hobbsy
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Five-year rolling TAPs model??
Not only that but it was always a hack as they never natively supported a loyalty points system.
Five-year rolling TAPs model??
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LongLostBee
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Five-year rolling TAPs model??
I'm looking forward to the iris-scanning for home games so we REALLY reward those who turn up week in week out 
Five-year rolling TAPs model??
Not surprised with Kurt’s requirements specification and procurement expertise. Should have stuck to umpah bands.
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Indeed. However I would temper your expectations
horshambees
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Have we not mentioned this particular mess before ?
hobbsy
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Yes many times - if you remember before Ticketmaster you had to keep track of your own TAPs by screenshotting it and then trying to work out why/when it had gone up or down. You couldn't easily see what matches you had earned TAPs for, you just had a running total.
horshambees
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Of course it is.
Logistical challenge is another.
If it was just me then i have no worries and off i go,but i have introduced the missus to football and my youngest is well invested.
And i have a son who is going one minute and not the next,but he has a current issue.
I have worked so hard to get their TAPs up to the level they are at so they can attend games and if the TAPs reduction is aimed at getting them to more games then do not reduce theirs.
The problem is they need a parent to take them so you cannot reduce the parent too much.
An idea though.
A family combined TAPs group.
Has to be family ie Mum,dad,kids not friends and family.
Just to muddy the murky waters of the River TAP.
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? indeed!
no gays and no Mohammeds allowed so far ? ?
Next they may come for the fatties
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AB
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AB
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You’ll set off a diversion of this thread into debating why they don’t sell chips like they did at GP.
horshambees
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Griffingreen
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I'd speculate @horhambees might have meant eg rather than ie?
Five-year rolling TAPs model??
This thread just cemented my suspicions I wouldn't get Bournmouth away tickets. I haven't tried for them before and I forgot their stadium was quite so small tbh, thought it was similar to ours.
Five-year rolling TAPs model??
Can a fan see their rolling 5 year TAPS amount and their Lifetime TAPS? Maybe when we play Real Madrid in a European Cup final if there are many fans at a rolling TAPS cut-off we can use Lifetime TAPS to decide who gets the opportunity to buy a ticket
Five-year rolling TAPs model??
or maybe we could have another criteria, such as how many burgers you can eat in a day.
AB
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At pretty much every ground a CL final would be played at we could guarantee a ticket to all STs and members regardless of TAPs. Ditto any domestic game at Wembley. I think had we got to the ECL final last season at a ground in Athens with a 32k capacity we’d have done well to have sold out our allocation as I’m not completely convinced we have over 10k fans who could at fairly short notice shell out over a grand each to attend even that big a game. Happy to be corrected next year if we have long term fans who still come missing out on one of 20k tickets to the ECL Final in Leipzig because of the loss of pre-21-22 TAPs.
Truth_hurts
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I’m sure a lot would be keen but the actual demand is highly likely to be suppressed sufficiently by the non-ticket costs of travelling. Almost certainly by enough to mean that any long term fan who still comes regularly to away games can get a ticket. We have a little over 30k STs and Members. For good reason we hold the club’s feet to the fire to keep Gtech tickets affordable. I’m somewhat sceptical that a fanbase who’d be rightly outraged and in many cases completely priced out by us pricing like Fulham’s new stand would also go “a grand for tickets, travel and accommodation for a Conference League group stage game, yeah, all 30k are well up for that!”
JCMcBee
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....you won't be missing much mate....I assume it's still the same as it was all those years ago in leagues 1 and 2.... probably a sanitised version mind....no running battles expected in the park outside the ground in 2025....the games gone.
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Football is expensive and so are rents and mortgages. I expect some of Cliff’s friends will even tell us that school fees are high too. But, the point is that if anybody is suffering any short term financial challenges their ability to acquire TAP’s may be reduced. Irrespective of previous away grounds visited and TAP’s aquired over the years a change to the current TAP system would disadvantage anybody who was experiencing a short term financial hardship.
kaebess
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Well i might as well hand my ticket back now.
Just to clarify, I am of Black American heritage, mixed with Chinese, 1.56 meters tall at a 150 kilo's, that has the pleasure of, yet to decide.
Oh well it was nice knowing you all.
AB
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This would also have been true pre-2021. A lot refused to go to spend £47 to watch us at Sheff W because they couldn’t afford it.
nick logan
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Last year was brilliant , great turn out in the sun in the Aruba beach bar !....you won't be missing much mate....I assume it's still the same as it was all those years ago in leagues 1 and 2.... probably a sanitised version mind....no running battles expected in the park outside the ground in 2025....the games gone.
kaebess
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On a serious note.
I think Kurt, sorry Varney, will live or die by this.
There have been issue raised in here that have affected small groups of people out of the 15,000 plus that turn up most weeks. Got support but people get on with their lives.
But this will affect all. You will not keep all the people happy but I just hope he, you guys that work so hard for us all, have got it right. I hope that the club has listened.
I think Kurt, sorry Varney, will live or die by this.
There have been issue raised in here that have affected small groups of people out of the 15,000 plus that turn up most weeks. Got support but people get on with their lives.
But this will affect all. You will not keep all the people happy but I just hope he, you guys that work so hard for us all, have got it right. I hope that the club has listened.
Wise old Bee
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Only if you have ginger hair. Fwiw my DNA on Ancestry.com is 53 % Welsh, 40% English, 5% Scandinavian, and 2% Bengali. Life's rich tapestry and all that.
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That’s also true but not sure that provides a reason for wiping those points from fans who did attend? Economic situations change in people’s lives and the great thing about the current system is they are acquired over a lifetime of being a bees fan not just the past five years ability of somebody to watch the bees.
It would be wonderful if any changes made to the system could include some kind of reflection for previous bees support?
rebus
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Truth_hurts
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What’s one of those?
Sounds horribly American to me.
jlove
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There’s a lot of us who gained TAP’s attending play-offs!
'Ayes B
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Is this the first time that confidential discussions between the club and the supporters groups has been leaked on the GPG?
AB
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The existence of the discussions was not confidential and I’ve not shared anything disclosed to BIAS in confidence.
'Ayes B
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If there was any “leak” then it was on the clubs website
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I got to the PO semi and final and was a strong advocate of no TAPs being offered for those games. it was common f***ing sense!!!
unBEEliveable
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Have you talked to the TO about this?
I have had the same issue but since talking to someone in the TO have not had any further issues in terms of not sending out a single U18 ticket with no accompanying adult one.
They now send out the tickets all together too instead of two different envelopes.
horshambees
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I have on numerous occassions and the last one was Tottenham when i rang the club up as his tranche went on sale and i managed to find 4 together after buying 2 in the first tranche.
They are very accomodating when they can.
Palace away last season they said no and offered me 3 tickets at the back when i had 2 near the front.
I had to cancel his ticket and get a refund.
And on the day ?
Spaces everywhere down the front.
I much prefer "all season ticket holder sales" if i am honest and i get the tickets in one go.
I accept tranches and go through them and i got him a ticket for WHU with his mum in row 2 so he can actually see the game.(he is nearly 4' 10 now so getting there).
Arsenal will be a mission,but we will see.
Palace this season was 3 different transactions as they cocked up the U/18 sales because someone put U/17s and so i ended up with 4 tickets in 3 different areas.
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The foreunner, loyalty points, which are included in the current TAPs totals, launched in August 2013 I believe.
You can read a bit about its launch here
and the GPG reaction
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Anymore news on this??.............. Should I be re-newing my BIAS Membership or be waiting for the club's 'official' scheme to come out or both??........ How will 'The Charter' work this season??............ :confused: Thanks............
rebus
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Five-year rolling TAPs model??
There’s a post from me in 2015 writing about club shop purchases: “You cannot gain points by buying online at present - it is available to personal callers only.”The foreunner, loyalty points, which are included in the current TAPs totals, launched in August 2013 I believe.
You can read a bit about its launch here
and the GPG reaction
BFC Membership Scheme
Anymore news on this??.............. Should I be re-newing my BIAS Membership or be waiting for the club's 'official' scheme to come out or both??........ How will 'The Charter' work this season??............ :confused: Thanks............griffinpark.org
Shambles really. As @hobbsy mentioned, the pre ticketmaster data is terrible.
Wise old Bee
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I agree with this. I have been fortunate that in the period since TAPs were introduced I have attended a whole lot more games than I did, say, in the 80s and 90s when I worked away from home and often travelled at weekends. I also worked until late at night when in my normal London office. Of course, during that time, it was a case of paying on the gate, home and away. I face the prospect of attending far fewer aways in the future so expect to drop down the TAPs rankings over time. It is hard to devise a fair system to reflect, for example, years away at university or the commitment of a young family or, indeed, personal finance.
hobbsy
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Well, yes, SecuTix was bad but the in-house one before that was even worse - was that TeamCard ?
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I mean, I have been to Hartlepool 400+ times, will Mo have time to stick around for a chat after dropping it off or does he have to rush for his next job.
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