Fitz as manager?

[NorthamptonBee]

Three times in a row doesn't look too clever, does it?

To be fair the first one was acceptable as we did well just to get there. The second was a travesty and this one has "WTF" written all over it.

 

[West Ealing Bee]

I will say this though - Fitz has got one hell of a job coming up in the summer. Out of today's side - Shipperley, Keith, Richards, Leary, Kuffour, Abbey, Griffiths, Willock, Kuffour even Ide could well be elsewhere next year.

So important we're losing two of him

 

[beeeehive]

So you didn't read my post then.

As you're so keen on stats, have a quick look in all divisions over a period of about 10 years and tell me how many teams who were rock bottom at Christmas turned their season around. I'll take a guess and say less than 5% and I'll have another guess and say that 95% of those teams changed their manager.

Judge Fitz on next year's results - this season he's clearing up sh*t but next year he only has himself to blame.

Too much like hard work!

True, but usually it improves as in the team gets more points, Fitz has actually done worse then Leroy, I just thought it was an interesting stat.

Some people sing his praises, but I think it's far far far to early, he's already been given more time and more of a chance then Leroy. Next season it will be hard to judge as the division will be different and our budget will be better then a few teams so it's a whole different situation where promotion will be the goal.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

To be fair the first one was acceptable as we did well just to get there. The second was a travesty and this one has "WTF" written all over it.

Hats off for getting us there in year one but last year was one of the biggest blow ups you can imagine. If he ****s it up for MK Dons this year, I wonder if Winckleman will force him out.

 

[beeeehive]

Talbot was a Wally Downes signing... Allen shipped him out because he thought Newman was Talbot with added fitness. How did Martin's expensively assembled squad get on today? Surely he's not going to blow another promotion?

Wow, I could of sworn Talbot was Allen's, ah well. Talbot was the main man in keeping us up that season. He'd be a good manager maybe

 

[Les Beeavinu]

So important we're losing two of him

So you think it's smart to take the piss out of people with a stutter do you? c c c c c ***.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Some people sing his praises, but I think it's far far far to early, he's already been given more time and more of a chance then Leroy. Next season it will be hard to judge as the division will be different and our budget will be better then a few teams so it's a whole different situation where promotion will be the goal.

Now you're talking sense. But not perhaps about the budget bit. And I'm not sure that ready for a tilt at the Championship just yet.

 

[Edmundo]

To be fair the first one was acceptable as we did well just to get there. The second was a travesty and this one has "WTF" written all over it.

I don't see it that way. I thought we should have sailed into the play-offs in 2005 with the side we had. Only getting in by the skin of our teeth was part of the failure IMHO.

 

[beeeehive]

I always thought Allen used to bottle it and go far too defensive when it came down to the big games. His record against the other teams at the top was always quite poor if I remember.

We always ended the season with a stumble, apart from the year he saved us, that was an amazing achievement.

 

[JTofBFC]

Well, on the evidence of what my own eyes have seen when watching games, Fitz has transformed the side from a rabble into a football team.

You must have your eyes shut then. They have looked like a rabble (under Fitz) most of the time I have seen them since Leroy was sacked (and yes, they were also a rabble before that also).

Bottom line is that Fitz has not had that much of an impact on results and that is despite him having a budget in weekly terms since the transfer window opened way in excess of what he can hope to have next year in League 2 and probably way in excess of what Leroy had.

Sentimentality is a wonderful thing isn't it. Unfortunately it doesn't win you enough games and neither does Fitz.

I would love him to turn this side around in the next 9 games so I could honestly believe he would be a good appointment. It aint gonna happen though and he wasn't a good appointment and he won't be the best option for next year either.

3 wins on the trot a couple of weeks ago has been a welcome break from the dross that has occurred either side of those wins. We haven't even looked like getting a win in all the other many games under his management and many of them have been embarrassing. I couldn't be arsed to go to B/sh*tty today becaise I knew we would lose and it is disappointing to read that we carried on with a defensive formation even when chasing the game.

Get real everyone. It was a crap appointment and we are soon to be picking up the tab for it.

Maybe some heads on the Boards of BFC will roll for making two crap managerial appointments in one season but don't hold your breath; but for those of you who are wondering if Fitz is really a great appointment because the rose tinted specs dept tell you he is. Well wake up and look at the results and the league table.

Personally, i'm hoping for someone better to lead us out of League 2 next year than someone who has managed to have a worse record on points per game than Leroy which must have been a pretty difficult task to achieve. well you managed it Fitz. Well done !

Leroy managed to scrape 17 points in 18 games before being sacked.

Fitz has managed 16 in 19.

Whoopee ****ing dee.

Wakey wakey.

HE WAS THE WRONG MAN FOR THE JOB. NO EXPERIENCE NO NOTHING. IT WAS A GAMBLE IT DIDN'T WORK..

 

[Alex]

 

[Jimbee]

HE WAS THE WRONG MAN FOR THE JOB. NO EXPERIENCE NO NOTHING. IT WAS A GAMBLE IT DIDN'T WORK..

Yet you believe Patterson should have been given the job?

 

[KD]

I accept that the stats alone don't paint a pretty picture. However, he has done enough. We are not going to go through another recruitment process in the Summer, it would destroy us. Teams that get promoted stick with their managers, give the team a good pre season, start planning their transfers in and out in May and keep as much consistency in the side as possible from season to season. Fitz cares about this club and will do a good job for us if we give him time. I would rather take this route even if it meant we had to have a change next Christmas but I don't think we will.

 

[Nick Hester]

You must have your eyes shut then. They have looked like a rabble (under Fitz) most of the time I have seen them since Leroy was sacked (and yes, they were also a rabble before that also).

Bottom line is that Fitz has not had that much of an impact on results and that is despite him having a budget in weekly terms since the transfer window opened way in excess of what he can hope to have next year in League 2 and probably way in excess of what Leroy had.

Sentimentality is a wonderful thing isn't it. Unfortunately it doesn't win you enough games and neither does Fitz.

I would love him to turn this side around in the next 9 games so I could honestly believe he would be a good appointment. It aint gonna happen though and he wasn't a good appointment and he won't be the best option for next year either.

3 wins on the trot a couple of weeks ago has been a welcome break from the dross that has occurred either side of those wins. We haven't even looked like getting a win in all the other many games under his management and many of them have been embarrassing. I couldn't be arsed to go to B/sh*tty today becaise I knew we would lose and it is disappointing to read that we carried on with a defensive formation even when chasing the game.

Get real everyone. It was a crap appointment and we are soon to be picking up the tab for it.

Maybe some heads on the Boards of BFC will roll for making two crap managerial appointments in one season but don't hold your breath; but for those of you who are wondering if Fitz is really a great appointment because the rose tinted specs dept tell you he is. Well wake up and look at the results and the league table.

Personally, i'm hoping for someone better to lead us out of League 2 next year than someone who has managed to have a worse record on points per game than Leroy which must have been a pretty difficult task to achieve. well you managed it Fitz. Well done !

Leroy managed to scrape 17 points in 18 games before being sacked.

Fitz has managed 16 in 19.

Whoopee ****ing dee.

Wakey wakey.

HE WAS THE WRONG MAN FOR THE JOB. NO EXPERIENCE NO NOTHING. IT WAS A GAMBLE IT DIDN'T WORK..

And look at the budget that has been allowed to be blown away??

Can you remember another manager allowed to bring in around seven or eight players???

Blame the people who employed Fitz.

As I wrote in the last issue of the fanzine, the only people who were creaming their pants were the same players who had treated the shirt and badge disgracefully beforehand..

I'm not saying that Patterson would have done a better job, that's guess work, but it would have beena fresh start, new broom etc etc..


If also fed up with people bleating on about the rise and rise of BFC..in plain fact we are worse off now than we have ever been, seven points a drift and not too many games to play...

 

[casual]

In the short space of time that fitz has been in the job he is trying to do his best with a squad that was low on spirit ,confidence ,didnt know if he they were coming or going greenholme ,the man needs to be given a full season in charge before anyone could judge him ,the only bad signing i feel he has made is Neil I couldnt score in a brothel shipperley

SCOTT FITZ IS THE MAN TO TAKE US FORWARD ,GET OFF HIS BACK AND LET HIM DO HIS JOB

 

[bees_boy_90]

And look at the budget that has been allowed to be blown away??

Can you remember another manager allowed to bring in around seven or eight players???

Blame the people who employed Fitz.

As I wrote in the last issue of the fanzine, the only people who were creaming their pants were the same players who had treated the shirt and badge disgracefully beforehand..

I'm not saying that Patterson would have done a better job, that's guess work, but it would have beena fresh start, new broom etc etc..


If also fed up with people bleating on about the rise and rise of BFC..in plain fact we are worse off now than we have ever been, seven points a drift and not too many games to play...

cantr argue there, look at the bunch of "players" he inherited, he has brought in players, but at the same time loook at the 1's that have gone, moore, tomlin, rhodes etc.
No point just moaning about fitz, he is learning and growning, get behind him for the end of the season at least.

 

[1markbee]

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And look at the budget that has been allowed to be blown away??

Can you remember another manager allowed to bring in around seven or eight players???

Blame the people who employed Fitz.

But look how many players Fitz has shown the door to and has loaned out! Surely the budget isn't too far out?

I VOTE FOR FITZ. It's not easy taking on a $h!te side which is low on confidence.

 

[hubble]

ass manager alan reeves was ass manager at swindon last season and they were relegated

 

[TW1Bee]

If Fitz's contract is just till the end of the season, if we (or when we) get relegated then I've a feeling he won't be here next season. Would he want to stay ?

 

[abee]

...........if we (or when we) get relegated then I've a feeling he won't be here next season. Would he want to stay ?

Wrap up warm and it'll go away.

 

[Jimbee]

You must have your eyes shut then. They have looked like a rabble (under Fitz) most of the time I have seen them since Leroy was sacked (and yes, they were also a rabble before that also).

Bottom line is that Fitz has not had that much of an impact on results and that is despite him having a budget in weekly terms since the transfer window opened way in excess of what he can hope to have next year in League 2 and probably way in excess of what Leroy had.

Sentimentality is a wonderful thing isn't it. Unfortunately it doesn't win you enough games and neither does Fitz.

I would love him to turn this side around in the next 9 games so I could honestly believe he would be a good appointment. It aint gonna happen though and he wasn't a good appointment and he won't be the best option for next year either.

3 wins on the trot a couple of weeks ago has been a welcome break from the dross that has occurred either side of those wins. We haven't even looked like getting a win in all the other many games under his management and many of them have been embarrassing. I couldn't be arsed to go to B/sh*tty today becaise I knew we would lose and it is disappointing to read that we carried on with a defensive formation even when chasing the game.

Get real everyone. It was a crap appointment and we are soon to be picking up the tab for it.

Maybe some heads on the Boards of BFC will roll for making two crap managerial appointments in one season but don't hold your breath; but for those of you who are wondering if Fitz is really a great appointment because the rose tinted specs dept tell you he is. Well wake up and look at the results and the league table.

Personally, i'm hoping for someone better to lead us out of League 2 next year than someone who has managed to have a worse record on points per game than Leroy which must have been a pretty difficult task to achieve. well you managed it Fitz. Well done !

Leroy managed to scrape 17 points in 18 games before being sacked.

Fitz has managed 16 in 19.

Whoopee ****ing dee.

Wakey wakey.

HE WAS THE WRONG MAN FOR THE JOB. NO EXPERIENCE NO NOTHING. IT WAS A GAMBLE IT DIDN'T WORK..

I just read your post in another thread from about 4 days ago which was somewhat different to your new tack. lol

 

[Salford Bee]

Prior to games vs. Bristol City and Scunthorpe who expected anything from those respective games? Points picked up against those two would have been a bonus. A win vs. Rotherham is essential.

With Leroy's Players

Fitz took over at the worst possible time. The team had lost their last 5 games on the trot and in those four League games we'd never looked like scoring. He had 6 days to prepare for his first match away at Cheltenham where we have never got anything from. While he had a while with the team before Doncaster he just couldn't get anything from it. I suppose you could say that the players weren't certain who'd be taking over therefore not listening. A much better performance at Tranmere followed gaining a vital point. Then we were unlucky to get beat at Port Vale. The disallowed goal at Carlisle was a turning point. Againt Millwall who knows what would have happened if Griffiths hadn't messed up. We finally got that win we'd come threated to do so against Chesterfield. We were never going to beat Swansea.

Record: P8 W1 D1 L6

With Fitz's Players

Bournemouth was a disappointment although the players needed time to gel. The fighting spirit against Orient was the start of our revival in my opinion. Then, when down to ten men after five minutes, we were always going to struggle against Yeovil. Carlisle was a dull game but another point picked up. Then we went on our surge beating Blackpool, Brighton and Huddersfield. We gave ourself a platform with those results. We looked tired vs. Northampton on the Monday night. Bradford was a disappointment with the decision late on. Scunthope and Bristol City was the toughest run we've got until the end of the season and anything picked up from there would have been a bonus.

P11 W3 D3 L5

Rotherham
Oldham
Gillingham
Cheltenham
Crewe
Forest
Doncaster
Port Vale
Tranmere

It's not a bad run-in. I can see us being safe with about 50ish points.

 

[West Wilts Bee]

Typical of some of you. You always have to look for someone to blame. Well who is the man for the job then JT? we were always going down the day leroy came, when he went we were to far adrift, and we all know it. Fitz is gradually getting rid of our sh*t players, and thats what they are sh*t. thats why we're going down, this squad is and never was good enough. So don't keep blaming fitz, it's a bloody damn site better than what it was. At least we don't get hammered at home 4-0 anymore. Houdini would have had no chance with the shower of sh*te that Fitz inherited, the worst bunch of rabble that it has been my displeasure to see.

 

[BUBSBEE]

The ONLY measurement of success for Fitz is keeping BFC in League 1. He was appointed to turn around our season and keep us in league 1 and l personally will judge him on that criteria alone. To date he has my support, the team is infinitely better than the one he inherited.

We will know very clearly l suspect by the end of the Cheltenham game if Fitz remains on track to deliver.

Forget the rest of the league todgers as WE are locked into a mini league of 6teams; Muff / Chesterfield / Bradford / Cheltenham and Rotherham where we have to finish top or second top. We play two of them over the next month.

Fitz can win well, badly ugly or just plain lucky, it doesn't really matter.

As to the stats or team and budget he may or may not have next year seems just an exchange of frustrated academic hot air at this stage of the season.

 

[Nick Hester]

It's not a bad run-in. I can see us being safe with about 50ish points.

You really should stop smoking the wacky baccy...

 

[dealbee]

The ONLY measurement of success for Fitz is keeping BFC in League 1. He was appointed to turn around our season and keep us in league 1 and l personally will judge him on that criteria alone. To date he has my support, the team is infinitely better than the one he inherited.

We will know very clearly l suspect by the end of the Cheltenham game if Fitz remains on track to deliver.

Forget the rest of the league todgers as WE are locked into a mini league of 6teams; Muff / Chesterfield / Bradford / Cheltenham and Rotherham where we have to finish top or second top. We play two of them over the next month.

Fitz can win well, badly ugly or just plain lucky, it doesn't really matter.

As to the stats or team and budget he may or may not have next year seems just an exchange of frustrated academic hot air at this stage of the season.

agree with you 100% . To many miserable ***** on here IMO and I hope the team doesn't read some of the crap that's posted on here. Yes, we are in the sh*t. But so are Rotherham, Cheltenham, Bradford City, Bournemoth and Chesterfield. If we can remain injury and suspension free for the rest of the season, I can see no reason why we cant avoid the drop

 

[Stanley]

The ONLY measurement of success for Fitz is keeping BFC in League 1. He was appointed to turn around our season and keep us in league 1 and l personally will judge him on that criteria alone. To date he has my support, the team is infinitely better than the one he inherited.

We will know very clearly l suspect by the end of the Cheltenham game if Fitz remains on track to deliver.

Forget the rest of the league todgers as WE are locked into a mini league of 6teams; Muff / Chesterfield / Bradford / Cheltenham and Rotherham where we have to finish top or second top. We play two of them over the next month.

Fitz can win well, badly ugly or just plain lucky, it doesn't really matter.

As to the stats or team and budget he may or may not have next year seems just an exchange of frustrated academic hot air at this stage of the season.

Yes and No.

I agree that it is not all over but at the same time the Board have to start thinking about next season even if Fitz must concentrate on this one. They have a duty to appoint the best possible person and as soon after the end of season as possible (if not before) if we are to hit the ground running which will be vital if we are in Div 2.

Fitz's record is not great but it is obvious we have a better team and team management even if it still not good enough, under Leroy we would have been going down with the worst team in living memory, an embarassing shambles in fact.

I do not know if there is a better manager available next season than Fitz or not, I suspect the list of "Realistic" appointments is not that long but it is imperative the Board start thinking about it now.

 

[south coast bees]

Yes and No.

I agree that it is not all over but at the same time the Board have to start thinking about next season even if Fitz must concentrate on this one. They have a duty to appoint the best possible person and as soon after the end of season as possible (if not before) if we are to hit the ground running which will be vital if we are in Div 2.

Fitz's record is not great but it is obvious we have a better team and team management even if it still not good enough, under Leroy we would have been going down with the worst team in living memory, an embarassing shambles in fact.

I do not know if there is a better manager available next season than Fitz or not, I suspect the list of "Realistic" appointments is not that long but it is imperative the Board start thinking about it now.

what crap, fitz has shown already that he is the man to lead us next season, in the short time he has been in charge we look 100 times a better team than leroy left behind.
let him build his own team next season in whatever league we are in, he has shown already that he is the man to lead us.

 

[chippendale]

Isn't this a results led business? Fitz hasn't exactly won that many games since he was put in charge.

I also hope the Board are looking around NOW for a replacement.

 

[condorman]

Yes, it is a results led business but if you inherit a bunch of useless rubbish what exactly are you meant to achieve ? (and before people mention MA he had the likes of tabb and sonko already here and we had just signed talbot who was a major factor in our survival).

The players brought in by Fitz have generally been an improvement and he has got rid of players he doesnt rate to try and free up some wages etc.

He is also hampered, as he has publically stated, by the fact that some players simply will not come on loan to a relegation haunted side.

I am not saying he is necessarily the best manager we have ever had, but I think he is doind a decent enough job currently to warrant a bit of faith.

 

[SmiffyBee]

Isn't this a results led business? Fitz hasn't exactly won that many games since he was put in charge.

I also hope the Board are looking around NOW for a replacement.

.....I am sure the top class managers are just queueing up....

Give Fitz the pre-season and a start next year, with his team, rather than the patched up remains of the Leroy infestation.

 

[lalalalalalalalalaBooker]

Would we be in this mess if Fitz had been in charge at the start of the Season? I doubt it.

Have the results improved under Fitz?
a debatable point obviously

Has the team performance improved under Fitz?
Yes

Will Fitz be in charge next Season?
Yes

Should Fitz be in charge next Season?
mmm..yyes

Are there experienced and capable managers queueing up for the opportunity to manage the super-Bees on a 0 budget next Season?
No

 

[chippendale]

Yes, it is a results led business but if you inherit a bunch of useless rubbish what exactly are you meant to achieve ?

The players brought in by Fitz have generally been an improvement .

I am not saying he is necessarily the best manager we have ever had, but I think he is doind a decent enough job currently to warrant a bit of faith.

How many players has he brought in and how many games has he won since the Jan transfer window opened? Also how much has this cost the club?

I do think he will be the manager next season, only because no one else wants the job.

 

[NorthamptonBee]

Don't believe the hype.lol

Fitz has turned us from a joke to a competitive unit and I have just put down the phone to a Bristol fan who can't believe we are going down. I was harsh on our performance but he thinks we played well and worried them whereas we worried me!
Fitz didn't have the time to save us as we all knew we were bolloxed when he came in, however we have a run of winnable games and just being in this position where we have a chance has amazed me.
A few weeks ago I left the Huddersfield ground feeling pretty sure we were staying up but one point from 4 games has pretty much killed that.
We were sh*t in teh Northampton game, robbed up at Bradford, unlucky at home to Scunny and very average at Bristol but a lucky break could have changed those games. The luck I talk about include a dodgy pen not being given, a dodgy pen not leaving the ground and a pen not being conceded so early into a tough game.

Walk the walk and onwards and upwards and all that.

 

[sonofabee]

Good post. Although you make your own luck it does seem when you're down the bottom you don't get the rub of the green. At least now we look like a football team, with spirit and I think tha's down to Fitz and the players he's brought in.

If we don't stay up but win more games than we lose between now and the end of the season I'd hope that we could have some stability during pre season and allow Fitz to start the season as Manager.

 

[Stanley]

Yes, it is a results led business but if you inherit a bunch of useless rubbish what exactly are you meant to achieve ? (and before people mention MA he had the likes of tabb and sonko already here and we had just signed talbot who was a major factor in our survival).

The players brought in by Fitz have generally been an improvement and he has got rid of players he doesnt rate to try and free up some wages etc.

He is also hampered, as he has publically stated, by the fact that some players simply will not come on loan to a relegation haunted side.

I am not saying he is necessarily the best manager we have ever had, but I think he is doind a decent enough job currently to warrant a bit of faith.

Wouldn't argue with that but as others have we shouldn't get too sentimental about Fitz ( much as I like him), indeed we cannot afford to.

He needs , in my view, 3/4 more wins before the end of the season to justify getting the job next season otherwise I think we should look elsewhere. He has much of his own team in now and took a big decision on getting Shipps in ( with whom I am not over impressed with ) so you cannot go on much longer saying he has inherited a pile of rubbish etc.. some of the players he inherited like Framps and KOC have been big players before and I would expect him to be able to get the best out of them again, so far not so good to be honest.

I sense from his interviews that he is running out of ideas what to do to motivate the players to do any better and is relying on luck turning our way, I find that a bit worrying.

 

[SQUELCH]

So much for all his contacts.......

 

[beeeehive]

So the much better team we have now have managed less points in more games

We should be building for next season, we are most probably down.

 

[Mr Cynical]

So the much better team we have now have managed less points in more games

We should be building for next season, we are most probably down.

But its ok, cos we're battling now... we can battle our way down to the Conference and everyone will be happy!!

 

[Deleted member 2202]

Do any of you realise just how bad the team was during the last days of Leroy? How many points would we have won in the 10 games after Crewe had Leroy been in charge? I'll take a stab at 0.

Leroy's record is distorted by the three lucky wins we got in the first few games of the season. Would a Leroy team have deservedly beaten Blackpool, Huddersfield and Brighton on the bounce?

I don't think you'd be so keen on Leroy if he was still in the job today...

 

[beeeehive]

If you give Leroy decent defenders and keeper he may of done very well, I liked the way he's teams attacked. We had a useless back line and still have that to a point bar Richards and Abbey. I personally think you should always start from the back, stop teams scoring against you as much as you can and then work on the attacking players. At our level you're not going to have an outstanding attacking side where the defence can get away with being poo.

Both managers records are rubbish, the team is still not good enough. No loan players or signings have made a huge impact bar Abbey since Fitz IMO. They've all been a bit panic, get em in quick. We're 8 points off safety, the gap has increased under Fitz even with his new 'wonder' signings. Apparently the team has more 'fight' now but we've managed far less draws under Fitz too. They may play with more ugly fight but it hasn't made a drastic improvement on results.

Leroy was sacked after 7 League defeats FACT. With the new signings it's been 5 league defeats, 6 before that, do we sack Fitz at 7 or do we stick with him and give him more budget. Something has gone horribly wrong in all respects of the club this season. The board need to start getting the act together FAST.

Fed up, fed up, fed up, fed up.

Hopefully come the end of the season I'll have a huge egg on my face and trust me I'll be most happy.

 

[beeeehive]

PS Selling two good established Centre Backs is the most stupid thing I've ever witnessed Brentford do. They don't grow on trees, how can any manager possibly replaced them in pre-season, but anyway, let's all blame Leroy.

 

[NorthamptonBee]

You won't have egg on your face but some of the draws under Leroy were embarassing. Leroy had a load of luck come his way and when the luck ran out he became a bit of a sad figure who I genuinely felt sorry for.:sad:
I never saw this expansive attacking football under Leroy that was promised but saw a joke of a team lose more and more confidence each week and then reached the point of complete no hopers who would get walloped week after week.
Fitz isn't perfect but I know who I prefer in charge.

 

[sgaz]

If you give Leroy decent defenders and keeper he may of done very well

I don't follow this?

Leroy was the manager and he chose which defenders he brought in. Why should he be given anything, that's his job

 

[beeeehive]

You won't have egg on your face but some of the draws under Leroy were embarassing. Leroy had a load of luck come his way and when the luck ran out he became a bit of a sad figure who I genuinely felt sorry for.:sad:
I never saw this expansive attacking football under Leroy that was promised but saw a joke of a team lose more and more confidence each week and then reached the point of complete no hopers who would get walloped week after week.
Fitz isn't perfect but I know who I prefer in charge.

I wouldn't say luck is taking over a team where ALL the key players have been sold and you're not even left with a team that could fill all 11 places on the pitch. Then you're given a budget that will only sign league 2 or lower players, not even top ones and you're expected to perform miracles. Then after 7 league defeats getting sacked. Luck is the last thing I'd label Leroy as having.

Without a certain signing Leroy made I doubt Fitz would of won any games. Infact he's the only player who is actually worth a transfer fee of any sorts. This is a very very very big summer for us.

 

[jmcp]

Can someone explain to me why the Leroy wins were all lucky, but the Fitz ones were 'thoroughly deserved'. They have been very similar to me. Huddersfield and Blackpool under Fitz were just as lucky as any of Leroys.

Both of their records are hopeless.

 

[NorthamptonBee]

Can someone explain to me why the Leroy wins were all lucky, but the Fitz ones were 'thoroughly deserved'. They have been very similar to me. Huddersfield and Blackpool under Fitz were just as lucky as any of Leroys.

Both of their records are hopeless.

Right listen up... Scunthorpe, Orient, Brighton away were scandals and I mentioned draws as being lucky if you would like to read again.
Blackpool at home wasn't too deserved if we mention wins but I put that down to a new team that needed gelling and took 65 minutes to understand one another.
I prefer Fitz's team to the shambles under Leroy but I wouldn't mind Callaghan's or Coppell's teams if I had the choice.
I prefer Ide, Keith, Tomlin or Heywood on the wing rather than Brooker.

 

[beeeehive]

Can someone explain to me why the Leroy wins were all lucky, but the Fitz ones were 'thoroughly deserved'. They have been very similar to me. Huddersfield and Blackpool under Fitz were just as lucky as any of Leroys.

Both of their records are hopeless.

Don't foget Brighton at home against 10 men, they could of scored a few but for Abbey.

 

[Carri Bee Un]

feel the need to add, that generally over the years I've come to respect the opinions of a few on this site with regards to matters of the footballing. They are all happier with Fitz. A lot of the people that aren't are the usual dummy spitters that are always suicidal.

 

[jmcp]

Right listen up... Scunthorpe, Orient, Brighton away were scandals and I mentioned draws as being lucky if you would like to read again.
Blackpool at home wasn't too deserved if we mention wins but I put that down to a new team that needed gelling and took 65 minutes to understand one another.
I prefer Fitz's team to the shambles under Leroy but I wouldn't mind Callaghan's or Coppell's teams if I had the choice.
I prefer Ide, Keith, Tomlin or Heywood on the wing rather than Brooker.

I was referring to the post by SouthWalesBee actually