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i hope these token gesturing over paid presenters leave for good then they can all fight with the other token gesturing presenters at Bt sport and Sky.Great opportunity to bring in some other platforms which are more about the game than presenters.
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Bill Benn said:
i hope these token gesturing over paid presenters leave for good then they can all fight with the other token gesturing presenters at Bt sport and Sky.Great opportunity to bring in some other platforms which are more about the game than presenters.
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Greg Dyke today suggests GL is likely to earn much more elsewhere.
 

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Just waiting for the BBC Football website to be left blank this afternoon now.
 

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What is rather strange is that the BBC's own website seems desperate to keep this as its top story. Just been following it, but the standout 'breaking news' they posted below made me laugh. BBC gets all the big stories:

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Bill Benn said:
i hope these token gesturing over paid presenters leave for good then they can all fight with the other token gesturing presenters at Bt sport and Sky.Great opportunity to bring in some other platforms which are more about the game than presenters.
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I think there has been a pattern emerging showing where a lot of the football industry sit in Britain, I presume supported by a significant majority of football communities. I expect we'll see support across football stadiums today for the stance taken by the BBC football department this weekend. Football is fully supportive of GL and his colleagues, just changing platforms won't reduce that support.
 

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Shamrock_Bee said:
I think there has been a pattern emerging showing where a lot of the football industry sit in Britain, I presume supported by a significant majority of football communities. I expect we'll see support across football stadiums today for the stance taken by the BBC football department this weekend. Football is fully supportive of GL and his colleagues, just changing platforms won't reduce that support.
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I don't. What are you expecting to happen? Banners and chanting from the stands?
 

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beebopalula said:
Looking forward to a bigger stream of football. I never watch MOTD live and just skip to the Bees bit. I don't need a pundit to tell me what I've already seen. Football is a basic game . You don't need wizardry to see what's going on.
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I’m pretty sure the amount of actual football footage we see on MOTD is restricted by the TV rights package “thingy”, hence the need for presenter/pundits to pad out the show. So we’ll actually see a shorter length MOTD tonight…
 

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Isleworth_Bee said:
I don't. What are you expecting to happen? Banners and chanting from the stands?
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The PFA have said players don't have to do interviews with MOTD for a start and yes in regards the stands I'd be surprised if there are not some chants acknowledging what has happened and supporting GL in a lot of the stadiums.
 

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Newbee said:
I’m pretty sure the amount of actual football footage we see on MOTD is restricted by the TV rights package “thingy”, hence the need for presenter/pundits to pad out the show. So we’ll actually see a shorter length MOTD tonight…
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Give it an hour or two and we'll find out it's to be a 25 minute programme now, with the rest replaced by a classic episode of 'Mrs Brown's Boys.' :poop:
 

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Hippobee said:
What is rather strange is that the BBC's own website seems desperate to keep this as its top story. Just been following it, but the standout 'breaking news' they posted below made me laugh. BBC gets all the big stories:

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Isn’t it possible already to watch continuous Bargain Hunt on one BBC channel or other, total dross. But still we have to pay our licence fee ?
 

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People on both sides of the fence with this have tried to justify their views by claiming they are defending "free speech" or on the flip side, advocating for neutrality. I think that’s BS really, and the situation is actually quite simple: it stands to reason that if you agree with Lineker's comments and political stance, you would be outraged by the decision to suspend him; if you disagree with him, you would support the BBC's decision.

Personally, I found Lineker's comments strange but not unsurprising. In today’s world I believe we too often compare things to the high school history-book narrative of WW2, Hitler, the Nazis, and Communism etc. This is kind of weird to me, insensitive, and an inappropriate lens through which to view and explain the world. This is no comment on the merits (or otherwise) of current government policy btw, obviously this forum is not the place for that discussion.

While I personally do not particularly like Lineker and would not be unhappy if he were replaced, I did not expect any action to be taken against him, especially given the political nature of the coverage during the Qatar World Cup which itself came and went with no action taken. And despite everything, for me Lineker has been a constant and it will feel strange to watch the show without him on it.

As for the other panelists boycotting. I do not find the analysis on MOTD very insightful, and it often feels rushed to me anyway. The quality of the show and input from the panelists could be improved with fresh blood, but perhaps at this juncture it would be a good idea to look at taking the show in a slightly different direction. The football media landscape has changed hugely and the likes of BT and Sky and beIN etc. will always have better in-depth analysis now. On Saturday nights, I mostly just tune in to see the highlights of the games. A re-jig of the format to focus more on the action and less on analysis might be no bad thing.
 

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Beyond the comments made by Lineker, after the whole Clarkson thing, perhaps the BBC will now re-evaluate paying ridiculous salaries to presenters who simply don't justify it.

I can't be the only one for whom the thought of MoTD without the scintillating analysis seems like a much better proposition. You only have to see the number of views Sky get of their quick 3 odd minutes highlights, posted by the way far sooner after the games, to see that that's how people seem to consume football nowadays.

Whilst the debate over should his position at the BBC prevent him from speaking will be ongoing, it's just another hallmark of the BBC needing to seriously consider what they wanted to be moving forward
 

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BFC1997 said:
People on both sides of the fence with this have tried to justify their views by claiming they are defending "free speech" or on the flip side, advocating for neutrality. I think that’s BS really, and the situation is actually quite simple: it stands to reason that if you agree with Lineker's comments and political stance, you would be outraged by the decision to suspend him; if you disagree with him, you would support the BBC's decision.

Personally, I found Lineker's comments strange but not unsurprising. In today’s world I believe we too often compare things to the high school history-book narrative of WW2, Hitler, the Nazis, and Communism etc. This is kind of weird to me, insensitive, and an inappropriate lens through which to view and explain the world. This is no comment on the merits (or otherwise) of current government policy btw, obviously this forum is not the place for that discussion.

While I personally do not particularly like Lineker and would not be unhappy if he were replaced, I did not expect any action to be taken against him, especially given the political nature of the coverage during the Qatar World Cup which itself came and went with no action taken. And despite everything, for me Lineker has been a constant and it will feel strange to watch the show without him on it.

As for the other panelists boycotting. I do not find the analysis on MOTD very insightful, and it often feels rushed to me anyway. The quality of the show and input from the panelists could be improved with fresh blood, but perhaps at this juncture it would be a good idea to look at taking the show in a slightly different direction. The football media landscape has changed hugely and the likes of BT and Sky and beIN etc. will always have better in-depth analysis now. On Saturday nights, I mostly just tune in to see the highlights of the games. A re-jig of the format to focus more on the action and less on analysis might be no bad thing.
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On that we agree, Micah Richards is a lovely lad I’m sure but his analysis and lack of insight is embarrassing. It sounds like he’s just blagging it
 

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Will MotD return?

This is all getting a bit Top Gear. Lineker could easily take himself & many others with him and create his own shown, on a different network.

Is that something he might consider now?
 

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RAF_Patto said:
Will MotD return?

This is all getting a bit Top Gear. Lineker could easily take himself & many others with him and create his own shown, on a different network.

Is that something he might consider now?
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Like a football show where they show highlights of games and then talk about it? Is there a market for that?
 

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BFC1997 said:
People on both sides of the fence with this have tried to justify their views by claiming they are defending "free speech" or on the flip side, advocating for neutrality. I think that’s BS really, and the situation is actually quite simple: it stands to reason that if you agree with Lineker's comments and political stance, you would be outraged by the decision to suspend him; if you disagree with him, you would support the BBC's decision.

Personally, I found Lineker's comments strange but not unsurprising. In today’s world I believe we too often compare things to the high school history-book narrative of WW2, Hitler, the Nazis, and Communism etc. This is kind of weird to me, insensitive, and an inappropriate lens through which to view and explain the world. This is no comment on the merits (or otherwise) of current government policy btw, obviously this forum is not the place for that discussion.

While I personally do not particularly like Lineker and would not be unhappy if he were replaced, I did not expect any action to be taken against him, especially given the political nature of the coverage during the Qatar World Cup which itself came and went with no action taken. And despite everything, for me Lineker has been a constant and it will feel strange to watch the show without him on it.

As for the other panelists boycotting. I do not find the analysis on MOTD very insightful, and it often feels rushed to me anyway. The quality of the show and input from the panelists could be improved with fresh blood, but perhaps at this juncture it would be a good idea to look at taking the show in a slightly different direction. The football media landscape has changed hugely and the likes of BT and Sky and beIN etc. will always have better in-depth analysis now. On Saturday nights, I mostly just tune in to see the highlights of the games. A re-jig of the format to focus more on the action and less on analysis might be no bad thing.
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I would agree about the MOTD product, but not because of the last few days. Most people will have seen the goals by 10.30pm on a Saturday night and the show through no fault of the team feels rushed.

The highlights package BBC buy is worth £200million plus though which is lucrative to the PL so it's in their interests to still have a highlights concept.

MOTD 2 on a Sunday night is a much better show, I presume the reason is they've got less games to show over a decent amount of time so the whole programme appears organised and detailed.

I think the Saturday night team are ok, maybe they should concentrate on the two best games of the day, provide proper analysis on those and then just run through the rest of the games in 30 seconds each.
 

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RAF_Patto said:
Will MotD return?

This is all getting a bit Top Gear. Lineker could easily take himself & many others with him and create his own shown, on a different network.

Is that something he might consider now?
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He already co-owns goalhanger productions. Their produce multiple top 10 podcasts and films.
So it could well be extended. I doubt he will be losing too much sleep about this suspension.
 

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Shamrock_Bee said:
I would agree about the MOTD product, but not because of the last few days. Most people will have seen the goals by 10.30pm on a Saturday night and the show through no fault of the team feels rushed.

The highlights package BBC buy is worth £200million plus though which is lucrative to the PL so it's in their interests to still have a highlights concept.

MOTD 2 on a Sunday night is a much better show, I presume the reason is they've got less games to show over a decent amount of time so the whole programme appears organised and detailed.

I think the Saturday night team are ok, maybe they should concentrate on the two best games of the day, provide proper analysis on those and then just run through the rest of the games in 30 seconds.
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Good point about MOTD2 - much better watch generally - our own MC is a good presenter with less 'banter'
 

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nathanbee said:
Unfortunately, the only winners will be those who want to defund the BBC and have all content run by private broadcasters. Not long before we get to no free to air sports in this country.
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Watch the printed press who have peddled this for the last wk pivot to this over the coming days.
 

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So... MOTD down to highlights only (with or without commentators?)
Football Focus pulled
Final Score pulled
5 Live Sport pulled from Radio 5 this afternoon
 

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Shamrock_Bee said:
The PFA have said players don't have to do interviews with MOTD for a start and yes in regards the stands I'd be surprised if there are not some chants acknowledging what has happened and supporting GL in a lot of the stadiums.
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If i was at the game today, i wouldnt be cheering GL name. Each to their own i suppose.
 

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You can see Sky highlights in any order you choose, very quickly after a match ends. Managers comments too if you want them and specific points of interest in a game.

Match of the Day is an irrelevance now.

BBC are turning down offers of free golf packages now. So golf will go like cricket did a while ago.
 

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Bill Benn said:
Thats right the women of principle Alex Scott when asked why she went to Qatar when she had been very critical she replied “ I thought about it and then decided i love my job so im going” Yes a month of 5 star luxury and all expenses paid and your mug across the worlds tv networks was hard to give up for principles.Where as giving up a trip down road and a 30 minute tv spot that hardly anyone watches ……what a martyr
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Exactly they are all hypocrites in my book.
 

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Houghton Bee said:
So... MOTD down to highlights only (with or without commentators?)
Football Focus pulled
Final Score pulled
5 Live Sport pulled from Radio 5 this afternoon
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Bring back club call and late Evening Standard classified then ?
 

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taylor339 said:
I suspect common sense will prevail - he made an incorrect tweet according to his BBC contract, which I doubt will qualify as gross misconduct. My guess is he'll be given a reprimand on his future behaviour online and things will go back to normal.
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To which he will hopefully reply Foxtrot Oscar none of your business
 

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The reporting on the BBC website is just odd. Reporting on “the bbc” like it’s nothing to do with them ??
 
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