Marcel Eger

Marcel Eger

beebopalula said:
This one caught us all on the hop. We are obviously conditioned to think in terms of potential signings from our Leagues but Uwe has brought a new dimension. I'm looking forward to a Norwegian midfield playmaker and at least one striker from Norway or Germany.
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K73 told us on 22nd June about a German fella.

"Aswell as Logan, Rosler is on the verge of signing a German player too who was also undergoing medical today. Didn't catch his name."
 

Marcel Eger

brighton bee said:
no it's about getting the most out of the wage budget-how often will both first choice centre backs be injured at the same time? Very rarely.
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There was a significant patch last season, for example, where the back four was a complete wreck. We only had one fit defender if I remember? If we are looking at promotion, we can't afford to go 2/3 matches wit this scenario.
Also, we need to make sure we always have at least 3 fit CB's - we always need one on the bench. It's not just about fitness, it's about form etc.

brighton bee said:
At the end of the day, if we have a choice between a 4th centre back, or adressing a more pressing part of the squad, I know what I would choose!
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Well I presume the choice isn't between getting a 4th centre back, or say, a striker. I can't see how anyone would consider that a wise move, and I'm sure that isn't what has happened.
 

Marcel Eger

Gotta say i'm really excited by this signing, the guy has played against some impressive teams and some great players in front of crowds between 24k and 50k

http://www.soccerway.com/matches/20...04-leverkusen/fc-st-pauli-von-1910-ev/958698/

The above shows he's played against teams like Bayer Leverkusen, Wolfsburg, Kaiserslautern
in front of 50k people, and Bayern Munich, all very big sides so i'm sure he will bring some great experience with him and could well be the leader on the pitch we've desperately needed.

Roll on the next signings, things are really looking up and I cant wait for Aug :sorted:
 

Marcel Eger

I said a while back we could do with signing an experienced partner for Karleigh who'll hold the ball up well when needed. Meaning we'd have Osborne and A Nother with Legge and Pim as immediate replacements if needed.

Interested to see if this guy fits the bill.

Captained a promotion winning side in 2010 and the Bundesliga is a strong division so I'm hopeful he'll be a good signing.
 

Marcel Eger

I'm not so sure about this influx of german blood to GP.
I was watching Alf Garnett a few evenings ago and he reckons yer actual germans can't think on the left side of there brain.
 

Marcel Eger

brighton bee said:
no it's about getting the most out of the wage budget-how often will both first choice centre backs be injured at the same time? Very rarely.

At the end of the day, if we have a choice between a 4th centre back, or adressing a more pressing part of the squad, I know what I would choose!
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But it's not an 'either or' situation. Uwe Rosler is well aware of the additions required to turn a midtable squad (and that's what he inherited because that's where we finished last season) into one better equipped to challenge at the top end of the table. Talks are continuing with identified targets including midfield players and strikers and it just so happens that the first two signings were back four because we reached agreement with them first. It could have been the other way around and it's simply happenstance.

UR is now happy with the goalkeeping and defence. Next steps are the midfield and strikers. He and Mark Warburton are involved in intense negotiations and meetings with players and agents and whilst I don't wish to give a definite date for further signings clubs are returning to training next week in most cases and those players that have been holding out and considering the offers put to them by clubs will not wish to be left too far behind in the fitness stakes once the pre-season's are under way. MW was on the phone to me last evening fine tuning the terms on the table for a player after having been called by the agent and as I have said we have offers in and negotiations continuing for a number of players and in competition with other clubs. I posted yesterday I think that if other clubs weren't competing for our targets then we'd all be wondering about the quality of our 'want' list. Shaleum Logan said in his Bees Player interview that he had other offers from clubs local to him in the north west but he had been sold that Brentford was the best move for his career. It takes time but better we do it right than do it quick. Of course 'right and quick' would be perfect but it rarely works out that way. :)
 
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Thanks for the explanation abee - I really can't get my head around why people don't understand the situation you seem to have to trot out each time.

Without divulging confidences, can you tell us how Uwe is doing in regards to his back up team?
 

Marcel Eger

Les Beeavinu said:
Thanks for the explanation abee - I really can't get my head around why people don't understand the situation you seem to have to trot out each time.

Without divulging confidences, can you tell us how Uwe is doing in regards to his back up team?
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A coach from a Premier League club has been identified and will join July 1 as First Team Coach. The board has budgeted for an Assistant Manager and a First Team Coach because Uwe wants to be 'hands on' with the coaching and take some of it personally but as with the players to be signed the philosophy is that 'you only get one chance to get it right first time' and therefore rather than rushing into an Assistant Manager appointment Uwe I believe prefers to wait until the right man becomes available.
 

Marcel Eger

Les Beeavinu said:
Thanks for the explanation abee - I really can't get my head around why people don't understand the situation you seem to have to trot out each time.
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I don't mind if I have time. I know that supporters are anxious for as much information as they can get and particularly reassurance that we are actually doing something. However I'm happy to see the Club move away from the ' we have made an enquiry about' type of press release and usually from clubs at our level who have not a chance in hell of actually signing the player in the report. My experience from talking to CEO's at other clubs is that the 'enquiry' is usually along the following lines :

Ring ring.......'Hi this is Jason Cutthroat. How can I help?'

Club : 'Hello Jason. I believe that you are Tarquin Netbuster's agent and I'm the CEO at xxxxx the well established almost bust League One club and just wondering about the availability of Tarquin and what sort of monies he'd be looking for'.

Agent : 'Well we'd be starting talks at £15,000 a week. Do you want to continue this conversation or shall we close out now?'

Club : 'Well that's a lot more than we've ever paid any player before in our history but he is a 'name' and we could I guess flog a lot of shirts and gamble on a run of season ticket sales. Fifteen grand a week eh? Let me have a think'.

Agent : 'I don't think you've got the hang of this. The fifteen grand is to tempt Tarquin to pitch up for training. If you actually want him to play matches then we're talking serious add-ons here which would get my main man up to the thirty grand a week plus image rights bracket. And then I'd be looking for a hundred grand for myself to facilitate the deal'.

Club : 'Gulp. Look my wife's on the other line and wants to talk to me about our dog who's got distemper. Can I get back to you?'

Agent hangs up.

One hour later the football reporter from the local Slugchester Gazette phones the CEO. 'Anything for me pal; I've got a deadline looming'

CEO : 'Erm well........you didn't get it from me but we've made enquiries abour Tarquin Netbuster who is a free agent.'

Reporter : 'Wow. That'll get the fans excited. Cheers mate. Talk soon'.

One hour later on line local paper report that Tarquin Netbuster is a target for club X also confirmed by ticker tape on SSN followed by GPG posts two minutes later on the lines : 'Brentford you've ****ed up again'.

That's the reality of much the crap that you read in the press.
 

Marcel Eger

abee said:
One hour later on line local paper report that Tarquin Netbuster is a target for club X also confirmed by ticker tape on SSN followed by GPG posts two minutes later on the lines : 'Brentford you've ****ed up again'.
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I was under the impression that the rumour hit the GPG before the agent has put the phone down.;)
 

Marcel Eger

I don't want to step on anyones toes but my support next season is entirely dependent on us signing a player called Tarquin Netbuster......Thankyou
 

Marcel Eger

scruff puppy pup said:
:imwith:

And add to that a prolific goalscorer to play off Schlupp.
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I hope and suspect that we have already signed our captain and IMO a prolific goalscorer like Schlupp would ideally need to play off another striker who has other types of skill
 

Marcel Eger

Exciting times and honest communications from the board and a Captain sorted. Most optimistic about the future of this club for 52 yrs (maybe age 7 I had blind optimism). Thanks MB, thanks Abee and thanks the board and good luck Uwe and here's to a great season ahead and hopefully "it's Brentford innit," nothing but a fond memory of the past.
 

Marcel Eger

wayfarer172 said:
I'm not so sure about this influx of german blood to GP.
I was watching Alf Garnett a few evenings ago and he reckons yer actual germans can't think on the left side of there brain.
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Well at least he can think on the other side, that's one more than some of the players we have had.
 

Marcel Eger

abee said:
But it's not an 'either or' situation. Uwe Rosler is well aware of the additions required to turn a midtable squad (and that's what he inherited because that's where we finished last season) into one better equipped to challenge at the top end of the table. Talks are continuing with identified targets including midfield players and strikers and it just so happens that the first two signings were back four because we reached agreement with them first. It could have been the other way around and it's simply happenstance.

UR is now happy with the goalkeeping and defence. Next steps are the midfield and strikers. He and Mark Warburton are involved in intense negotiations and meetings with players and agents and whilst I don't wish to give a definite date for further signings clubs are returning to training next week in most cases and those players that have been holding out and considering the offers put to them by clubs will not wish to be left too far behind in the fitness stakes once the pre-season's are under way. MW was on the phone to me last evening fine tuning the terms on the table for a player after having been called by the agent and as I have said we have offers in and negotiations continuing for a number of players and in competition with other clubs. I posted yesterday I think that if other clubs weren't competing for our targets then we'd all be wondering about the quality of our 'want' list. Shaleum Logan said in his Bees Player interview that he had other offers from clubs local to him in the north west but he had been sold that Brentford was the best move for his career. It takes time but better we do it right than do it quick. Of course 'right and quick' would be perfect but it rarely works out that way. :)
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Thanks for this explanation but I feel there is a much more obvious answer. We all know Germans are very methodical so it seems to me he is signing players in the precise order on which they appear on the pitch.
You may think I'm talking rubbish but lets see in a few weeks if we've actually signed players in this sequence:

Right Back
Centre Back
Right mid field
Centre midfield
Right footed forward
Left footed forward

More seriously, if the first two signings have now set the minimum standard for the next four, things are getting very exciting
 

Marcel Eger

abee said:
I don't mind if I have time. I know that supporters are anxious for as much information as they can get and particularly reassurance that we are actually doing something. However I'm happy to see the Club move away from the ' we have made an enquiry about' type of press release and usually from clubs at our level who have not a chance in hell of actually signing the player in the report. My experience from talking to CEO's at other clubs is that the 'enquiry' is usually along the following lines :

Ring ring.......'Hi this is Jason Cutthroat. How can I help?'

Club : 'Hello Jason. I believe that you are Tarquin Netbuster's agent and I'm the CEO at xxxxx the well established almost bust League One club and just wondering about the availability of Tarquin and what sort of monies he'd be looking for'.

Agent : 'Well we'd be starting talks at £15,000 a week. Do you want to continue this conversation or shall we close out now?'

Club : 'Well that's a lot more than we've ever paid any player before in our history but he is a 'name' and we could I guess flog a lot of shirts and gamble on a run of season ticket sales. Fifteen grand a week eh? Let me have a think'.

Agent : 'I don't think you've got the hang of this. The fifteen grand is to tempt Tarquin to pitch up for training. If you actually want him to play matches then we're talking serious add-ons here which would get my main man up to the thirty grand a week plus image rights bracket. And then I'd be looking for a hundred grand for myself to facilitate the deal'.

Club : 'Gulp. Look my wife's on the other line and wants to talk to me about our dog who's got distemper. Can I get back to you?'

Agent hangs up.

One hour later the football reporter from the local Slugchester Gazette phones the CEO. 'Anything for me pal; I've got a deadline looming'

CEO : 'Erm well........you didn't get it from me but we've made enquiries abour Tarquin Netbuster who is a free agent.'

Reporter : 'Wow. That'll get the fans excited. Cheers mate. Talk soon'.

One hour later on line local paper report that Tarquin Netbuster is a target for club X also confirmed by ticker tape on SSN followed by GPG posts two minutes later on the lines : 'Brentford you've ****ed up again'.

That's the reality of much the crap that you read in the press.
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abee,

Thanks for the update, deep down I think a lot of us on here are pleased that "new", potentially exciting, names are choosing Brentford.
I think it's public knowledge that any forward with a single season of 20 goals at any level from conference seems to believe they are worth circa £7k a week. I'd really like see a real risk and reward payment if they have confidence in their ability with half that as basic at most but a bonus that allows them to earn up to £10k retrospectively if they hit goals target and we achieve promotion.
 

Marcel Eger

Thanks for the info abee. Exciting times!

P.s I heard Tarquin was seen at the training ground this morning!
 

Marcel Eger

Herr-net Buster and Herr Schlupp could be the next front line for BFC and Germany.
 

Marcel Eger

Welcome to GP Marcel.
 

Marcel Eger

Barry Paul said:
Thanks for this explanation but I feel there is a much more obvious answer. We all know Germans are very methodical so it seems to me he is signing players in the precise order on which they appear on the pitch.
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:(

You are quite right and clearly have inside info. He wanted to make his first signing a mascot.
 

Marcel Eger

abee, get back to work and sign lots of players and members of the management team. Enough of the GPG.
 

Marcel Eger

It does seem incredible that that basic mathematics of dividing the number 22 (taken from "I want a squad of 22 or 23") by 2 escapes some people. This equation leaves a simple conclusion that there will be approximately 2 players for each position; meaning four centre backs in this case. One went out and one has come in to maintain the number. It does not prevent other clubs from making offers and it does not disallow the club from accepting an offer but the idea that 17 players is enough these days is plain ridiculous. No player should feel he has a divine right to a starting position. We were in a terrible state at the end of last season with only 3 CB's.
 

Marcel Eger

abee said:
But it's not an 'either or' situation. Uwe Rosler is well aware of the additions required to turn a midtable squad (and that's what he inherited because that's where we finished last season) into one better equipped to challenge at the top end of the table. Talks are continuing with identified targets including midfield players and strikers and it just so happens that the first two signings were back four because we reached agreement with them first. It could have been the other way around and it's simply happenstance.

UR is now happy with the goalkeeping and defence. Next steps are the midfield and strikers. He and Mark Warburton are involved in intense negotiations and meetings with players and agents and whilst I don't wish to give a definite date for further signings clubs are returning to training next week in most cases and those players that have been holding out and considering the offers put to them by clubs will not wish to be left too far behind in the fitness stakes once the pre-season's are under way. MW was on the phone to me last evening fine tuning the terms on the table for a player after having been called by the agent and as I have said we have offers in and negotiations continuing for a number of players and in competition with other clubs. I posted yesterday I think that if other clubs weren't competing for our targets then we'd all be wondering about the quality of our 'want' list. Shaleum Logan said in his Bees Player interview that he had other offers from clubs local to him in the north west but he had been sold that Brentford was the best move for his career. It takes time but better we do it right than do it quick. Of course 'right and quick' would be perfect but it rarely works out that way. :)
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Thank you, Sir, for this very useful and interesting information( and the subsequent posting re the coach etc)
And so early in the day, too! :sorted:
 

Marcel Eger

jlove said:
It does seem incredible that that basic mathematics of dividing the number 22 (taken from "I want a squad of 22 or 23") by 2 escapes some people. This equation leaves a simple conclusion that there will be approximately 2 players for each position; meaning four centre backs in this case. One went out and one has come in to maintain the number. It does not prevent other clubs from making offers and it does not disallow the club from accepting an offer but the idea that 17 players is enough these days is plain ridiculous. No player should feel he has a divine right to a starting position. We were in a terrible state at the end of last season with only 3 CB's.
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Your reasoning makes sense, however personally I doubt that we'll keep a "quality " 4th choice centre back happy for long. Don't know Eger but his pedigree suggests he's a starter.

If KO is here I would prefer alongside and that leaves both Leon and Pim on the bench. Leon was the subject of speculation with Leeds and Pim I suspect needs to kickstart his career that won't happen if he isn't playing.

I can see 4 centre backs in the squad just not the 4 we have now.
 

Marcel Eger

abee said:
I don't mind if I have time. I know that supporters are anxious for as much information as they can get and particularly reassurance that we are actually doing something. However I'm happy to see the Club move away from the ' we have made an enquiry about' type of press release and usually from clubs at our level who have not a chance in hell of actually signing the player in the report. My experience from talking to CEO's at other clubs is that the 'enquiry' is usually along the following lines :

Ring ring.......'Hi this is Jason Cutthroat. How can I help?'

Club : 'Hello Jason. I believe that you are Tarquin Netbuster's agent and I'm the CEO at xxxxx the well established almost bust League One club and just wondering about the availability of Tarquin and what sort of monies he'd be looking for'.

Agent : 'Well we'd be starting talks at £15,000 a week. Do you want to continue this conversation or shall we close out now?'

Club : 'Well that's a lot more than we've ever paid any player before in our history but he is a 'name' and we could I guess flog a lot of shirts and gamble on a run of season ticket sales. Fifteen grand a week eh? Let me have a think'.

Agent : 'I don't think you've got the hang of this. The fifteen grand is to tempt Tarquin to pitch up for training. If you actually want him to play matches then we're talking serious add-ons here which would get my main man up to the thirty grand a week plus image rights bracket. And then I'd be looking for a hundred grand for myself to facilitate the deal'.

Club : 'Gulp. Look my wife's on the other line and wants to talk to me about our dog who's got distemper. Can I get back to you?'

Agent hangs up.

One hour later the football reporter from the local Slugchester Gazette phones the CEO. 'Anything for me pal; I've got a deadline looming'

CEO : 'Erm well........you didn't get it from me but we've made enquiries abour Tarquin Netbuster who is a free agent.'

Reporter : 'Wow. That'll get the fans excited. Cheers mate. Talk soon'.

One hour later on line local paper report that Tarquin Netbuster is a target for club X also confirmed by ticker tape on SSN followed by GPG posts two minutes later on the lines : 'Brentford you've ****ed up again'.

That's the reality of much the crap that you read in the press.
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THis must rank as one of the funniests posts ever, allthough it was meant to be serious. lol. Thanks abee, you have made my day.
 

Marcel Eger

But my reasoning is that, if we can't have four quality centre backs (or any other position, for that matter), then don't sign or retain players just to make up the numbers. I believe that every player we sign should be potentially better than those we have; no sentimentality.

I'm really proud (at the moment) that while other teams at our level are signing up players on the merry-go-round of the lower leagues, we have signed a player from an English Premier League squad and a player from a German Bundesliga squad.
 

Marcel Eger

gashbee said:
We've been crying out for a decent captain for years.........since Paul Evans imo. Our captain is a decent player but not captain material bless him.
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That's rich.

Looks a ****ing fantastic signing. Uwe says he captained his team to 2 successive promotions & into the top flight so that'll do for me!
Thanks for the polite & interesting updates Alkatraz Bee.
Welcome to the club Marcel.
Is if really true he has a beard? First a bald manager & now bearded players. MB certainly thinks outside the box.
GOING UP!!
:yuck:
 

Marcel Eger

wayfarer172 said:
THis must rank as one of the funniests posts ever, allthough it was meant to be serious. lol. Thanks abee, you have made my day.
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Yes, it truly was very, very funny indeed.:)
I am hoping to team up with him as the new Galton & Simpson...
 

Marcel Eger

His website is a little more refined that some of his future colleagues twitters
 

Marcel Eger

shouldbee said:
Probably better than some of the rest of our squad ?
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lol With two hours of lessons he'll probably be better than Weston, Karleigh and Spillane. Slightly concerned there could be a language barrier. Hope not though.
 

Marcel Eger

With 4 CBs does this mean that those 2 who aren't actually playing - one or both of 'em on the bench for 1st team games - would play in Development Squad friendly matches to keep match fitness. This also applies to any 1st team player that does not get involved in a league match.
 

Marcel Eger

hatfieldbee said:
With 4 CBs does this mean that those 2 who aren't actually playing - one or both of 'em on the bench for 1st team games - would play in Development Squad friendly matches to keep match fitness. This also applies to any 1st team player that does not get involved in a league match.
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I've been wondering how this might work. Is the development squad intended to bridge the rather big gap between the trainees and the first team? It could mean there's to be more of a two-way relationship between the first team and the next tier down, which would make sense of having a large-ish squad. What are the competitive opportunities for the development squad?
 

Marcel Eger

jlove said:
But my reasoning is that, if we can't have four quality centre backs (or any other position, for that matter), then don't sign or retain players just to make up the numbers. I believe that every player we sign should be potentially better than those we have; no sentimentality.

I'm really proud (at the moment) that while other teams at our level are signing up players on the merry-go-round of the lower leagues, we have signed a player from an English Premier League squad and a player from a German Bundesliga squad.
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I'm not arguing but......

In an ideal world I'd agree but at our level you won't keep a Torres on the bench while Drogba plays. No reserves, no champions league, no rotation so someone capable of commanding a first team place won't stay on the bench.

Couldn't agree more re the new signings, can't wait for the season to start.
 

Marcel Eger

Salford Bee said:
lol With two hours of lessons he'll probably be better than Weston, Karleigh and Spillane. Slightly concerned there could be a language barrier. Hope not though.
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I am sure the club are working hard to bring the rest of the squad up to Marcels standard of English
 

Marcel Eger

I'm sure you meant to say the new Bird and Fortune,which would be more appropriate in Brentford's case.
 

Marcel Eger

Thank you for the updates abee and for your wit and wisdom your previous post was starting to read like an old Play For Today

I know you don't need to impress me but I am encouraged that the same old names and "formulae" are not being applied

We live in very interesting times
 

Marcel Eger

coconino said:
I've been wondering how this might work. Is the development squad intended to bridge the rather big gap between the trainees and the first team? It could mean there's to be more of a two-way relationship between the first team and the next tier down, which would make sense of having a large-ish squad. What are the competitive opportunities for the development squad?
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As far as I understood it, there are only friendlies, which are often fixed up at short notice. However, since there are only ever going to be maximum 14 1st teamers in actual action in a league game, this leaves up to, say, 8 of them not getting a game in between matches. Does this then mean that the Development squad needn't necessarily have a full 11 member team registered, & that any 'shortfall' for their matches would be made up from the 1st team and/or youths?
 

Marcel Eger

So had Richard Lee hasn't he? :no:
 

Marcel Eger

sonofabee said:
Your reasoning makes sense, however personally I doubt that we'll keep a "quality " 4th choice centre back happy for long. Don't know Eger but his pedigree suggests he's a starter.

If KO is here I would prefer alongside and that leaves both Leon and Pim on the bench. Leon was the subject of speculation with Leeds and Pim I suspect needs to kickstart his career that won't happen if he isn't playing.

I can see 4 centre backs in the squad just not the 4 we have now.
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This is one of the things which AS was so poor at, man-management and keeping the whole team happy.

This signing looks good on paper, of course CB's will get injured and personally I feel 4 players for 2 positions is fine (especially after the end of last season debacle). However I wouldn't assume an automatic start for him. Obviously Uwe must like him but he has no divine right to start, same as with any of the defenders. We might end up seeing a whole new starting combination in defence (Pim/Eger anyone), but I wouldn't rule out Leon/Karleigh to start the first game of the season, as I am sure Uwe recognises that they were a very sturdy partnership last season.
 
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