passing does go off the radar but i think its more when hes trying an outrageous pass which in a year or 2 im sure he will pull off with ease.

 

[Billy Hunt]

Not sure why he got booked?

He got involved when Craig and their no.4 had a 'disagreement' following a Wigan corner. Both were on the deck. Couldn't see exactly what occurred, but their no.4 was very cross indeed. :shrug:

Don't think he would have been booked but he seemed to have too much to say, after things had calmed down, for the ref's liking.

http://www.officialbfcpics.co.uk/1410180/1410180045

I think this is the incident that led to Craig and Tarkowski being booked. Lucky the ref. didn't see it...

 

[Isleworth_Bee]

http://www.officialbfcpics.co.uk/1410180/1410180045

I think this is the incident that led to Craig and Tarkowski being booked. Lucky the ref. didn't see it...

Good bit of man marking if you ask me.

 

[bees66]

http://www.officialbfcpics.co.uk/1410180/1410180045

I think this is the incident that led to Craig and Tarkowski being booked. Lucky the ref. didn't see it...

Lucky lucky lucky..

 

[Isleworth_Bee]

Lucky lucky lucky..

I would say well played sir! No pen and a clean sheet......... Job done.

 

[GP200]

Lucky lucky lucky..

................the list art of defending................

 

[Bigbee]

not playing tonight ,is he injured? I dont get on here much any more

 

[kendo]

Suspended

 

[Bill Benn]

With Dean and Craig keeping their places Saturday would like to see Tarks in mid field,too good to sit on the bench.

 

[wanderer paul]

With Dean and Craig keeping their places Saturday would like to see Tarks in mid field,too good to sit on the bench.

You'd have to drop Pritchard or Judge to accommodate him. Pushing JD further forward. I don't think it's wise to mess him around. Stick him on the bench and wait. If a change needs to be made, I'd like to see Toral in there instead of Pritchard for a game.

 

[Bangor Bee]

One thing that struck me when watching Tarkowski at Wigan was that he's not making any forward runs -- even Tony Craig was more adventurous. However, at Oldham that was a key feature of his game, and when I saw him play for them he reminded me of Des Walker in that respect. Presumably the fear is that he will give the ball away and expose the defence, but it's not that difficult to cover for a central defender who makes forward runs. I lived in Nottingham and used to watch Forest a lot. Each home game Walker made several forward runs and they regularly opened up the opposition. If he lost the ball, others had covered and they simply worked hard to defend -- it didn't seem a big problem. I think we're missing out on a useful aspect of his talent. Either way, though Harlee is a good player I think Tarks is a better one and would prefer to see him in the side.

 

[kevalutonbee]

One thing that struck me when watching Tarkowski at Wigan was that he's not making any forward runs -- even Tony Craig was more adventurous. However, at Oldham that was a key feature of his game, and when I saw him play for them he reminded me of Des Walker in that respect. Presumably the fear is that he will give the ball away and expose the defence, but it's not that difficult to cover for a central defender who makes forward runs. I lived in Nottingham and used to watch Forest a lot. Each home game Walker made several forward runs and they regularly opened up the opposition. If he lost the ball, others had covered and they simply worked hard to defend -- it didn't seem a big problem. I think we're missing out on a useful aspect of his talent. Either way, though Harlee is a good player I think Tarks is a better one and would prefer to see him in the side.

Perhaps he has been asked not to do it by the coaching staff?

 

[Invipai]

It's difficult....you don't want Harlee to feel there is no way in the side, but also Tarky is our best defender... It's a selection headache I'm glad I don't have to make!

 

[Bill Benn]

You'd have to drop Pritchard or Judge to accommodate him. Pushing JD further forward. I don't think it's wise to mess him around. Stick him on the bench and wait. If a change needs to be made, I'd like to see Toral in there instead of Pritchard for a game.

Wouldn't argue with any of that,regarding Toral and I would add Tebar I think they should both be ahead of Torms regarding coming on as sub.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

With Dean and Craig keeping their places Saturday

I certainly hope that's not going to be the case. Tarkowski plays when available which leaves one place available would always be my choice. I'd hate to think that the "Dean In" campaign results in one of the best defenders I've seen for many a long year sitting on the bench.

 

[hanworthbee]

You always play your best team no matter what so for that reason dean has to return to the bench.he needs to bide his time as anything could happen and then he'll be straight back in.

 

[Wooburn Bee]

Warbs motto is you play for the short. Harlee played and played well Tuesday so Tarks will be on bench Saturday. It's a long season and some natural rotation will ensure players stay fresh till end of season.

On subject of midfield I tend to agree that one of Toral or Tebar will come on for probably Pritchard on Saturday.

 

[shouldbee]

I certainly hope that's not going to be the case. Tarkowski plays when available which leaves one place available would always be my choice. I'd hate to think that the "Dean In" campaign results in one of the best defenders I've seen for many a long year sitting on the bench.

Absolutely spot on. I hope Warbs and David Weir make the correct decision and put Tarky back in for Bolton, tough on Harlee who is a good player but it's the way it is at this level.

 

[Bigbee]

Warbs motto is you play for the short. .

You dissing our Captain?

 

[sonofabee]

One thing that struck me when watching Tarkowski at Wigan was that he's not making any forward runs -- even Tony Craig was more adventurous. However, at Oldham that was a key feature of his game, and when I saw him play for them he reminded me of Des Walker in that respect. Presumably the fear is that he will give the ball away and expose the defence, but it's not that difficult to cover for a central defender who makes forward runs. I lived in Nottingham and used to watch Forest a lot. Each home game Walker made several forward runs and they regularly opened up the opposition. If he lost the ball, others had covered and they simply worked hard to defend -- it didn't seem a big problem. I think we're missing out on a useful aspect of his talent. Either way, though Harlee is a good player I think Tarks is a better one and would prefer to see him in the side.

If honest I was in drink so didn't pay as much attention as usual to individual performances at Wigan!

I think in virtually every other game Tarks has featured in it's been one of his massive strengths the way he picks the ball up, drops his shoulder and strolls past forwards and brings the ball out of defence with the oppo seemingly parting for him. (shouldn't that be Moses?)
I guess maybe we had done our homework and it was tactical?

 

[sonofabee]

You always play your best team no matter what so for that reason dean has to return to the bench.he needs to bide his time as anything could happen and then he'll be straight back in.

Totally disagree, Harlee put in a MOM performance when replacing arguably our best player who was left out due to his own shortcomings. Tarks needs to learn he is mortal and no individual is more important than the team so he starts on the bench.
For the record I think Tarks is the better player but for me I'd be very surprised if Harlee was dropped for him on Saturday and if he is I would take that as a sign that Harlee will definitely be off soon which would be a real shame.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Absolutely spot on. I hope Warbs and David Weir make the correct decision and put Tarky back in for Bolton, tough on Harlee who is a good player but it's the way it is at this level.

Dean could play instead of Craig - Dean shouldn't play instead of Tarks. IMO.

 

[Bill Benn]

I certainly hope that's not going to be the case. Tarkowski plays when available which leaves one place available would always be my choice. I'd hate to think that the "Dean In" campaign results in one of the best defenders I've seen for many a long year sitting on the bench.

Not a campaign I have been critical of Dean recently but to drop him after his performance Tuesday would not set the right example to the squad IMHO.

 

[wanderer paul]

Dean could play instead of Craig - Dean shouldn't play instead of Tarks. IMO.

Leaves us unbalanced IMO. Dean looks to come back on to his right foot when playing left side CB. It's a tough choice but for me HD & TC played well enough together to keep their places, no matter how good we believe Tarkowski is. It's his fault that a couple of bookings he picked up weren't for the right reasons.

 

[nick logan]

Dean could play instead of Craig - Dean shouldn't play instead of Tarks. IMO.

Why , Craig is captain and playing well. Both HD and JT play better alongside him too.

No way he will drop TC.

 

[Gee Bee]

Totally disagree, Harlee put in a MOM performance when replacing arguably our best player who was left out due to his own shortcomings. Tarks needs to learn he is mortal and no individual is more important than the team so he starts on the bench.
For the record I think Tarks is the better player but for me I'd be very surprised if Harlee was dropped for him on Saturday and if he is I would take that as a sign that Harlee will definitely be off soon which would be a real shame.

Tarks is a very good player, but has also been prone to mishaps and does pick up a lot of bookings for a reason. we are very lucky to have 3 CB's of such quality. Craig got sent off and then binded his time, the same may well happen to Tarks.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Why , Craig is captain and playing well. Both HD and JT play better alongside him too.

No way he will drop TC.

Leaves us unbalanced IMO. Dean looks to come back on to his right foot when playing left side CB. It's a tough choice but for me HD & TC played well enough together to keep their places, no matter how good we believe Tarkowski is. It's his fault that a couple of bookings he picked up weren't for the right reasons.

Perhaps I was clumsy in making the point. In my opinion, Tarkowski is always first choice centre back which leaves the decision on his partner between Dean and Craig. I wouldn't like to make that decision but I'm convinced that not playing Tarks would be a big mistake.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Totally disagree, Harlee put in a MOM performance when replacing arguably our best player who was left out due to his own shortcomings. Tarks needs to learn he is mortal and no individual is more important than the team so he starts on the bench.
For the record I think Tarks is the better player but for me I'd be very surprised if Harlee was dropped for him on Saturday and if he is I would take that as a sign that Harlee will definitely be off soon which would be a real shame.

Why does Tarkowski need to be taught a lesson?

 

[pompeybee]

Tough one. I'd always want to select Tarkowski, but I think I've voted for Dean as MoM the last two games I've seen him in. And I'd prefer to have Craig's experience than field Tarkowski and Dean together.

I'm not sure I can rationalise all those contradictions - fortunately I don't have to pick the team.

 

[PJ]

I certainly hope that's not going to be the case. Tarkowski plays when available which leaves one place available would always be my choice. I'd hate to think that the "Dean In" campaign results in one of the best defenders I've seen for many a long year sitting on the bench.

The thing is he made himself unavailable on Tues and HD put in a 10/10 performance. I wasnt at Boro but by all accounts HD wasnt at the races, hence back to the bench.

The players have to accept it's a squad game but there will be harsh looking decisions made at times. Seems to bring the best out of players when under pressure

 

[sonofabee]

Why does Tarkowski need to be taught a lesson?

Because if he continues to pick up regular bookings we are without him for longer periods and suffer. We will be even worse off if he doesn't learn and Harlee has left because he's been unfairly used as his understudy? You come across as intelligent man, do you think Tarks is so valuable we allow him to do as he pleases, break the rules, potentially disrupt team stability, affect results and who knows team morale without punishment?